K7N2 D-ILSR over Abit's NF7-S? Convince me!

Okay, the title pretty well sums it up. My heart's been set on the Delta-ILSR for the last several months but now that the time's come for me to buy I've had to stop & reconsider. I've been going thru forums & reviews left & right the last few days and I'm a bit disappointed in what I'm hearing about the MSI board & MSI's lack of support. After reading all 23 pages of the video card fiasco it seems that MSI's finally headed in the right direction.
Here are my component choices:
Barton 2500
2 x 256 PC2700 Crucial
I plan on using my ATI Radeon 7200 for awhile (I'm not much of a gamer, right now, at least.)
Here are my concerns:
1) I don't much care for the lack of being able to disable SATA RAID but I don't know how much of pain this actually is. Chances are that I'll never actually need RAID. This system will start out as a PC & within the next few months or so will double as a server for a small home network.
2) I've heard a few people who work for companies building systems say that the K7N2 Delta-ILSR has had a fairly high return rate, (one person said about 50%). Some were RAM related, (which I don't think will be a problem with my RAM choice), and some wouldn't boot or had other problems.
3) I've heard that the Abit NF7-S's sound has a crackling sound, how is the Delta's sound?
4) I have no plans to overclock, (I've never done it before, although I'd like to try it sometime to see if it's worth it all.), but I like the fact that the NF7-S can do so right outta the box. I thought MSI was known for this.
So, here I am, stuck in between a rock & a hard place. I've always thought highly of MSI & I've had my heart set on this purdy lil red mobo running circles around my PC Crypts, uh... Chips, 810 LMR with a 750 Duron. But, the Abit board seems to have less complaints & supposedly is equal to the Delta in "real-world" tests.
Can those of you with personal experience convince me to go on & get the MSI?
Thanks for your time & help on this matter. It's very much appreciated!
HH

Raven wrote;
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2.alot of problems are user related.
Yeah, a lot of people don't take that into consideration. I feel that user error is the leading cause of setup failures & RMAs.
Deathstalker wrote;
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A Referbed Delta-ILSR is NOT the way to go.
I didn't think so either but figured I'd ask. Heh, I'm the type of guy that digs all the way to the back of the shelf to get a box of whatever that hasn't been opened & then inspect it to make sure it's not been re-packaged, usually opening it right there before I buy it to make sure everything's there. Scratch that idea.
stilup wrote;
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I now have learned how to do it kindler and gentler....
Don't skimp on the power and make sure to have very good memory.
Ahh, the school of hard knocks, 'eh? I know that teacher well.
I've been checking out some of the Antecs at Newegg.
axeluktoo wrote;
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One thing's for sure - the only way to go from an 810 LMR is UP
LOL!!! Ya got that right!!!
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You certainly did the right thing by coming here before you bought the board - If'n you're gonna spend money it pays to check the goods out with the end users first!
Thanks! Reviews are good to give ya a good general idea of a board's performance but the reviewers usually don't have the time to really get a good feel for the board in normal, everyday use. Nothing beats personal experience.
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Anyway, If you do go the MSI route, you can come and chat with us can't you?
I've got a feeling you'll be seeing a bit more of me.
twistedbrowntucker wrote;
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You don't know how many people don't surf the message boards before they buy.They come here to complain or ask for help after they have assembled with incompatible RAM PSU's etc etc.
Well, actually, I do. I've been a member of a tech forum for just over a year now where I try to help out with what lil bit I do know when I have the time. There's 4 members there supporting the NF7-S from personal experience but I've told 'em from the get-go that I was MSI biased but was still trying to have an open mind before opening my wallet.
I really do appreciate ya'll takin' your time to help me make the decision that's right for me. You guys have got some class. Ya'll didn't start any flame wars or "MSI is better just because it is.". I've been here in front of this screen for 'bout 5 hrs now so I'm gonna take a break for awhile & I'll post my decision a little later on.
Once again, thanks a bunch! I hope I didn't leave anyone out while replying, if so, I'm sorry.

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More K7N2 Delta ILSR issues

After resolving many issues I've got with my K7N2 Delta ILSR (I still have no regret because I choose it over Abit or Epox), there are still some problems I could not overcome:
1. the system cannot resume standby (it goes in S1 or S3, but hangs when resuming before any image appears on monitor)
2. at a freq when I have stability with default vcore, raising vcore is producing instability (system freeze when running prime95)
3. system temp reported by mbm -last version- seems high: 48-52 degrees; the proc temp is always 4 degrees -no more, no less- higher
My specs: K7N2 Delta ILSR, Barton 2600@2170Mhz (10.5x206) cooler master aero 7+,
4HDD: 2SATA raid 0 Maxtor 120Gb, 1Maxtor 200Gb and 1 WD 80Gb on IDE3 (Lumberjack mooded bios 7.6), 1 DVD-RW Pionner 106D, 1 CD-RW Yamaha F1, 1 CD-RW Plextor 48\24\48, Hercules Radeon 8500 128Mb ,…, Psu Chieftech 420W (very stable voltages -reported in mbm- when running Prime95 and (or) other killer appz), Thermaltake Xaser III V1000A case

Anybody? I am worried in particulary about the imposibility of resuming from standby... please help

MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR Dead? Help!

Hey all,
Well, the other day I was on my computer playing a game when my mobo fan started making an odd noise (as if switching rpm), so I took off the side of my case and took a look inside. Everything seemed to be functioning properly, then I switched my cpu fan speed via the pci slot speed control. As I switched from High-Medium-Low, I noticed that the fan actually slowed to the point where I could see the blades spinning, at least for a second or so. I found that rather odd, seeing as how I've never seen a fan (especially a cpu fan) slow to the point that I could see the blades spin. Anyway, a couple of hours later, I shut down and went to sleep.
The next day I had my comp on for about maybe 30mins to an hour or so when suddenly I heard an alarm from the computer speaker, so I was like, ":censored:?" since I had never heard it before. It was evidently the temperature warning, which I had set to 70C. So I shut down within 15 seconds and opened up the side of my case.
I noticed that the cpu fan wasn't moving at all (usually I'd open the case in time to see the spin-down). So I turned the computer back on and the fan didn't budge, so I immediately powered down, assuming that the CPU Fan had died. Later on, I hooked the fan itself up to a free power cord in my sister's computer and booted up, along with the speed controller, flipping from medium to high to low without any problems.
I then did screwed the fan back to the heatsink in my comp and booted up. I went into the bios an noticed that the rpm was 8k, which is way too high for my fan (normally 5k). So i began switching from high, medium, to low once again, then I saw that the rpm reader in the bios went to 0. So I looked back in the side of my case and saw that the cpu fan was once again dead. At this point I concluded that it was the fan and was about to order the Volcano 12.
A day later I placed the fan inside my sister's computer on a free cord, yet again, and yet again, it worked fine.
I once again put it in my computer to test and this time it worked fine, even while switching between speeds. Unfortunately, I then noticed that the mobo fan was not moving, then began to move.
Well, I'm guessing now that it's simply the motherboard that has a short, since both the motherboard fan as well as the cpu fan have randomly been dying the past few days. The motherboard fan; however, has switched rpm many times in the past from 5k to 3k.
It could also be a PSU problem, but I have Antec 400watt psu and it's been working fine for the past 2 years, so I doubt it. I've had the motherboard for a little over a year. I upgraded my cpu from 2200+ to 3000+ in July. That's also when I bought the cpu fan. The motherboard fan began fluctuating in rpm noticeably back in April or May of this year.
Yesterday, I used the computer again and had it on for about 2 hours or so and I had speedfan monitoring the temps and the rpm. The temps stayed relatively stable: 48 cpu, 44 mobo.
But alas, the RPMs were totally [blame me for the swear filter] up. At one point, both the mobo and cpu fan speeds were reading 0, even though both continued to spin within the case and the temps remained the same. Then after 30mins or so, they cpu fan began reading again at 40,000-42,000rpm, which is obviously incorrect, seeing as the fan is rated for around 5k. I got/get the same readings in the bios, both fans reading at 0rpm as they continue to physically spin.
Also, during a number of times that I've started up the comp within the past few days, the motherboard northbridge fan wasn't spinning at all and didn't begin to until a few minutes into my windows session.
Also, I took out the NB fan and noticed a slight crack in the back of it.
I was considering simply just buying the Volcano 12 and the MSI K7N2 Delta2 Platinum rather than RMAing the mobo. Then perhaps an Antec 550W psu, if necessary.
Any ideas what I should replace and in which order? And has anybody else encountered any similar problems with this mobo (at least with the mobo rpm, which has been a prob for about 6months on and off)?
I bought the mobo along with a 2200+ in July of 2003. I upgraded the ram from 256 to 512 in April 2004 (which is around the time I started hearing rpm probs with the mobo fan) and I upgraded the cpu in July of 2004
Many Thanks!
My Specs are as follows:
Windows XP Professional SP1
Antec SX1040B2 File Server Case
400watt Antec PSU
MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR
AMD Athlon XP 3000+ (2.17GHz)
Thermaltake TR2 M2 HSF
Kingston 256MB of PC2700 DDR-333MHz RAM
Generic 256MB of PC2700 DDR-333MHz RAM
ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro
Sound Blaster Audigy 2ZS Platinum
Pioneer 10x DVD Drive
Sony 8x Double Layer DVD-+RW
Western Digital 120.0GB 7200RPM HD ATA/100
Western Digital 120.0GB 7200RPM HD ATA/100
nForce Ethernet Adapter w/Cable line
Logitech MX500 Optical Mouse
Logitech Elite Keyboard
19" Envision Monitor EN985e
Logitech Z-680 5.1 Speakers

Could be a fluctuating PSU that's breaking down power to the MB. You have a whole lot of components dragging that PSU down. With what you have in your rig I would run either an Antec or Enermax 550W. Best way to be sure is to borrow a PSU or buy one from a store with a good return policy so that you can return it if indeed it turns out to be the MB. If I don't have your board here on my bench to test the only thing I can suggest to you is to swap out components unfortunately.

MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR Wont boot up (no display no bios)

Hi
i bought a AMD Athlon XP 3200+ & MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR.
unfortuntly i can't boot it. it wont show anything on screen.
i have tried anything i red in this forum (clear cmos... safe mode jumper...strip all parts...)
all i get is :
blank black display, no beeps and keyboard lights flashes over and over (when connected to a KVM hub), when conected directly to keboard the lights flashes only once but stil black display and no beeps (i hear on speake,when powering up PSU, a silent short noise, no beep).
power suply turns on (new one 500w), i tried agp video card and replaced with pci video card.
memory is kingstone 512mb pc3200 400MHz x2, i tried only one of them and both in diferent sockets.
cpu: AMD xp 3200+ 400fsb.
i did succed to go into bios only once, after lots of resets and shutdowns and bios clear (after ouers)
i choosed in the bios: load bios defaults, and thats it. i hoped it starts up but nothing.
i did all testing i know (checked all pins, cables, clear cmos...all, you name it)
all parts are brand new (except motherbord. it's seconds hand from eBay. i've bean talled that it works fine)
i also e-mailed MSI support that question. (2 days ago. no answer yet)
oh...and i have a pci POST diagnostic card and its 7seg display don't shows any numbers, only when once i succed to get into bios. i don't have the msi original D-Breket addon diag.
can you help me?

hi guys
here is my PSU specs:
Colors-It 500w-Max Silent ATX Power Supply
Voltage 115/230V
Current 10A/5A
Frequency 60/50Hz
+3.3 +5 +12 -12 -5 +5SB BLK GRN GRY
30A 50A 15A 1.0A 1.0A 2.5A COM P-ON PG
connectors:
ATX-2.03 Connector: 1
ATX-12V Connector: 1
CD-Rom/HD 4 Pin connector: 6
Floppy 4 Pin Connector: 2
Serial ATA Connector : 1
cpu: AMD Athlon XP 3200+
MotherBoard: MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR More: http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K7N2_Delta-ILSR&class=mb
Memory: kingstone 512mb pc3200 400MHz x2 More: http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator/PartsInfo.asp?ktcpartno=KVR400X64C3A/512
i have other brand of memory moduls (micron pc2300) i tried them too. no go.
i tried other PSU, i pulled from my brothers pc (amd xp 1400+).
as i said before, i have pci POST diagnostic card so it could tell me any problem. iguss it's the mobo, posibly bios upgrade.
but if mobo not showing bios, i can't update bios from floppy.
and the tested the mobo out side the case on a antistatic mat and i useed an antistatic strip.
as i said i could get into the bios once, after many resets....choosed 'load bios defaults..', restarted and.....no go.

K7N2 Delta ILSR & Netgear MA311

Please help!
K7N2 Delta ILSR
AMD 2500+ not over clocked
ATI 9600 Pro 256Mb graphics not over clocked
768Mb RAM - not labelled
300Watt PSU
Netgear MA311 PCI Wireless network card
Win XP
Everything works fine bar the Netgear wirless network card. I am getting "The device cannot start. (Code 10)." in Device Manager.
Tried the latest drivers from Netgear. Done a windows update. Updated the BIOS. Tried all the PCI slots. Disabled EVERYTHING (inc on-board network, serial, paralell, usb etc) but the bare bones in the BIOS. Updated from MSI site the system drivers.
Tried the card in my other machines & works fine.
I'm stuck & any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Paul

The IRQ table looks like this:
(ISA) 0 System timer
(ISA) 1 Stadard Keyboard
(ISA) 3 COM2
(ISA) 8 System CMOS/realtime clock
(ISA) 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
(ISA) 13 Numeric data processor
(ISA) 14 Primarary IDE Channel
(ISA) 15 Secondary IDE Channel
(PCI) 4 NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) MCP Audo Processing Unit
(PCI) 5 NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management
(PCI) 5 NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audi Codec Interface
(PCI) 10 NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Controller
(PCI) 10 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
(PCI) 11 Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
(PCI) 11 WinXP Promise FastTrack 376 (tm) Controller
(PCI) 12 Rdeon 9600 Series
(PCI) 12 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Rgds
Paul

K7N2 Delta-ILSR BSOD

Hi
MSI Nforce K7N2 Delta-ILSR
Bios V1016
Antec True380SPGB True Power 380w
AMD Athlon XP2800+
2x512mb Crucial DDR
1xSATA HDD
Abit Siluro GF4 Ti4200
I've installed 1 SATA onto the onboard Raid controller, but I keep getting BSOD when either playing a game or watching avi's. The 0x00000000 message is disappearing too quickly to right down but is saying windows was shut down to prevent damage to the hardware.
Will the K7N2 Delta-ILSR Promise controller work with just one SATA hdd connected, I know that the silicon image controller on my Asus A7N8X-E will support just one SATA connected but will the promise chipset.
I've updated all the drivers but the dreaded BSOD keeps happening.
If it won't it not's a major problem as I do have a PCI sata controller card I can install.
Or are there any issues with the above graphics card and the MSI mobo?
Thanks for any help.

Yep I've created a array with the single SATA and got Windows installed.
I've also changed the memory settings so they are now 1:1 with the FSB.
I've also altered the advance settings so I'll be able to write down the full 0X00000000 string.
Just set net access up via my PC and got this error report from M$
Error Message: STOP 0x000000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER (Q293078)
Error Caused by Graphics Device Driver
Thank you for submitting an error report. Microsoft is unable to determine what specifically caused the problem you reported. To troubleshoot the problem, please see the information listed below.
Analysis
A device driver installed on your computer caused the problem, but we cannot determine the precise cause. Depending on which situation is applicable to you, please do one of the following:
* If you are running Windows Server 2003 you may experience crashes if you have adjusted the Hardware Acceleration setting. Microsoft recommends that you set the Hardware Acceleration setting to None for server systems. To check your Hardware Acceleration setting, go to the Advanced section of the display properties dialog box.
* If you know the manufacturer of the device, contact the manufacturer's product support service for assistance.
* If you don't know the driver's manufacturer and need help diagnosing and resolving this problem, contact your computer manufacturer's product support service.
* Updated drivers might be available on the Microsoft Windows Update website. At Windows Update, you can have your computer scanned and, if there are updated drivers available, Windows Update will offer a selection of drivers that you might be able to use. To learn more about updated drivers that might be available, visit Microsoft Windows Update.
* For information about Microsoft support options, visit Microsoft Product Support Services.
I've downloaded the current graphics card drivers from Abit and I'll install them and see what happens.
I've also adjusted the AGP in the bios from 64mb to 128mb.

K7N2 Delta-ILSR - Radeon 9700 pro - no power.

K7N2 Delta - ILSR (6570)
AMD Athlon XP2800+ (Barton)
nVidia GeForce III 64mb
1GB Samsung PC3200 400MHz DDR Original [2x512MB] [Checked nVidia site = Compatible]
40gb + 80gb Hard Drives
Sony DVD burner
500wat psu 3.3 - 28 / 5 - 40 / 12 - 17
3 extra fans
2 Cathodes
1 EL Cable
Windows XP pro SP2. [all drivers and Bios are upto date]
Everything works 100%
Sapphire Radeon 9700 Pro... No fans, No lights No DVD and 1 Hard Drive.
Power on... Continuous short BEEPS... Monitor comes on with the message "NO POWER CONNECTED TO RADEON"
The Radeon mostly worked for over a year, [trouble booting cold] now it does'nt. [not with my MSI]
The card works with my old board, LEX BN790E via KT266A, 512mb, AMD XP1700+ and all extras.
I have been building my own P.C's for years. Starting with a 386sx, a huge 2mg of ram and Windows 3.11
Everything is connected as it should be.

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The Radeon mostly worked for over a year, [trouble booting cold] now it does'nt. [not with my MSI]
The card works with my old board, LEX BN790E via KT266A, 512mb, AMD XP1700+ and all extras.
that is suggesting to me either your PSU is failing, or it is a Poor PSU with over-optimistic amp ratings (eg Q-Tec). it will all appear to work fine on your older board, as that has lower power requirements, have a look in my sticky Is your problem caused by your PSU? for more info and advice.
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Could people please read the entire post and NOT just the title.
that was a bit rude. people try to help by asking questions and giving suggestions. making responses like that is more likely to make people ignore this topic. Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.

K7N2 Delta ILSR memory problem

I have a K7N2 Delta ILSR board with Athlon XP 2500 with 2 Gig of Mushkin Black Line ram (the ones that are
suppose to be CL2). I change the FSB to 200, and my memory won't run at CL2. Want to raise the Dram voltage
to 2.8V to see if it would make a difference. I looked all over this site for the modded bios 7.8. Does anyone
have the modded bios??? Any help would be appreciated.......

He/She overclocked the 2500+, to make it become a 3200+. Done it myself, but it mostly works with the first step of the 2500+. - That means the overclock forum.
Well, CAS 2 is a very tight timing, which I don't think is possible. In general on Socket A systems:
- FSB 133/266 --> CAS 2 or 2.5
- FSB 166/333 --> CAS 2.5
- FSB 200/400 --> CAS 3

K7N2 Delta ILSR and XP2500+ - strange overclocking problem

Relevant configuration data:
- K7N2 Delta ILSR (with 7.6 BIOS version)
- Barton 2500+ (AQXEA)
- Arctic Silver 3 thermal compound
- GlobalWin CAK 38 (7000 rpm DELTA, all copper)
- 2x512 MB Corsair XMS cmx512 3200c2 (it should run 6-3-3-2 at 200MHz on AMD systems according to older documents, and on 6-3-3-2.5 at 200MHz on AMD systems according to newer documents)
- PSU Enermax EG465P-VE (430W)
- Gigabyte ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
- Battlefield 1942 game
I have 2 seperate problems:
1. When I try to set my proc on 13x166 (Barton XP3000+) BIOS won't recognise that settings and it gives me real-clock rate of 833MHz (and no name, just "Athlon XP"). Just a note, when I set proc to be XP2600 or XP2800, everything is great in BIOS and in real conditions (Windows, Battlefield). I had 7.4 version of BIOS and I tried with new 7.6 version and nothing has changed (as I suspected). Can someone help me about this ?
2. Second problem is a bit more serious.
I'm having problems setting my proc to work with 100% stability on 200MHz FSB speed.
This is what's going on:
- Behaviour in Windows is pretty much good (no random restarts).
- Sometimes (on rare occasions) blues screen appears when I'm in windows or some program. Last time when it appeared it said something about "memory managment". I tried to lower memory settings but nothing seemed to be better.
- If I try to freshly install windows on 200 MHz FSB in 98% of the cases installation will be abrupted (blue screen or resets) or it won't even start to install.
- What's bothering me the most is this: Battlefield 1942 is crashing on regular basis. Sometimes it can hold for 5 minutes, sometimes 20 minutes, sometimes half an hour. But on certain moment, puff, and I'm out in Windows. Not a computer restart, just it throws me on desktop.
I've been checking the temperature on regular basis when I'm playing. It is always low.
I've tried to raise core voltage all the way to 1.8v, but same thing happens.
I've tried to lower memory settings, but I get same BF crashing.
I don't know what else to do or what other component to acuse for instability.
Can somebody please help me ?
Thank you in advance !

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Originally posted by ellswt
On the newer 2500+'s the multiplier is locked, this could be your problem
Nope, because I am changing multiplyers without probs. The only multiplyer that doesn't work is 13x.
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...loosen up your memory timings to add stability, and give it a try again at the 200 mhz fsb without changing the multiplier.
I drove the memory according to the Corsair's specs, and I drove it on lower settings also. No change.
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also you may wish to go up to 2.7 volts for your ram, and 1.7 volts on your processor to add stability, remember sometimes you have to go up gradually a step or two at a time and keep it there for a day or two before you reach your top OC.
I might try upping ram voltage but that doesn't sound good, because it IS DDR 400 memory (an excellent one too !).
It's not like I'm trying to drive it over 200MHz. 200MHz is this memory's normal frequency.
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Newest video driver from ATI may help with the stability on your gaming.
Already have newest drivers.
Anyway, thanks for the tips !

Possible K7N2 Delta-ILSR Problem?

Hi all.
I'm after some advice, if I may be so bold.
As you can see from my sig, i'm running a k7n2 Delta ilsr mobo with a 333MHZ Athlon XP3000+, which is being correctly reported.
I've got 2x 512Mb DDR400 modules in slots 1 & 2.
A powercolor Radeon 9600 Pro 256Mb in the AGP slot.
My problem is this :
When playing a game (IE BF1942, Tiger Woods 2004, NFS Underground), the game will play fine for the first few minutes, then will either exit to the desktop or reboot the machine.
I've updated all the drivers I can think of (Latest NVidia nforce drivers, latest ATI catalyst, latest mobo bios)
I've done a burn in test in SiSoft Sandra, which doesnt reveal anything out of the ordinary.
Now i'm stumped.
Any1 got any ideas where I can go from here?
Thanks in advance for any help.

List Power supply amp ratings from sticker on its side for 3.3 volt, 5 volt and 12 volt. mim is 3.3 24 amps, 5 30 amps and 12 16 amps these or mim more is better.
Download and run memtest86 http://www.memtest86.com/
Lower memory timings, if Traz 6 3 3 2.5 try 7 3 3 2.5 or 8 4 4 2.5 or lower cas to 3 if 2.5.
Check IRQ should have 22 if not reload XP with APIC enabled in bios and PNP disabled. PNP is a hold over from 95, PC2001 APIC Standard works much better with XP/2000.
Even if ram shows errors it may not be bad may just not support the Nvidia chip controlers.
Up grade Nvidia unified drivers from Nvidia web sit not the one on MSI Nvidia one newer.
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
Do you have the lattest drivers for sound card I've had them cause lots of problems if driver not compatiable.
Flash bios to 7.6 if haven't done so yet.
Just wrote this in another forum and copied to here.

Soundstorm won't open! nForce2 k7n2 Delta-ILSR

Yo guys.
For some reason my Soundstorm control panel wont open. Every time i try and open it encounters a problem and needs to close before the window even shows up. In the past I've also had problems where my onboard LAN and sound devices disable themselves. It's a confusing problem, basically even if i try and reset things, like ipconfig /release /renew, it says that i can't renew it because the file needed for it isn't anywhere to be found.
If you need any more information, just ask and i'll give it to you.
-d1git

I'm having a similar problem. I lost my 5.1 sound and it can't be solved by completely uninstalling drivers because that can't even be done.
Specs are as follows:
MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR
AthlonXP 2500+
1gig RAM
ATI Radeon 9100 128mb
WD 120GB HD
WinXP SP1 + updates
When I first built this thing a year ago, the sound, nForce sound control panel worked fine on SP1. About a month ago, I had some issues with the onboard LAN which led to a reinstall (under the "upgrade" option). The "LAN problem" turned out to be a NIC/hub hardware compatibility issue, so it's irrelevant here. After it got done installing, I lost all sound. When I double-clicked on the nForce sound control panel, an error of SndStorm.exe came up. I tried to install over the drivers with the new unified drivers, but the nVidia setup program starts up, gets to 100%, then does nothing. I uninstalled the Dolby MCP and audio controller through the device manager, but before the computer restarts after an "uninstall," a box popped up saying something about "uninstall failed" but Windows shuts down too fast for me to read the rest of the error message. Did this several times.
On subsquent sound driver uninstall/reinstalls, it's been hit or miss. Windows would detect the devices and use the drivers it finds (or if I direct Windows to the driver files I downloaded). Sometimes I get sound from the front 2 speakers and the sub, sometimes I get no sound.
So I tried to reinstall ("upgrade") WinXP+SP1 again, then I went to add/remove software and got rid of all nVidia drivers, restarted. I can't remove "nVidia nForce Utilities" at all. Under the add/remove program entry, it doesn't say how many MB's the utilities take up, nothing about how frequently it was used. When I hit add/remove, the error is simply "installation failed." Clearly the uninstalls aren't clean, and I'm willing to go manually remove things from the registry if I have to, but I don't even know where to start.
Any suggestions on how to fix this other than a clean wipe? Thanks.

HyperX with K7N2 Delta ILSR

I start a new thread because the topic could be interesting to other posters too.
From the MSI website we can see that Kingston DDR is recommended by MSI
but a lot of users here use other brands such as Corsair, Mushkin etc.
WHY?
and
WHY MSI does not recommend Corsair and Mushkin?
I believe both are reasonable questions.
And now lets move to the critical question.
Does the Kigston HyperX (PC3200) 400MHz (KHX3200)-CL2 will work smoothly with the
K7N2 Delta ILSR?
Any input is appreciated.
Thanks

msi_ole,
I have 4 computers here in my home office with various configs in them...way too numerous to list in a signature...my main system that I use for gaming is what is in my signature...I have the K7N2G-ILSR (non Delta) board in my testbed system...I have an MSI Ti-4600 Video card in another one of them...so I DO use MSI parts but I really like the combo of what I show in my signature much more than any other combination that I put together with all of this hardware...The system below is the fastest combo I found and it's that way even with no OCing so why wouldn't I go with it?
Also having this ASUS board let me know that not only MSI has issues with their nF2 chipset build because I've had to jump thru many hoops for various things with the ASUS board too...most of their problems are with the dual onboard network cards and memory issues which isn't really different than any of the other mfg's out there...I like to tinker with as much of this stuff as I can to see if it's one mfg or all of them and imho and from my tests it's NOT just MSI having this problem it's all of them...
What I said about Kingston has been their norm for years now...I used to own a computer store and they ALWAYS back out when they have issues...it's their way cause it's easier on them than having to actually fix something it seems...I don't like them and probly never will because of my experiences with them in the past...this is just my opinion and take it for what it's worth...
ALSO, if you had read my sticky post at the top of the forum you'd see that I recommend that you DO NOT follow MSI's recommended memory list as it could have been that they got a batch of modules that actually did work in the 1 or 2 boards that they tested them in...batches of memory differ highly in specs and those lists mean nothing to me when I buy memory anymore...gets me in the ballpark and nothing else...so take them with a grain of salt because NOTHING in electronics is absolute...parametric differences of electronic parts can leave you scratching your head for days when you just KNOW that something should work...it's the way it is...
My background in electronics is quite extensive starting with my DeVRY degree thru Guidance & Control Systems for Jets and Missiles to Memory Testers & VLSI testers used to test Intel/AMD CPU's and the memory we use in these beasts that we love to play with so much...
I've seen so much crap happen over the years I'm here hoping that I can help everyone and learn some stuff myself on the way...
Cheers!! 8)

Questions about K7N2 Delta-ILSR

I am planning to buy a K7N2 Delta-ILSR motherboard, so I have a few questions about it.
Firstly, I would like to know which the max FSB the motherboard can handle is. )
Secondly, which are the available multiplier numbers?
Furthermore, i would like to know if the K7N2 Delta-ILSR version has standard the MCP2-T chip. In advance I would like to know, if it supports the SoundstormTM technology
Thanks

madsteeve1,
1) I have seen people running over 425Mhz.
2) Download the manual and check the BIOS Revisions for that answer
3) The -ILSR Boards have Soundstorm.
Take Care,
Richard

BIOS settings for a AMD 2100+ in K7N2 Delta ILSR

Hi can some one tell me what i set the bios settings too for a AMD 2100+ and PC3200 DDR ram in the bios of a K7N2 Delat ILSR.
I dont want to over clock the system just run it at the stock speeds.
Cheers

set FSB to 133 and FSB/Dram ratio to 1:1 you will be underclocking your ram but you will get more peformance running in sync

Someone plz help me with my k7n2 delta-ilsr

Hey everyone,
I just put my sytem togother and ran into a problem. I got the system to boot up just fine. It was not until I tried installing windows xp proffesional that I ran into problems. The installation process runs pretty smoothly, until the computer reboots to run windows for the first time. After it reboots the windows logo appears and the after 2 seconds or so, a blue screen appears saying that windows was shut down to prevent any damage to my computer. I have never encountered this problem before when I built other systems. The screen suggests that I should check my HDD's for viruses or check to see if they are configured correctly. The HDD's are SATA and I have them set up in RAID 0 mode and yeah I installed the RAID drivers during the installation process. Thinking that I had made mistake setting up the SATA drives, tried installing windows using a regular IDE hard drive and it gave the same message. I am stumped anybody have any ideas of what I might be doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated . My system specs are below.
MSI k7n2 delta-ilsr mobo
AMD 3000+ Athlon XP cpu (333 fsb)
ATI Raedon 9000 ( I know it's crappy , I'm still saving up for the ATI all in wonder 9800 )
x1 kingston 512mb pc3200 DIMM
x2 maxtor 80gb maxtor hdd's
x1 regular cd-rom drive
x1 floppy drive
420w raidmax psu
(+3.3v = 26A, +5v = 32A, +12v=13A)

Memory that comes with timing of 5 2 2 2 or 6 2 2 2 or usally winbond BH-5 memory chips. Ones with 5 3 2 2 or CH-5 winbond chips. The BH-5 chips overclock a little better than the CH-5. (Muskin uses BH-5 winbond in there black ram)
Winbond is no longer making BH-5 chips but is going to make a limited run of them as demend is high for them.
The first number shown here is the Traz and it controls the flush timing bench testing is showing that a higher number of 9, 10 or 11 or getting better bench results than the 6 or 5. Thats with Dual Channel memory.
The timing you show probly should be something like 8 3 3 3 or 8 3 3 2.5 unless it is there faster Dual channel ram.
The timing numbers can also appear like this 2 2 2 5 the high number is the Traz either way.
Look on your memory manufactor web site for the timing that if should run at also look at the voltage as this can make a big differance.

K7N2 D-ILSR over Abit's NF7-S? Convince me!

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