K7N2 D ISLR. SO!! It was the pesky PSU after all! Jeantech users look in.

Well, further down the board I made a thread about having graphics problems.
I went through a load of messing about and trouble shooting.
In the end I thought it was the monitors....
Not completly happy with this explanation I took my K7N2 Delta Islr back to the retailers who went through a load of messing about to discover the cause of the problem.
Turns out it was that old favourite of The MSI world after all...the PSU.
Iwas lazy and went to my local PC World and got myself a Jeantech 500w. It says it's going to give you 18 amps at +12v but it doesn't....so don't waste your time or cash guys.
I've now got myself CWT PSU with 24amps at +12. It has done me proud here
So the moral of the story is... Don't get lazy or cheap with your PSU, you'll only have to go back and get yourself a proper PSU.
I'm sorry if anyone has been led down the wrong path by my previous thread's conclusion, for me.
Mods, Would it be possible to have a list of proven PSU's that people have used? It might prove pretty usefull for other power supply sufferers.
Cheers guys.

Aaahh, another fine example of people like us not listening to the forum moderators...
Don't feel too bad, here is my example of "problems" with my build in which I didn't listen either:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=48229&sid=
As far as a list of PSU's; I believe throughout the forum, everyone praises Enermax and Antec. So for a relieable PSU, I would stick to that brand or look at others' Sigs to see what is working for them.
Enjoy your pc, I am glad you got it running proper. Now that mine is trouble free, I know that I am enjoying mine!

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I am not that concerned with bench marks as I do not play alot to games. I guess what I am asking is the fx cards more compatible also if I do get kingston ddr400 should I get 2 256 stcks or one 512 stick?
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