K7N2 & ATi AIW9700Pro = No go ??

ok, just bought a new GFX card, the Sapphire All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro card..   plugged it in...   turned the machine on and almost instantly the machine powers down, then I have to remove the powercord from the PSU to be able to try another power cycle....
did a lot of testing, removed all other devices, still same
tried it in 2 other machines, one other with the K7N2, and the Epox 8RDA3+ (nforce2 also)  = nogo
But the card works fine in a KT266 (MSI) board I tried and 2 P4 machines I tried ???
so it looks to my like the AIW + nforce2 = NoGo ???  ;(
any ideas/help?
regards
fFletchs

well, searching other forums I have seen a LOT of people with this issue and it seems only to affect the All-In-Wonder card, not the standard 9700 and 9800 cards.
And its always a combination of a nforce2 board, AIW card and a highend PSU, Antec's or Enermax's....
Apparently there is a failsafe in the PSU which kicks in and shuts the machine down, people have been putting in old 300W PSU and then they can boot(cheap PSU dont have this failsafe ?), but I don't want to do that since it would probably kill my overclocking adventures...
I have been unable to get any help from ATi, MSI, Epox (also have an epox nforce2 board) or Antec, all say their component is fine, which is true but this is combination of things...    
This is obiously an known issue but I have not seen a solution, one way to boot is to not connect the extra power connector until maybe 1-2 secs after turning the machine on...  
My hardware info is in the sig...
Just see this thread
Some people have also been replacing there boards for an Asus A7N8 I think its called, an Nforce2 boards which doesn't have this problem...
If I dont find a solution within couple of days then I'm about to replace my mobo and cpu and go intel i guess, which is $$$ I was not planning to spend  :(
please help me!  
fFletchs

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