K7D master, Scsi raid cards, bios flashes and confusion

K7d master-l
Ram, crucial reg+ecc
psu more than enough, zippy/emacs
2*amd 2500+ pin moded to 2000mhz (will do 2.2ghz very stable, your pick fold for 2 mouths between reboots or prime? Longest prime run I allowed was 72 hours both CPUs.)
To cut to the chase when I install a fully functional Hp netraid-4m in an available 66/64 slot or any other for that matter the computer hangs at point "initializing hard drive controller".
The card caries on doing its self-test and then nothing. No beep no message just a blinking cursor -->  _  *<--blink*
First thing I tried was sans 3ware raid card but same problem.
The next thing I tried was graphics card and NetRaid only in multiple slots, same problem.
Thought "...well maybe a BIOS could solve the problem?"    I have done a few flashes before but not on this.
Downloaded two separate BIOS from main site and they both stop responding just after I agree to it reprogramming the bios chip.
Nothing is done when it hangs here. The computer is bootable. First time it hung I waited an hour each subsequent time 10 minutes.
Interestingly my bios does not appear to be in this list.-->   http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=73&kind=3
The date on my bios is 13/12/2002 (that’s dd/mm/yyyy) and is v6.00 ?? ???
I couldn’t find any option in the bios for write protect.
If I try: "4. Input "awfl823d w6501kms.xxx /sn/py/cc/cp/f", then press ENTER" nothing happens, computer crashes, ctrl+alt+del don’t reboot it, caps doest toggle.
Flashing done from a bootable dos cd and the bios and flash utill are stored on a fat16 hard drive partition. And have tried 5 times.
Any help with these two rather odd problems would really be appreciated.
Thanks
edit: my graphics card takes up 2 slots its a x800xtpe with a silencer. 256mb.
edit2: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=24059.0 <-- im hoping that its a bios ishue like this person had but with a different card.

Quote from: jefuk on 11-September-06, 18:52:30
thanks for the reply. I am not convinced by flashing in windows though so i used good old dos on the made for the purpose boot cd. I keep a fat16 partition for things like this too.
my steps were as follows
1 pull plug
2 clear cmos
3 plug in. "what why did u turn your self on?"
4 insert dos cd
5 flash "its working!"
6 reboot
7 panic "whys nothing happening?"
8 unplug, clear cmos etc "ITS ALIVE {insert manic laugh}"
now iv seen windows works ill shut down and test the card
I have used 191 I don’t know where you found that bios from its not on an msi server ether?  sorry to say i don’t trust much :( 
what benefits/bug fixes does it have?
Edit: Well the card is now detected it reports 6 disks attached each with a unique id and then it stops responding, wont let me into config. I’m figuring one disk could be at fault but my original problems are all resolved thanks to a bios update.   
little hard but nice you have finaly able to update it.
"what benefits/bug fixes does it have?"
Changes from 1.91(old) to 1.90(newest):
Added support for Athlon MP 2800+
Fix somethink about Vcore problem but cant translate it (Behebt Probleme mit der CPU Kernspannung (VCore).)
"I have used 191 I don’t know where you found that bios from its not on an msi server ether?  sorry to say i don’t trust much :( "
dont worry we are never give/suggest you somethink that gona do damage/unsure its work correctly or somethink like that, especially when we are talking about BIOS updates. im thinking always from other side(etc in this case from your side what will be best for you) BIOS is tested and proved himself in time, thats why i recommend him. MSI Global servers are not always up to date.
Here you can look from MSI official also but not global:
http://www.msicomputer.cz/soubor.php?produkt=MS-6501+(K7D+Master-L)&typ=%25
http://www.msi-computer.de/produkte/main_idx_view.php?Prod_id=191&Seite=BIOS
There is also newest beta version (2.01 which added support for Sempron CPUs) exist at German MSI, but i didnt recommend couse didnt tested and lag of info about it, you can test it also at own risk. Probably will work good also but personally cant gurantee for issues or anythink about it.(but that is my guess only and i dont work with gueses.)
"I’m figuring one disk could be at fault but my original problems are all resolved thanks to a bios update.   "
you are welcome mate

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    BIOS FASTRACK SX4000 1.02.0.5
    RAM Dimm 256Mb (test OK)
    this is my problem:
    1) the HD in master or slave the HD do not come recognized from the bios of the fastrack..HD not found..control cables ide or current
    2) cable select or removing jumper from the HD the these they come recognized, it allows to make the Array (tried raid 5, 0 and the 1) ago boot of the fastrack but at the moment of the boot from floppy or cd rom (as from bios of the mainboard) remains the underscore that flashes. The PC is not of an all out..con ctrl+alt+del reboot.
    3) tried to use also only 2 of aforesaid the HD, invert channel, user also channel 4, same problems
    4) it recognizes the HD in master if I mount cables IDE to the contrary.. with the blue connector on the HD..ma remains problem of the boot from floppy or cd
    5) I have tried to install others 2 not new HD (samsung 6,4 Gb + seagate4,6 Gb)..il fastrack recognizes them also in master..it allows the Array in raid 0 or raid1 but it remains the problem of the boot from floppy or cd.
    6) tried to move fastrack on other slot Pci (also on one of those to 33Mhz) identical problems
    7) bios mainboard all ok..also why if I do not make array..part the boot from floppy or cdrom..also if then to the fine ones it says nonexistent disc to me (lacks the Array..)
    8) changed to cables courrent..do not creed is that one the problem..Enermax 460W..e then if septum in a determined way jumper the recognized HD
    9) modernized bios..le tests son been made it is with that old one that with last (the 1.02.0.5)
    10)  tried to use other cable 80 pin connecting a single HD WD in master..l' HD it is not recognized!
    11) tried also to detach controller USB
    12) moved reader DVD in primary slave and also in secondary (it is master that slave)
    13) mounted same fastrack SX4000 on other pc..same problems
    14) I have modernized bios to version 1,3 (last the available on the site US..on the taiwanese site is version 1,82 but I do not trust myself)
    15) I do not know what other to make!
    I have read on the situated one that not there were problems of incompatible with my Mainboard and was compatible with HD Western WD0800BB (80 GB and 2 Digital Mb of buffer) and with WD1200JB (120Gb and 8 Mb of buffer)..i 8 WD0800JB are 80Gb and have Mb of buffer..but creed are not a problem of HD..inasmuch as the problems remain also changing discs (seagate and samsung).
    I absolutely have need of this PC for job
    if it finds one solution..please it makes to know me! ;(  thanks

  • K7D Master multiplier over 12.5?

    I'm just about to get my ordered K7D Master (hopefully L version - depends if they can get it) today or tomorrow and I'm wondering if the multiplier will go higher than 12.5 and if the limitation is due to hardware or bios. I'm assuming a bios update will fix it as user Mr. Heat  (also saw him at http://www.2cpu.com) is using 2100 or 2200 MP's cpu's (13X multiplier) which work automatically but he wasn't able to change the multiplier even with unlocked MP cpu's.
    So... my question is: Can the K7D Master run future MP 2400 or MP 2600 or XP 2400, etc cpu's without problems? ?(
    On a side note, is software IDE raid easier to setup with XP than 2k? (will probably get XP with new mobo)
    Mr. Heat Are you running XP or win2k for stability?

    Hi, I checked the K7D Master CPU Support Status web page and Athlon MP 2200+ is listed, but I can't install windows 2k or windows xp,  stop errors and blue screens appear during the instalation process.
    Is there any bios configuration specially for this processors?
    When is going to be released the next version of bios?
    I had to downgrade the bios to 1.3 version and only windows 2k works, but it detects the 2 processors as Athlon XP.
    Thanks in advance ...
    My configuration:
    2 Athlon MP 2200+
    1.5 gb PC2100 ECC
    GeForce4 TI4400
    Audigy 1394
    C-net Lan card and modem
    2 Maxtor 120 gb, 7200 rpms
    CDRW Lite-on 52x

  • K7D Master CPU Question

    Hello
    I have a K7D Master with dual 2100+ CPUs, 1GB ram, BIOS v1.82. It started having problems so I sent it back to MSI for repair. When I got it back and started to put it together I noticed that I damaged one of the processors. I looked on pricewatch and saw that a new 2800+ is only $40 more then a 2100+. Can I run the board with a 2800+ in the primary socket and the other 2100+ in the secondary socket. If so, I assume that they will run no faster then the 2100+, however, I would upgrade the other 2100 shortly after. I have to pay tuition this month so I can't buy both 28's right now.
    Also I tried to run the board with the one good processor in the primary socket but the computer won't boot. Does any one know why this would happen?
    Thanks
    Scott

    Hi, I checked the K7D Master CPU Support Status web page and Athlon MP 2200+ is listed, but I can't install windows 2k or windows xp,  stop errors and blue screens appear during the instalation process.
    Is there any bios configuration specially for this processors?
    When is going to be released the next version of bios?
    I had to downgrade the bios to 1.3 version and only windows 2k works, but it detects the 2 processors as Athlon XP.
    Thanks in advance ...
    My configuration:
    2 Athlon MP 2200+
    1.5 gb PC2100 ECC
    GeForce4 TI4400
    Audigy 1394
    C-net Lan card and modem
    2 Maxtor 120 gb, 7200 rpms
    CDRW Lite-on 52x

  • MacPro RAID card - best drives?

    Hey, anybody have any experience they'd like to share on a good set of drives to go with the Apple RAID card? I want to get 4 and I'm looking for maximum speed, but I can't break the bank, so no Raptors.
    cheers,
    -r

    Well, save your $$ and just DON'T! get the Apple RAID card, then you could afford some decent drives.
    600GB 10K VRs $279 x 2
    OWC SSD 100GB x 2
    As for what drives, bare in mind -
    If you read the Apple Support Mac Pro link to RAID card FAQ:
    Question: *Which drives does Apple support for the Mac Pro RAID Card and the Xserve RAID Card?*
    Answer: Only Apple SATA drives and Promise 450GB SAS Drive modules sold through the Apple Store are supported for use with the Mac Pro RAID Card (Early 2009) and the Xserve RAID Card (Early 2009). Apple 300GB SAS Drive modules are supported with the Mac Pro RAID Card (Late 2007) and Xserve RAID Card (Early 2007). Drives must be either all Serial ATA (SATA) or all Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) drives. SSD drive modules are not recommended for the Apple RAID Card because these drives use their own on-disk cache and cannot take advantage of the protection provided by the battery-backed cache on the RAID card.
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1346#faq8
    People do try and use retail SATA drives, with mixed results. I have never seen anyone mix SAS and SATA.

  • User guide: MSI HQ USB BIOS Flash Tool

    Guide based on USB tool v1.17c
    HOW TO properly use the MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool to update your BIOS
    This user guide provides a step-by-step explanation for properly using the >>MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool<< to prepare a USB Flash Drive for a safe BIOS-Flash in a pure DOS Environment. The tool itself will not perform the actual flashing operation.  It will "only" help you to get your USB Stick set up for an automated DOS flashing procedure which requires final confirmation.  (If you should run into any problems before you are prompted for final confirmation in DOS, no attempt to flash has been made yet and there is no danger of a bad flash.)
    NOTE: If you are having problems getting your USB device to boot correctly, you may need to format it correctly as the geometry data may be incorrect. You can do that by pickup option "Fix My USB key" from the Tool or by using >>> THIS <<< tool here! For future usage you can skip this step, it need to be done only once if your stick need adjustment.
    Symptoms that your USB key need a fix after booting from the USB key:
    * Error: "No bootable partition in table"
    * Blinking cursor in a top left corner and nothing happens
    * "RIVER2 MSI"
    * "Error loading operating system"
    * "Missing operating system"
    * "Disk in drive is not a bootable"
    * Booting from selected USB key is IGNORED, the other/typical OS continue to load as usual
    If still no change after using "Fix My USB key" Tool's option or HP Formatter Tool as alternative.
    Then try with different USB key, the issue is there.
    Note: Those USB keys who support "U3 Smart", this "feature" must be removed before proceed.
    Refer to followed link: http://u3.sandisk.com/launchpadremoval.htm
    Read the three notes that follow first before you move on:
    1. Note: Before you even think about flashing a different BIOS, be sure that your system is stable. If it is not stable, make it stable first. (Read >>here<<.)
    2. Note: Make sure your system meets the preconditions and system requirements mentioned below before you attempt to use the tool.
    3. Note: Do know that flashing your BIOS, be it with the help of the tool or otherwise, is done at your own risk.
    Contents of the Guide:
    0. Preconditions & System Requirements
    1. Basic Description of Functionality
    2. Installing/Starting the tool.
    3. Choosing a Preparation Method
      3.1. Method 1: Processing a BIOS Archive Directly (ZIP/RAR)
      3.2. Method 2: Processing a BIOS File Directly
      3.3. Method 3: SureHands Live Update
      3.4. Method 4: Geometry Change
    4. Selecting the USB Flash Drive for preparation
    5. BIOS Settings, Booting & Flashing
      5.1. BIOS Settings to Check
      5.2. Booting from USB Flash Drive
      5.3. Flashing Procedure/Running MemTest86+ & CMOS-Clear
    6. FAQ: Common Problems & Solutions
    7. Version History
    0. Preconditions & System Requirements
    The main precondition for using the tool is a working & healthy Windows installation on the system that needs the BIOS flash.  The Tool is designed to work with MSI Retail Boards & Laptops only.
    Please note mainboards of other brands and OEM boards that are manufactured by MSI but sold by Medion, HP, NEC and others are not supported. If you have an OEM board that needs a BIOS update read this topic: >>OEM boards manufactured by MSI<<
    Supported Operating Systems: All current Windows Versions (32bit & 64bit, any service pack (SP)): Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows 2003, Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7.
    The second requirement is that you have a fully functional USB Flash Drive that uses the FAT file system (FAT/FAT32).  NTFS is not supported. If your USB Flash Drive is using the NTFS File System, reformat it to FAT or FAT32.
    As the tool also provides a Live Update Option ("SureHands"), you'll need a working internet connection if you want to choose this method. Not all boards are supported at this point.*
    * Check section 3.3 of this guide to see if your board is currently supported by the SureHands feature.
    1. Basic Description of Functionality
    The MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool will help you to easily prepare an USB flash drive for an automated BIOS flash in a pure DOS environment, which is the safest way to perform such a procedure. The tool will also allow you to run MemTest86+ in a pure DOS environment. However, the preparation of your USB Stick is done in Windows and basically includes two steps:
    (1) The device will be made bootable.
    (2) All necessary files (incl. BIOS file, actual flasher and MemTest86+ executable) and all DOS commands that are needed to flash/test memory will automatically be implemented.
    Because the tool does not reformat your USB Flash Drive*, no files that may currently be on the stick will be lost during the procedure.  Just make sure that there is still some free drive space, otherwise there will not be enough room for the files that are needed for BIOS Flashing.
    * Excluding the Geometry Change method which will destroy all data on the USB storage device.
    2. Installing/Starting the tool
    Treat the forum's USB Flashing Tool like a regular application.  Download it to and run it from your hard drive, there is no need to copy & start it from the USB Flash Drive that you want to use for flashing.  Both, the installer version and the stand-alone version, do precisely the same job.  Which of the two versions you use, is solely up to you and your preferences.  The stand-alone version can be started directly by clicking on the executable file.  The installer version will perform an installation and provide you with an entry in your start menu and a desktop shortcut to start the tool.
    When you start the tool a DOS box should open up to provide you with status messages and prompts.  Do not close that box unless you want to abort the preparation procedure!
    Please ensure that you connect the USB flash drive you wish to use before starting the Tool!
    NOTE: If you do not connect your USB storage device before starting the tool, or the tool doesn't detect it. You can still insert the drive letter, as the tool will continue as normal.
    The tool will first check, if an MSI mainboard is installed in your system and show you its model name and PCB Version in a message box. Click >OK< to continue to choose the tool's preparation method that you want to use to prepare your USB Flash Drive.
    3. Choosing a Preparation Method
    If your MSI Retail Board is properly detected and you have pressed the >OK< button in the message box, an option box will pop up that allows you to choose between three different operating modes.  The options you can choose from are more or less self-explanatory, however, read the detailed description if you are unsure how to proceed at this point:
    3.1. Method 1: Processing a BIOS Archive Directly (ZIP/RAR)
    Official MSI BIOS-Updates that can be downloaded from the product site of your board model do usually come as .ZIP or .RAR archives that contain the actual BIOS File and the corresponding AWARD or AMI flashing utility (depending on the BIOS Type of your board).  If you have downloaded such an archive, you should choose the first method from the option box. 
    You do not need to extract the files from the BIOS archive.  The tool will ask you to point it to the archive you downloaded and automatically extract the BIOS File and the AMI or AWARD flashing utility and put it them on your USB Flash Drive.  You don't have to worry about anything else.  All you have to do is to remember where you saved the ZIP or RAR file you downloaded:
    3.2. Method 2: Processing a BIOS File Directly
    If you do not have a ZIP or RAR archive that already contains a BIOS File and the proper flashing utitility, but only the plain unpacked BIOS File, choose the second Method from the option box.  In most cases BETA BIOS Files supplied by MSI Support or shared here in the Forum do not come with the proper flashing utility.  If the MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool is told to process a plain BIOS File, it will automatically check the type of BIOS File (AMI or AWARD) and then select the proper flashing utility that needs to be used.  All you need to do is point the tool to the BIOS-File that is supposed to be flashed:
    3.3. Method 3: SureHands Live Update
    "SureHands Live Update" is the third operation method you can choose from the option box.  It provides a much safer and more reliable alternative to MSI Live Update as the actual BIOS Flash is performed in a pure DOS environment as well.  If you decide to use this option, you do not to supply the tool with a BIOS-Archive or a BIOS-File.
    Not all MSI Retail Boards are currently supported.  With every update of the USB Flashing Tool more boards will be added.  At present, you can use the "SureHands" Live Update method with the following boards only (the list will be updated regularly):
    AMD based boards:
    K8N Neo4-F (MS-7125, PCB 3.0)
    K8NGM2-FID (MS-7207, PCB 2.0)
    K8N Diamond Plus (MS-7220, PCB 1.0)
    K8N Neo3 (MS-7135, PCB 1.0 & 2.0)
    K9A Platinum (MS-7280, PCB 1.0)
    K9A2 Platinum (MS-7376, PCB 1.0)
    K9A2 CF-F (MS-7388, PCB 1.0)
    K9N Neo-F (MS-7260, PCB 1.0 & 2.0)
    K9VGM-V (MS-7253, PCB1.0)
    K9N2GM-F V2 (MS-7509, PCB 1.0)
    K9N Neo V2 / V3 (MS-7369, PCB 1.1)
    K9N Platinum & K9N SLI Platinum (MS-7250, PCB1.0)
    K9N2 Diamond (MS-7375, PCB 1.1)
    K9N2 SLI Platinum (MS-7374, PCB 1.1)
    K9N2 Zilent (MS-7374, PCB 1.1)
    K9N2 Neo-F (MS-7511, PCB 1.1)
    DKA790GX Platinum (MS-7550, PCB 1.1)
    790FX-GD70 (MS-7577, PCB 1.0)
    790GX-G65 (MS-7576, PCB 1.0)
    Intel based boards
    HydroGenX48C & X48C Platinum (MS-7353, PCB 3.0)
    X48 Platinum (MS-7353, PCB 1.0)
    X38 Diamond Plus
    X38 Diamond (MS-7353, PCB 1.0)
    X38 Platinum (MS-7353, PCB 1.0)
    EFINITY-FP (MS-7395(E), PCB 1.0)
    P35 Neo Combo-F (MS-7365, PCB 1.0)
    P35 Neo2 Series (MS-7345, PCB 1.1)
    P35 Platinum (MS-7345, PCB 1.1)
    P35 Neo-F (MS-7360, PCB 1.0)
    G33 Platinum (MS-7345, PCB 1.1 & PCB 1.2)
    P965 Platinum (MS-7238, PCB 1.1)
    975X Platinum PowerUp Edition (MS-7246, PCB 2.1)
    865PE Neo2-P Platinum Edition (MS-6728, PCB 2.0C)
    P7N SLI Platinum (MS-7380, PCB 1.0)
    P7N2 Diamond (MS-7523 PCB 1.0)
    P7N Diamond (MS-7510, PCB 1.0)
    P7N SLI Platinum (MS-7380, PCB 1.0)
    P6N Diamond (MS-7320, PCB 1.0)
    P6N SLI Platinum (MS-7350, PCB 1.0)
    P6N SLI-FI (MS-7350 PCB 2.0)
    P6N SLI V2 (MS-7346 PCB 1.0)
    ECLIPSE SLI (MS-7520, PCB 1.0)
    ECLIPSE Plus (MS-7566, PCB 1.0)
    P35 Neo3-F (MS-7395, PCB 1.0)
    After selecting "SureHands" from the option box, the tool will automatically check for all available official BIOS-Versions for your mainboard.  It will also look for the latest available BETA BIOS Version for you board and save that information in a TXT-File on your Desktop:
    Note: The SureHands option will not provide you with the latest BETA BIOS, it will only provide the information.
    When the tool is done scanning for official BIOS releases for your board, it will give you the possibility to manually choose the BIOS Version you want to flash.  SureHands Live Update will not automatically select the latest version and use it for flashing, it will give you the chance of choosing between all available official BIOS releases that are available:
    Note that the "May not exist" comment that appears behind some versions does not mean that the BIOS does not exist.  If you know the latest BIOS for your board is e.g. v1.8, SureHands will retrieve it even though there may be such a comment.  That message is part of a prediction feature that tries to determine future BIOS Releases.  If a BIOS version that was predicted by the SureHands feature is not available yet, the tool will tell you if it cannot retrieve the files and ask you to select an earlier version.
    3.4 Geometry Change
    If the tool fails to make your USB storage device bootable then you will need to use this mode. It will make your drive bootable, select it:
    Select your drive then let the tool do it's business.
    Once the process is complete, run the tool again via method 1, 2 or 3, restart your computer and try booting from the USB storage device again.
    NOTE: This method will destroy ALL data on the USB storage device!
    NOTE: This method is available in v1.17 and beyond.
    4. Selecting the USB Flash Drive for preparation
    When you have chosen one of the three methods from the option list and pointed the tool at the corresponding archive, BIOS File or selected the desired BIOS Version from the list in case you chose to use SureHands Live Update, the MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool will prompt you to enter the drive letter of the USB Flash Drive you want to use for flashing:
    Note that certain drive letters are reserved and will therefore not be accepted by the tool (currently A:, B: and C:). If you are sure you have connected an USB Flash Drive to the system that works properly but it does not appear in the table that appears in the DOS box, enter the corresponding drive letter anyway and see if the tool accepts it.  This can happen in rare cases, but it is usually no problem.
    The tool will check the selected drive and will provide you with status messages.  If everything is okay, the message should look like this:
    The tool will attempt to make the device bootable and automatically write all files that are needed for flashing to the drive to prepare it for flashing.  If the procedure was successful, you will get the following message in the DOS box:
    5. BIOS-Settings, Booting & Flashing
    If the Tool has prepared your drive for booting & flashing, no BIOS flash attempt has been made yet. Only the preparation process. In order to initiate the flashing procedure, you have to restart your system and make it boot from the USB Flash drive. Before you move on to do that, enter the BIOS Setup and check a few options:
    5.1. BIOS Settings to Check
    Check USB-related Options in BIOS:
    - USB Controller
    - USB 2.0 Controller
    - USB Legacy Support
    - USB Storage Support
    - Boot from other devices
    - etc.
    Not all of these options may be found in BIOS and the precise name may vary as well.  Just make sure you checked for such options and that they are enabled (if present).
    Another option you should check for is "Boot Sector Protection".  If such an option is present in your BIOS, make sure it is disabled because it may make a BIOS Flash impossible.
    @all Overclockers: In case your system is currently overclocked, make sure you roll back to default clock and voltage settings before you attempt to start the flashing procedure. Otherwise you increase the risk of an unsuccesful flash, and you most probably don't want something like that to happen.
    5.2. Booting from USB Flash Drive
    To boot from your USB drive you can either change the boot sequence in BIOS accordingly or just press F11 during POST* to get access to the BIOS Boot Menu.  From here, you can select you drive directly without having to adjust the boot sequence in BIOS.  Note that your USB Flash Drive may be listed as a hard drive (if you choose that entry you will get another list to choose from).
    * Not all mainboards use F11, for the boot menu. If F11 fails for you, please consult your manual for the correct key.
    Note: If you have problems booting from your drive, look at the FAQ-Section of this guide and see if any of the tips resolve the issue.
    5.3. Flashing Procedure/Running MemTest86+
    As soon as the system boots from the drive, DOS will be loaded and you will be displayed with two options. One option will start MemTest86+, the other will begin the flashing procedure. If no choice is made, MemTest86+ will automatically start.
    The flashing procedure will automatically be initiated from there.  You will see status messages on the screen that will supply you with information and also prompt you for final confirmation for the actual BIOS-Flash.  A backup of you current BIOS will automatically be saved to a file on the drive (backup.bin) before the flashing actually starts.  You do not need to enter any commands in DOS.  All you have to do is acknowledge the information on the screen by pressing a key.
    The flash itself will only take a couple of seconds (20-30s at the most).  If the flashing is successfully completed, shutdown the system and clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU.  Read the >>Clear CMOS Guide<< for further information. 
    After clearing CMOS you have completed the BIOS-Flash. 
    Guide created by Jack The Newbie and the forum team

    Version updated to 1.18x:
    * Mode 3 Sure Hands, Live Update:
    - Removed beta BIOS query check[global]
    - Fixed issue K9N2 Diamond unable to be detected as supported unit if onboard is installed BIOS version 2.4,
     add dynamic detection for future versions.
    - Fixed issue 790FX-GD70 unable to be detected as supported unit and add dynamic detection for future versions.
    - Fixed issue 790GX-G65 unable to be detected as supported unit and add dynamic detection for future versions.
    - Add support for 785G-E65, add dynamic detection for future versions, prediction BIOS range 3.1 - 3.A
    - Add support for 785G-E53, add dynamic detection for future versions, prediction BIOS range 3.1 - 3.A
    - Add support for 790GX-G65 Winki ED, prediction BIOS range 2.1 - 2.A
    - Fixed issue P7N Diamond unable to be detected as supported unit if onboard BIOS installed is 1.3 and above,
     add dynamic detection for future versions.
    - Add support for K9A2 Neo2, prediction BIOS range 7.4 - 7.D
    - Add support for 790XT-G45, prediction BIOS range 2.2 - 2.B
    - Add support for 770T-C45, prediction BIOS range 8.4 - 8.D
    - Add support for 770T-C35, prediction BIOS range 8.4 - 8.D
    - Fixed issue K9A2 Platinum[V1,V2] unable to be detected as supported unit if onboard BIOS installed is 1.9,
     add dynamic detection for future versions, prediction BIOS range extended to 1.F0
    - 790GX-G65 board prediction BIOS range extended to ver: 1.D0
    - 790GX-G65 board update bios base ver from 1.xx to 4.xx [following new msi rule for this board jumping from 1.xx to 4.xx]
    - Add support for 770-C35|C45 boards [p1] BIOS range 1.40 - 1.D0
    - Add support for 770-G45 board [p2] BIOS range A10 - AA0
    * Add "Exit" option to navigation screen
    * Update version info related to boot part
    * Update boot part to handle newest features
    * Modify Self update sequence of Installer version
    * Update internal version check ID
    * Mode 4 minor update
    * Build and add new Tool's module for newest features
    * W32 Tool's exit time part decreased by 10 seconds
    * On received OS reboot user request, time delay before execution decreased by 15 seconds
    * Update EC decoder
    * Update start-up information screen
    * Auto store start-up detected information to user's desktop ==> [MSIHQ_INFO.TXT]
    Details:
    Easy to show machine information on request, instead write down from the screen manually, now just copy/paste can be used from MSIHQ_INFO.TXT
    User can check and compare information before and after the BIOS update
    Also usefull if didn't remember what was his original BIOS or EC versions before the update, Tool will auto store it there.
    And easy can be checked if needs. E.g Tool's log file of each Tool's execution, each report will include date and time as well.
    F.A.Q example:
    Q: I flashed BIOS on my notebook and now it doesn't work properly.. And i don't remember what was my old BIOS version.. What can i do?
    A: Take a look in MSIHQ_INFO.TXT at your desktop, there is auto recorded your detailed information about your notebook before the BIOS update.
    So you can easy find what was your original BIOS & EC versions.
    Is it OEM one or not, and the exact original BIOS & EC versions.
    So you can roll back easy or if crossflashing were done to reflash to correct versions.
    Example question:[this board now use 4.xx bios, but don't have time to make a new images.]
    It's just example, do not mean that this BIOS used in the example is bad. But generally often can need to roll back to older version.
    Or to use Sure Hands because[The BIOS is N/A for manual download, By SureHands no need to browse/search/download and point to the BIOS version, also eliminate any chances to pickup the wrong BIOS, and not at last its more quickly[save a time]]
    Q: I flashed my BIOS via MSI Live Update, but the new BIOS has an issues.
        How i can roll back to my old BIOS version?
        The MSI LiveUpdate can only update to the latest BIOS version, which is not good for me.
        And i can't download my old BIOS version manually... Because "This BIOS can only update via Live Update function"
        http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1739
        How i can re-flash to my original BIOS version and from where can i get it?
    A: Run >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<,
    then choose Mode 3 [Live Update{aka SureHands}]:
    MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
    MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 21:09:45,15
    Mainboard:  790GX-G65 (MS-7576)       
    PCB Version:  1.0
    BIOS Version: V1.3
    BIOS Date:  05/08/2009
    MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
    MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 21:22:38,42
    Mainboard:  790GX-G65 (MS-7576)       
    PCB Version:  1.0
    BIOS Version: V1.6
    BIOS Date:  11/30/2009
    Then choose your old BIOS version from the list:
    The followed image used below is a sample from Eclipse board,[no time to make accurate image] but will look similar for others boards too:
    In a list will be noticed that there is a future BIOS versions.
    Some of them will be not released yet. If you pick some of those the Tool will note you:
    It's a part of Tool's BIOS prediction system called "Crystal Ball", when MSI release a future BIOSes for your board,
    Tool can find them immediately. By that way the Tool no need to be updated to be actual in each moment
    * Add new feature "True BIOS Version Ready"
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