July 2007 Mac Pro

Currently I have the ATI RadeonX1900 card installed and I see that Snow Leopard needs a better card to support the new graphics features. The cards that you need all seem to be for 2008 & 2009 Mac Pros. Is there an alternative for the July 2007 Quad core Intel Xenon model and if not, will my old card still work?

You current card will continue to work (if you clean out the dust often enough) but won't support OpenCL. The ATI Radeon HD 4870
<http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB999ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&mco=NDE4NDMxOA>
is listed as supporting OpenCL, and despite what Apple says, does work in all Mac Pros with Leopard. There is the possibility, though, that it might not work in an old Mac Pro with Snow Leopard, or might work but not support OpenCL. There should be some reports about that in the next few weeks.

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I recently purchased a 2007 Mac Pro for a song, swapped the CPU's for octo chipsets and proceeded to wait for new Hdd's in the mail. I was told the Hard drives in my old G5 would not be bootable unless they're in Guid format. Disc Utility confirmed to use the specific maps as well and yet all of my 2006 PPC Power Mac G5 Hard drives boot in my MP without a hitch, although a few none universal apps do not work. So what am I missing, does it really matter which Apple partion map to choose from or is this a fluke?...

all of my 2006 PPC Power Mac G5 Hard drives boot in my MP without a hitch
Yes, and what version of Mac OS are they booting?
>> They will boot the OS that is on them, but not a later one.

I have a 2007 Mac Pro running 10.7.5 and I want to replace a drive and install Lion

I have a 2007 Mac Pro running 10.7.5 with dual core intel 2.66 with 13 GB ram. I want to replace my startup disk 250GB (which has all my apps) but has been lagging ( I thinks it's an original drive) with the new HD in bay 2 (4 T drive) which I installed this week. I tried to install lion onto it and it said I needed a newer version 10.7.3-I have time machine as my backup on an external. All the bays are full and I'd like to trade them out sooner or later to get more room for movies, etc. The last OSX disk I have is Snow Leopard and that was rejected as not new enough. Can someone help me with info on installing Lion on the new drive. I know how to make it the startup disk after, but I can't seem to load 10.6, 10.7 or 10.8 (not supported on my older mac pro.) Thanks,
ANNE Z

Firstly, time to get rid of the 2 x 512MB FBDIMMs in there, they add more heat and use more watts then they add to the system. If you need more, and 4 or 8 DIMMs is ideal, Amazon has 2x2GB sets $22 - about 1/50th what I paid for 1GB new.
Buy a 250GB Samsung EVO SSD $129
Pick up Carbon Copy Cloner http://www.bombich.com to clone the system to the SSD
A sled adapter for the SSD from Icy Dock $14 Amazon.com
7-8 years overdue for new system drive! amazed it lasted this long. An SSD plus some WD Black 2TB drives or larger should do the trick.
you can also put the SSD in the lower optical drive bay and use one of the two ODD "spare" SATA ports for the SSD - an SSD is the best way to improve the performance of our old Mac Pro 2006-7 models.
When you downloaded the Lion installer that was when to create a flash type installer with Lion DiskMaker.
If you have put in a new-ish graphic card then OS X 10.6.0 may not support it.

My 2007 mac pro has a slow internet connection with lion

Hi:
I've been dealing with a severely slow internet connection with my 2007 mac pro - dual quad core. I have os 10.7.3. I use wifi.
Typically, I'll experience difficulty loading websites completely. Certain sites have a 90% failure rate to load most elements. Other sites operate quickly from time to time. Often, a site will simply fail to load at all. My cable company cannot find anything wrong with my connection and other, newer devices don't have a problem loading sites. It seems the issue is most likely related to my computer.
Interestingly, I can usually "jump-start" the connection by turning my wifi connection off and on and this will (temporarily) allow me to get an image or video to download.
Any ideas?
Thank you for your time.

Hi:
I've been dealing with a severely slow internet connection with my 2007 mac pro - dual quad core. I have os 10.7.3. I use wifi.
Typically, I'll experience difficulty loading websites completely. Certain sites have a 90% failure rate to load most elements. Other sites operate quickly from time to time. Often, a site will simply fail to load at all. My cable company cannot find anything wrong with my connection and other, newer devices don't have a problem loading sites. It seems the issue is most likely related to my computer.
Interestingly, I can usually "jump-start" the connection by turning my wifi connection off and on and this will (temporarily) allow me to get an image or video to download.
Any ideas?
Thank you for your time.

A late 2007 Mac Pro (2,1) no longer boots into 64-bit Snow Leopard

In Snow Leopard 10.6.7, my late 2007 Mac Pro (2,1/3.0 GHz/Dual Quad-Core Intel Xeon) no longer seems to be booting into 64-bit mode. I've tried holding down the 6 and 4 keys during startup and even used a Terminal sudo command to force the machine to always boot into 64-bit mode. No matter what I try, an About This Mac>More Info>Software check only reports the following:
     64-bit Kernel and Extensions: No
Before I upgraded from Leopard 10.5 to Snow Leopard 10.6, I carefully researched this, and this Mac Pro model specifically was listed by Apple as being capable of 64-bit booting — meaning that it would utilize at least some extra memory. At the time, under OS 10.5 and early versions of 10.6, when I used this Terminal command...
     ioreg -l -p IODeviceTree | grep firmware-abi
...my Mac Pro 2,1 returned this response:
     "firmware-abi" = <"EFI64">
As a result of my tests and research, I upgraded the installed SDRAM from 4MB to the theoretical maximum Apple indicated this model could support (16MB) so that Adobe Photoshop 12 (CS 5) would fully utilize extra installed memory under Snow Leopard. While using the first versions of 10.6 Snow Leopard, the machine worked fine in 64-bit mode. Now, in the wake of the 10.6.6 or the 10.6.7 update (I didn't notice which), I find that this model no longer even reports itself as being 64-bit capable, though it once did.
Now, the aforementioned Terminal query returns this response:
      "firmware-abi" = <"EFI32">
Also, the Library>Preferences folder does even not contain a file called "com.apple.boot.plist," which some owners have reported editing to force 64-bit booting.
The thing is, I spent a fair amount of money upgrading this machine to the maximum amount of SDRAM supported. I purchased it because it was advertised as being 64-bit capable and I upgraded it because Apple originally reported it as being a 64-bit model. Now, I'm not sure if the extra memory I added is being fully utilized, though Photoshop does report seeing 15547MB of available memory.
Have any other owners of these second-generation Intel Mac Pro's encountered this? Does anyone know what's going on? Am I doing something wrong when checking for the 64-bit installation or architecture? Is Snow Leopard 10.6.7 mis-reporting the architecture for this model? Or did Apple silently withdraw 64-bit support for this machine in a recent OS update?

Hatter: Thanks for the feedback and links. Well, as described in one of the threads you linked to, the document below reinforces your assertion that only Mac Pro's 3,1 or later (early 2008) support 64-bit booting in Snow Leopard:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3770
However, if you asked me in court, I would swear on a stack of Bibles that sometime in the past, I read an Apple document indicating that the Mac Pro 2,1 supported 64-bit booting and I really thought I recalled booting this particular machine into 64-bit mode under early versions of Snow Leopard.
I guess I'm mistaken. Certainly, this issue can be confusing. When I read them out loud to myself, even perfectly-written, accurate explanations on the subject can sound like a circular, non-sensical George Bush rationalization being delivered by comic Will Ferrell. I must not be correctly recalling the details of booting into 64-bit mode with this machine. And I guess that since Photoshop has its own memory management scheme, and I only have 16 gigabytes of SDRAM installed anyway, it doesn't matter that much. Furthermore, in one of your links, Jason Snell of Macworld writes:
"...If you’re running a Mac powered by an Intel Core 2 Duo processor or an Intel Xeon processor, your Mac is 64-bit capable. And Snow Leopard runs 64-bit-capable applications in 64-bit mode regardless of whether it’s booting into a 64-bit or 32-bit kernel. In fact, the only big advantage of booting into a 64-bit kernel would be the ability to use more than 32 gigabytes of RAM..."

What is a good replacement for the ATI Radeon X1900 XT on a late 2007 Mac Pro

I recently took my late 2007 Mac Pro to the Apple Store because it was running quite loud. They diagnosed the problem as the fan on the ATI Radeon x1900 XT video card. Whie the card works fine otherwise, I was thinking of replacing it. I noticed some online recommendations that I need to upgrade to perhaps the Radeo HD 4870 if I want to install FCP X on this machine. I do use the Mac Pro for video editing, but haven't switched yet to FCP X. Anyone have a suggestion on a replcement video card that will work both on this machine and will be compatible with FCP X.
Thanks for any advice.

<http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC742ZM/A/ati-radeon-hd-5770-graphics-upgrade- kit-for-mac-pro-(mid-2010)>

2007 Mac Pro (10.6.8) cannot upgrade to Yosemite?

Hi everyone. first time posting. I've just tried to upgrade my Late 2007 Mac Pro desktop to Yosemite (from Snow Leopard 10.6.8) and got this message:
"This version of OS X 10.10 cannot be installed on this computer."
I dug a bit deeper.... and found this:
To install Mavericks, you need one of these Macs:
iMac (Mid-2007 or later)
MacBook (13-inch Aluminum, Late 2008), (13-inch, Early 2009 or later)
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid-2009 or later),
MacBook Pro (15-inch or 17-inch, Mid/Late 2007 or later)
MacBook Air (Late 2008 or later)
Mac mini (Early 2009 or later)
Mac Pro (Early 2008 or later)
Xserve (Early 2009)
So, my question is then how can I upgrade the OS to a late 2007 make and model of Mac Pro? Is there a middle step to upgrade like there was with snow leopard? A quick google search did not turn up much. I've got enough RAM, HDD space, etc. This is the only sticking point.
Is this year model stuck with snow leopard?
Any help would be much appreciated.
thanks
clane

You have a Mac Pro 2,1 model which cannot run anything above Lion 10.7.5. You don't have a MP Early 2008 model.
Upgrading to Yosemite
You can upgrade to Yosemite from Lion or directly from Snow Leopard. Yosemite can be downloaded from the Mac App Store for FREE.
Upgrading to Yosemite
To upgrade to Yosemite you must have Snow Leopard 10.6.8 or Lion installed. Download Yosemite from the App Store. Sign in using your Apple ID. Yosemite is free. The file is quite large, over 5 GBs, so allow some time to download. It would be preferable to use Ethernet because it is nearly four times faster than wireless.
    OS X Mavericks/Yosemite- System Requirements
    Macs that can be upgraded to OS X Yosemite
         1. iMac (Mid 2007 or newer) - Model Identifier 7,1 or later
         2. MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer) - Model Identifier 5,1 or later
         3. MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer) - Model Identifier 3,1 or later
         4. MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer) - Model Identifier 2,1 or later
         5. Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer) - Model Identifier 3,1 or later
         6. Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer) - Model Identifier 3,1 or later
         7. Xserve (Early 2009) - Model Identifier 3,1 or later
To find the model identifier open System Profiler in the Utilities folder. It's displayed in the panel on the right.
     Are my applications compatible?
         See App Compatibility Table - RoaringApps.
Upgrading to Lion
If your computer does not meet the requirements to install Mavericks, it may still meet the requirements to install Lion.
You can purchase Lion at the Online Apple Store. The cost is $19.99 (as it was before) plus tax. It's a download. You will get an email containing a redemption code that you then use at the Mac App Store to download Lion. Save a copy of that installer to your Downloads folder because the installer deletes itself at the end of the installation.
     Lion System Requirements
       1. Mac computer with an Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7,
           or Xeon processor
       2. 2GB of memory
       3. OS X v10.6.6 or later (v10.6.8 recommended)
       4. 7GB of available space
       5. Some features require an Apple ID; terms apply.

2007 Mac Pro dead

My 2007 Mac pro running leopard will not boot up the light turns on, you hear the chime but when the apple apears and the flower thing starts to spin a different noise comes from the machine.
Then the cheeky thing shuts itself down. I have tried command, option, P, R. I have tried to start up from disc but the same thing happens every time. I need help fast as my finals at uni are due in and there on the f'in thing.

If it won't start from the original DVD/CD disk you're most likely going to have to take it in for repair. Before you do that, unplug anything non-apple and remove any memory, cards or other non-apple hardware. Unplug everything. All cords including power and all other cords and let it sit for a minute. Plug back in the necessary keyboard and mouse and power (nothing else) and try to start it. If it fails try the DVD/CD. If that fails you will have to take it in locally or send it to Apple. If the DVD works, run Disk Repair and run the hardware test (restart with D key held down if I recall correctly).

What internal hard drive should I get for a 2007 Mac Pro?

Hello, I have a 2007 Mac Pro in which I would like to install two additional internal hard drives. I want to use one to run Time Machine and I want to use the other as an archive for my photos. What is the best internal hard drive to get for these purposes? Thanks for any help.

System:
SSD: Samsung 840 128GB
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Series-120GB-internal-MZ-7TD120BW/dp/B009NHAF06/
Icy Dock $15
http://www.amazon.com/2-5-3-5-Ssd-sata-Convert/dp/B002Z2QDNE/
Sonnet Tempo Pro
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempossdpro.html
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet%20Technologies/TSATA6SSDE/
WD Black 1TB $85
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WD 3TB $225
Western Digital 3TB WD Black SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Desktop Hard Drive WD3001FAEX
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LED monitor and a 2007 mac pro compatibility

My mac monitor is busted, I need to get a new one, though this time it won't be an apple one. I have a 2007 mac pro, what I need to know is a LED monitor compatible with my mac pro.
For instance, this one,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005MHMFJA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid =A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
I need a monitor with lots of USB ports though am not sure about compatibilit, when it comes to LED.
Thanks

That one will work. You will need a DVI cable.

Is FCPX usable with late 2007 Mac Pro's with ATI HD3870 (or OEM graphics cards?

I have a late 2007 Mac Pro with an ATI Radeon HD3870 Mac&PC (3870 ROHS 512mB) graphics card. This card is wupposed to be OpenCL hardware capable. Will it work with FCPX? I'm not aware of any current enhanced graphics cards that will work with that vintage MacPro. I'm currently using FCP7, but has anyone tried this system with FCPX?

nfoo wrote:
According to Apple it is compatible.
Just go ahead and try to buy it: the App Store will detect if your card is compatible and will refuse to let you buy FCPX if it isn't. So there's no risk.
If you want to upgrade your gfx card, the Ati 5770 and 5870 are both compatible with all Mac Pro Models.
Apple says no. The Store says mid 2010 for 5770.
I just got confirmation from someone on the LAFCPUG forum that they have MacPro 1.1 (2006) with 5770 installed and they were able to purchase FCPX.

Selling a 2007 Mac Pro

I'm getting ready to sell my 2007 Mac Pro. I've researched the process of cleaning the disk and came across a posting that included a link to a Safe Mac article entitled "How to prepare your Mac for sale" which recommends using the original install discs to clean the hard drive and then reinstall. In my case this would mean installing OS 10.4. The system is currently running 10.7.5 and I have been unable to install additional upgrades because of the machine's age. Will the buyer be able to upgrade to this system?
Thanks.
Alice

Lion is the highest OS but that is still supported and you can do a lot of "Upgrades" to improve performance.
If you have upgraded the graphics it may not work with OEM 10.4.6 build it shipped with.
If you had bought 10.5.x or more likely have the retail 10.6.x DVD (or buy a copy, or have them) that would be much better. Incl. t he OEM DVDs but don't install... it isn't wise or supported if it is connected to t he net.
And what will you use?
With yes some $$ you can put a nicer gpu in there, an SSD system drive does wonders, and FBDIMMs are outright steal now @ $25 for 4GB (2x2). As for ML, do you need it? and Mavericks may not be ready for everyone, still too early in its release.

Quadro for 2007 Mac Pro

Good night
I have two separate questions regarding expanding my 2007 Mac Pro.
The specs for this machine are:
8 core 3Ghz Xeon
5GB DDR-2 FB DIMM
ATI Radeon X1900
As you might be aware I am unable to install 64bit windows on this machine due to compatibility issues with my hardware. However due to the nature of my job ( 3D artist ) I really need to run it and would be interested in any advice on which specific hardware I could replace that would allow me to run it on this machine.
Also, I am interested in buying a Quadro graphics card. Can anyone tell me are compatible with my Mac Pro?
Cheers,
Carlos

Thanks hatter
I did take a look at welovemacs; I just thought that paying 2000 dollars for a graphics card that is 2 years old and isn't even sold by nvidia anymore is quite steep.
The hd 4870 looks good from tech specs - however I disregard bench mark tests that use gaming apps ( I don't use games in my workstation ) and no mention of 3D app performance. Besides I am only looking for grahics cards certified for DCC.
Buying a 2009 Mac pro is out of the question for me - I haven´t even finished paying the thousands of pounds I sank into this workstation. I am not in a hurry to buy another one, especially one that again doesn't even feature a Quadro graphics card in its current offering.
My intention is to make this usable for heavy duty 3D work in a shared OSX/Windows environment, preferably one that runs 64 bit windows ( my mac just refuses to boot the Vista OS I bought - any solutions welcome ).
From my standpoint, it looks as if Apple stopped bundling certified powerful graphics cards, the ones that are used in serious heavy duty production work ( I work mainly in commercials and primarily use PC's at work - they ALL run Quadros ).
It also looks as if Apple left me out to dry, having sank thousands of pounds in their system, I am unable to use 64 bit windows ( again standard issue in most commercials studios - unless running Linux ), and unable to pack serious heat ( graphics-wise ), even if I do want to run my apps in OSX.
Stuck between a rock and a hard place...
PS: don't get me wrong I love OSX, and would prefer to run everything here. Alas, the demands of my job seem to outpace the hardware that I have available to expand my Mac Pro...

Can I use Thunderbolt Display with 2007 Mac Pro?

I dropped my 30" Cinema Display and it's totaled.
I have a number of newer systems with Thunderbolt Displays.
Can I get a video card? to put in my 2007 Mac Pro Quad Core that will allow me to use the Thunderbolt display? If not, what should I do short of finding a replacement 30" Cinema Display?
Thank you!

Shoot. I was afraid of that. Have you ever done anything so stupid!!!?
Thanks so much for the response. I'll try to dig another up. An expensive klutz move.

November 2007 Mac Pro with NVIDIA Quadro 5600 Win only

Hi,
so I have a NVIDIA quadro 5600 graphics card (PNY model) from another machine and want to use it with my late 2007 Mac Pro since my ATI XT1900 is slowly dying, has some temperature issues.
I am only gonna use this machine for Windows and I am aware that the card won't work in MAC OS but I thought it should work just fine otherwise.
So I installed the card and connected a second PCI Express 6 pin power cable (in addition to the one that was there from my ATI card) from the mainboard (so from the unoccupied 6-pin connector next to the other one) to the card.
When I was switching on the machine, a buzzer sounds and apparently it means not enough power:
http://www3.pny.com/QuadroPDFs/5600PowerRequirements.pdf
so I thought there is something wrong with the mainboard 6-pin power connectors and used a molex y-adapter to directly connect the card to the power supply but with the same effect.
Next thing I tried to connect an external 200W power supply directly to the card, guessing that the MAC's power supply won't be enough (which it should...think 900W?) but still getting the buzzer sound.
Anyone tried this setup before or has some hints to how to resolve this issue?
If not, I guess I have to sell the card and look for an alternative - which card would be compatible for Windows use in my MAC Pro?
thank you all in advance,
Johannes Kohnle

I would concur, XP/Vista firmware reads two versions and most PC graphic cards have two versions embedded.
So hopefully with Mac's technical experience they should be able to do what Microsoft have been doing for years.
This is a well covered subject, we are all expecting something soon. Mr jobs told us so.
The reality is I guess, do Apple want to do it?
History dictates that they are not exactly ones for making Mac's upgradeable.
I too and I expect many others will seriously consider whether to upgrading again if the 8800GT for the Mac Pro 2006 /7 never materialises, mind you we could always place a pillow on it and use it as a seat.

July 2007 Mac Pro

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