Jump Character Style in FM Showing up Wonky In RH

Using TCS 2.0 (RH8 and FM 9). Linked project, the Jump character style in FM (sets a hyperlink), when generated in RH is including extended text. So for example [mylink is showing up like this] instead of like [this] (brackets used instead of underline since I can't get that to work). It seems to be random how much extended text RH decides to link. I'm inclined to think this is a bug and wondering if anyone has experienced this problem and if there is a workaround other than post processing in RH to fix it.
What I have done is just remove the jump from my FM docs and have the URL spelled out. Though it would be nice to get the jump style to show up correctly. There does not appear to be an alternate style I can map it to in RH to hyperlink.
Thanks,

Further to my original post, further info as follows:
Platform: Windows XP, SP2 both PCs that this happens on are fully functional for Graphics we run CS3 Master Suite, Corel, Quark, etc.
Weve applied the patches, through the Adobe Updater (the download link doesnt work) version is 8.0p273
We used the File - Save As PDF option saving as either a High Quality or X1a PDF (but weve tried all types, to rectify the problem it persists with all options).
Thanks again for any help!

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Kelly Vaughn wrote:
I have created a NOTE: format. I used a numbering format to create it, as follows in the Bullets and Number section of the paragraph styles dialog box:
List Type: Numbers
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The underline does not show up when the character style is used from within the Bullets and Numbering section of the paragraph style. I can apply the character style to plain old text and t will work fine. But that portion of the character style will not show up when it is referenced from the Bullets and Numbering screen. Interestingly enough, strikethrough has the same problem. The rest of the attributes of my character style (font, color, etc) work fine. But the underline won't apply.
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I believe this is a known bug; underlines don't work in this situation, though other text attributes, like bold, color, italic, do.
Search this forum and Google for terms like underline indesign autonumbered paragraph style to see some past discussions on this topic.
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But it is happening the same as you suggest in your screengrab.
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Using two character tags in-line together (a la <hyperlink><Code>) is asking for trouble. IIRC, FM doesn't re-apply these in order on an update and depending upon how they are defined (and what is set to AsIs), the outer one usually wins. .
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