Jumpy AVCHD rendering in After Effects CS4

Hey Everyone,
i am working with ACVHD footage which can easily be edited in ae and premiere cs4 on my computer. But since
have rendered out my material (I have tried, mov, avi, flv, and whatnot) it runs fluently but is now and again
jumpy when played. Its like a few frames are repeated sometimes.
What is the trick to achieve a good result, what is the best output format? Can anyone please help?
Thank you in advanced!
Best,
Alex

Hi there,
( Wow! An actual Adobe employee in this forum... ;-) )
I am experiencing what I would think to be AVCHD decoding problems in Premiere Pro CS4 as well and am wondering, if this might be the same problem as in After Effects.
I have observed the following effects:
- Sometimes during editing in Premiere a single frame will simply be the wrong one. This error is then persistent and can be reproduced until some internal buffers get rerendered and the problem may vanish, for instance, after I render an effect or dissolve in a different part of the timeline... until it happens again at a totally different location.
- When I render the video out (export in Adobe Media Encoder or playback to my "old" Sony HDV cam via firewire) in different formats (I prefer Blu-Ray MPEG2 because it is faster for Full HD material than a AVCHD render), the problem appears in the resulting video as well about every few minutes or so (Frames jump back and forth or sometimes a single wrong frame is displayed). The problem shows up at random locations and no two renderings have the same problems at the same locations.
During editing I was ok with that behaviour and could even live with the non-realtime previews. Hey, I am a programmer myself and know, that bug-free software is not possible to make.
But I was expecting, that at least the final rendered video sequence would be ok. Well, this is obviously not the case and renders (pun intended) the whole result of the video project unusable.
I concur, that there seems to be a problem in the AVCHD decoder used to get the frames that need to be rendered (I assume that this is somehow a part of the ImportProcessServer, which uses gigs of memory on a project with something like 1400 video clips. I do not think, though, that this points to a problem in the AVCHD data stream or is even connected to Panasonic cameras. I am shooting with a Sony HDR XR-520.
My System:
Core i7 950 QuadCore @ 3.2 GHz
NVidia Geforce GTX 275
Windows 7 64bit (performance index 5,9 due to hard disk, everything else 7,3 - 7,5)
12 GB RAM
4 TB Hard Disk space
Adobe CS4 Master Collection
I have been a fan of Adobe software for years and am also using After Effects.
Under these circumstances, I will have to rethink upgrading to CS5, though. Based on previous support and update experiences I do not dare hope to see a fix for this severe bug in an upcoming CS4 patch!?
Regards,
Gunnar

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