Junk mail/sent mail

Everything I send in Mail is always labeled junk. In other words, when I look at my sent mail folder, everything is labeled junk! Each of my email accounts/addresses is in my own address book, so why does it keep labelling myself as a junk sender? I haven't created any rules for junk, and use the default settings, and nothing I do seems to fix this problem! Help please!

Greetings All:
I'm experiencing the same problem: "sent" messages being marked as "junk."
Details that might be helpful:
- Mail 2.0.5, OS 10.4.4, on a Mac mini that came with Tiger
(rules out "legacy" mbox problem I've seen mentioned in other threads)
- I'm using default Junk Filter settings, no additional rules
- Sent messages are marked as Junk immediately on being sent
(perhaps rules out server issues?)
- Problem started just this morning, after months of trouble-free operation
(perhaps suggests sudden corruption of a back-end file?)
- It occurs in Automatic mode and Training mode.
- After I've unmarked a "sent-junk" message, Mail re-marks it as Junk.
- If the above occurs in Training mode, color remains brown after unmarking.
- I'm running three POP accounts -- the problem occurs on all three.
As Ernie suggested, I checked my library files -- everything is as he suggested it should be (in this and other threads).
In the folders for each of the three POP accounts, I noticed something: there's a file called "MessageUidsAlreadyDownloaded," last updated months ago, and another file called "MessageUidsAlreadyDownloaded2," last updated today. Normal perhaps, but thought I'd mention it here, in case it's not.
As a side note, the junk filter itself still seems to be learning. (I reset my Apple password, and the first message I received was marked Junk; I unmarked it. A second msg confirming the change came minutes later, and it was correctly identified as non-junk.)
I've noticed many other Apple Support Forum threads on this problem, going back several years. This suggests it's not something specific to my configuration, or even my Mail/OS version. I'm glad to see some much-needed attention being given to this problem.
If you need any more details, let me know.
Richard

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I tried the following:
1. Click Mail
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4. Click the Advanced tab
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Thanks for all of your responses.
I redid everything you guys mentioned and at one point I got a message that it wasn't reaching the server. The option to "resolve to server" came up (which wasn't the default option) and I clicked it for the heck of it. Sure enough, it fixed the connection. Again, what was odd was that the deault was "try again".
It's working fine now, but since I don't know what caused the disconnect in the first place, I'm hoping the connection doesn't break again, I accept a meeting, and it doesn't get added to iCal. You'd think there'd be a redundancy for .ics files where it would say:
You have responded to an invite. Would you like to add to iCal?
[Yes] [No]
[ ] Never ask me again
Or it would there would be an option in Mail that says "Display Calendar invites as [] Attachment [] Email."
I know the preferences should take care of this, but meetings and appointments are important enough for this type of anal retentiveness.
Thanks again fo rall your help.

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Hi
I've found that usually I need to use Mail-Mailbox-Rebuild to get messages that have been added via Finder to show up in Mail.
You can get messages/folders from a saved copy of the Mail folder by using Mail-File-Import Mailboxes; choose 'Mail for Mac OSX' then point the importer to the copy of your Mail folder. You should get a list of all the mailboxes/folders & can choose which ones you want to import. They'll show up under 'imported....' in Mail & the messages can then be moved to other folders/mailboxes as you wish.
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Paul,
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I just switched from my entourage email to mac's mail, and I noticed some problems that I cannot seem to figure out. I amm using IMAP based email, and had none of these problems on entourage, but I like the format of mail better, so i hope to get this resolved so I can keep using mail.
1. Trash- When I delete an email it does not go to the trash folder like it did in entourage, but rather just disappears and I cannot find it anywhere. This is regardless of if I try and store it on the server or not. Either way, the deleted messages disappear.
2. Sent mail- I may know why this is not working, at least I have heard a possible explanation. When I send an email, it will not go to the default sent-mail folder on my IMAP server, and so disappears unless I tell mail not to store them on the server (but there are obvious disadvantages to not having the mail stored on the server). I think this has to do with the fact that the sent mail folder on my IMAP client has to be set to sent-mail, while I hear Mail requires it to be just Sent.
3. Junk mail- When I mark messages as junk mail, the program does not move them to the junk mail folder, neither in mail nor on the IMAP server.
Now I have gone through as many of the options I can find to try and resolve this, but I have it all set up the same way I did in entourage, and cannot figure out why it is not working. Does it have to do with the naming of the folders for my IMAP service? Those seem to be default and unable to change. My Trash is labeled "trash", Sent mail is labeled "sent-mail", and junk mail is labeled "Junk".
I appreciate any help.

1. When not stored on the server, the account's Trash mailbox should be located under the Trash icon in the mailboxes drawer if "Move deleted messages to the Trash mailbox" is selected under the Mailbox Behaviors tab for the account preferences.
If you have this selected, using the Finder go to Home > Library > Mail > Mailboxes. Within the Mailboxes folder should be a folder named
Deleted Messages (name of your IMAP account in parenthesis).mbox
Confirm the folder includes the .mbox extension.
2. When you select "Store sent messages on the server", select your IMAP account's Sent mailbox under your IMAP account's icon in the mailboxes drawer which is sent-mail and at the menu bar, go to Mailbox > Use This Mailbox For and select Sent.
3. Do you have Junk Mail set to Automatic?

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Verify/repair the startup disk (not just permissions), as described here:
The Repair functions of Disk Utility: what's it all about?
After having fixed all the filesystem issues, if any, proceed as follows to thoroughly get rid of all the files used by the junk filter, so that Mail creates them anew:
1. If you have a .Mac account and .Mac synchronization of Mail data is enabled either in Mail > Preferences > General or in System Preferences > .Mac, disable it before proceeding.
2. Quit Mail if it’s running.
3. In the Finder, go to ~/Library/Mail/.
4. Locate LSMMap2 and move it to the Trash. This file stores information about what does and doesn’t constitute junk, and allows the junk filter to learn. Deleting this file is what Preferences > Junk Mail > Reset does. The file was called LSMMap in early versions of Mail; delete that as well if you see it.
5. Locate any MessageRules.plist (Mail 2.x) and/or MessageSorting.plist (Mail 1.x) files and move them to the Desktop. This is where Mail stores all the rules, including the rule that governs what the junk filter does.
6. Locate DefaultCounts and move it to the Trash. This file keeps statistics about the number of messages that have been marked as junk, either automatically by the junk filter or manually by the user.
7. Look for the account folders. The name of each account folder starts with the account type (POP, IMAP, Mac), followed by the account username and the incoming mail server. Open each of the account folders, locate the Junk.mbox or Junk.imapmbox folder within it, and move it to the Trash if present.
8. Go to ~/Library/Mail/Mailboxes/. Locate any Junk.mbox mailboxes there (their name may include the account name in parenthesis), and move them to the Trash.
Note: Steps 7 and 8 may be unnecessary. Also, messages in Junk mailboxes with an .mbox suffix are stored locally and will be lost forever as a result of doing steps 7 and 8. If there is a chance that you have legit messages there that you want to preserve, either try skipping those steps, or move the messages to another mailbox in Mail first, or move Junk.mbox to the Desktop (to be imported back later) instead of to the Trash. Junk mailboxes with an .imapmbox suffix aren’t a concern because they are stored on the server and Mail would rebuild them automatically.
9. Open Mail. As a result of removing the rules file, the junk filter will be disabled now. You may want to either shut down the Internet connection before opening Mail or take Mail offline immediately after opening it, to prevent Mail from downloading anything until the junk mail filter has been enabled again.
10. Go to Mail > Preferences > Junk Mail and enable the junk filter.
11. Go online again if you went offline in step 9.
12. If the problem is fixed now and .Mac synchronization of Mail data was enabled at the beginning, enable it again, go to System Preferences > .Mac > Advanced, click Reset Sync Data, and choose the appropriate options to reset the Mail data stored on the .Mac server with the data locally stored on the computer, i.e. sync data must flow from the computer to the .Mac server.
If the above solves the problem and you don’t have any rules you’d like to preserve or recreating them is not a daunting task, the files moved to the Desktop in step 5 can be deleted.
Note: For those not familiarized with the ~/ notation, it refers to the user’s home folder. That is, ~/Library is the Library folder within the user’s home folder, i.e. /Users/username/Library.

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Dear fellow Apple enthusiasts,
can anybody please tell me whats going on?
Since Mac OS 10.7 (i am now on 10.8.2) i have constantly expierenced loss of sent mails.
Just now again I sent out an email from one of my IMAP accounts which does not show up in my "sent" folder.
Many do, but some are just not there, allthough they are being recieved by the person i sent them to.
I am ittle bit clueless, any ideas?
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The following article segment doesn't apply to you directly, however, in it may be contained the solution to your problem...
http://www.macworld.com/article/1157846/mailgmail.html
Step 4: Fine-tune your Mail settings
Now that Gmail is all set, it’s time to tweak your Mail settings to be on their best behavior. Go to Mail -> Preferences, and select your Gmail account. Click on the Mailbox Behaviors tab and:
Enable Store Draft Messages On The Server if you want your drafts to be accessible in Gmail on the Web.
Make sure Store Sent Messages On The Server is checked, and that the Delete Sent Messages When popup menu is set to Never.
Enable Move Deleted Messages To The Trash Mailbox, but disable Store Deleted Messages On The Server. This is the other half of the feature we set up in step 3. Mail will create its own Trash folder that is stored locally on your Mac, but in Gmail on the Web, messages will be archived and searchable. Close the settings window and click Save to accept your changes.
Find your Gmail folders in Mail’s sidebar, unfurl the folder called [Gmail], and then select the Drafts subfolder. Then select Mailbox -> Use This Mailbox For -> Drafts.
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My 3Gs always did.
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IF you are talking about Exchange on Google with Gmail (ie chose exchange and using m.google.com) here is what I did to fix it.
Using your browser, sign into Gmail. IF, NEAR THE BOTTOM of your folder lists, you have a label(folder) on the left side called "Sent Items" then delete it (mine never had anything in it and i think it's for conversations.) BTW, I KNOW this is a Junk E-Mail (remember i already deleted my folder) but wanted to show you the drop down and Remove Label option.
Then go to your Settings -> Mail, Contacts, Calendars -> Exchange -> Mail Folders to Push -> and put a checkbox next to SENT (looks like a paper airplane)
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I am using IMAP yahoo account on apple mail. When I send a mail from apple mail it is saved here but not when I login into my yahoo account in the internet. Again all the sent mails are not saved in my apple mail...pls some 1 help!!

chetanmac wrote:
Yes when I select on 'Use this mailbox for' there are 4 options- drafts, sent, trash, junk...but all are disabled...I cannot click on any1
Then I don't think you are selecting the right mailboxes. While mine are Gmail, I would imagine you would have something similar for Yahoo:
With that Gmail "Drafts" folder selected, I can set it for use as the integrated "Drafts" folder for that Gmail account. If there is no folder down there for your Yahoo Sent, then it is another problem from what I described.

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I am using IMAP accounts from three different Macs (2 OSX6, 1 OSX8) , 1 iphone, 1 iPad
Unfortunately the use how to save sent messages on server is not overall consistent.
In addition to the "sent" folder I have also "sent items", "sent messages" which have been cretaed by mail client apps.
Where can I set up the Mail Apps that sent mails are not only saved on the server, but also always in the same "sent" folder?
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Urs

It's pretty easy to choose your Sent folder.
1. On the lefthand folders panel, select the folder that you want to use as your "Sent" folder.
2. With that folder selected, choose Mailbox from the top menu
3. Near the bottom of the dropdown menu, select "Use This Mailbox As"
4. Select "Sent Mailbox"
Voila! Now all your sent e-mails will be stored in the folder of your choosing. You can also change the behavior of other folders, such as Drafts, Junk, Trash, etc.

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After a certain date, using Mail application, the Date (sent) is not showing in the header along with To & From & Subject. Why?
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I've tried moving it to another folder. Doesn't work.
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Not sure about the time stamp problem, but the missing "Sent" mails problem is not uncommon. This problem is one that a lot of people have and in my opinion, I think it's a problem with Apple's mail application, nothing at the user's end.
Does this happen only when you include an attachment or does that matter? Also, does it only happen when your outgoing message is delayed a bit? Check your junk/spam folder to see if your sent messages went in there.
This doesn't fix anything, but you might change your e-mail settings so that all new mails are automatically sent Bcc to yourself.
Sometimes the "missing" sent mails are not going in the right folder. I'm sure you probably already know, but in the left-hand column in MAIL, under Mailboxes, there is a second "sent" folder way at the bottom, depending on your other e-mail accounts, such as Yahoo or Gmail). Many people have discovered their missing "sent" e-mails in those.
It is a big hassle, for sure, and has been officially reported. Users with complaints are being told that Apple's Intrusion Detection and Prevention (IDP) systems block the connection from a user's e-mail client when it attempts to store outgoing e-mails, which contain attachments, to the users' sent folder.
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