K7N2-Delta, 6600gt 8x speed freezes in games

Just upgraded my 5700 ultra to a 6600gt, and I am now getting random freezes when playing games, More often when overclocked, I have tried all kinds of fixes, like disabling fastwrites, driver cleaner, a number of differant driver versions, have tried card in another system with no problems, increased agp voltage, reduced cpu overclocks to default speeds, the only thing that has any affect is running it at 4x agp speed, but I would like it to be running at 8x speed, like it was design to. could this be a compatability problem with my motherboard?.
Core temps are 40c at idle, 68 under load, Any ideas please

Hello,
Clear your CMOS for 10 minutes.
Move the CMOS jumper to the clear position when the PC is off.
Leave it there for 10mins
Move the jumper back to the default position
Power the PC and rry reinstalling windows + quick format.
Install in this order,
SP2 <if its not part of the CD
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en
Nvidia chipset drivers
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_winxp_5.10.html
GFX card drives
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_81.85.html
Also make sure your GFX card have a power connector plugged in if it requires one.
If this does not work, if might be the power supply.
Or a compatibility issue.

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2d games are jerky (K7N2 Delta-L)

Hello!
Is anyone else having this same problem: I recently bought this new MSI K7N2 Delta-L motherboard and my 2d games started to jerk?
I can't anymore play my favourite game Worms World Party on this machine because It's unplayable jerky.
I updated my motherboard from ECS K7S5A but it seemed to be a bad choice. Before the Upgrade my Worms used to run smooth like a dream.
I have all the latest drivers and bios updates.
I have tried many different display adapters (NVidia/ATI) but nothing seems to help. Always the same thing.
I can't believe my machine runs worms nowadays slower than 233MHz AMD K-6 machine with unbelievable slow graphics card.
At least 3d games run fine, even though I don't like 'em.
I wonder if anyone has a solution for this annoying problem?
Machine specs:
AMD Athlon XP 1600+
MSI K7N2 Delta-L
1024MB 366MHz DDR (dual channel)
Ati Radeon 9100 128MB
Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum
Windows XP Professional
-- Force Keeper (Never again NVidia chipsets)

Raven_
Yea I emailed your last fix notice to Glennvidia today...sorry I'm not able to keep up with it lately...business is good and it's growing again...
Forcekeeper
My ram is 2 x 512MB Kingston KVR333X64C25/512
( I said my memory speed incorrectly earlier )
Kingston is risky at best with these motherboards...it works for some but not for most ppl...
My PSU is Q Technology 300W
3.3V = 28A
5V = 30A
12V = 15A
This motherboard is power hungry and a QTec PSU isn't going to hack it...you need to upgrade it badly...
I didn't install the windows drivers before I installed the ATI drivers. And I have System Restore turned Off.
BTW my ATi card is built by Sapphire. I have also tested ATI All in Wonder (Built by ATI) - same thing.
Sapphire cards caused issues early on with these motherboards...I don't recall MSI ever releasing a fix for their bootup initiation issue...I'm not thinking that this is the worst of your problems tho...memory and PSU are your worst issues atm...
My Windows XP has Service Pack 2, v.2149 (Also tested with Service Pack 1)
This won't matter at all...SP1 or 2 shouldn't have any bearing on your problems...unless of course they didn't start until you installed SP2...which is still in beta form just so you know...
I will test without sound card now. And then maybe reinstall all the drivers.
I don't think the Creative card is your problem as yet either altho I could be wrong...I would leave it out of the fray until you solve the other issues...
All in all you need a new supply first before you can go forward...then if you still have issues I would chase the memory...then I'd worry about the maker of video card, sound card then SP2 in that order...
Good luck!!

K7N2 Delta random shutoff

my K7N2 delta randomly shutsoff whenever playing 3D games or doing CPU intensive activities. I have to reset the PSU to get the computer to turn back on....what could be the problem?
i have BIOS 5.2, and my video card is a Radeon 9600 Pro 128
i have posted this in other forums also sorry if u had to read it twice...

Could you list the FULL specs of your machine plz? Give MFG names, part numbers, PSU specs (3,5 & 12v amps)...
This will help us help you...
You could have non-nForce2 approved memory, PSU that isn't providing enuff amps for all that you have in your system (whatever that may be) or a multitude of other issues including cooling issues...
We need more info here to go on...
Cheers!! 8)

System Freeze Microstar MS-K7N2-DELTA

Hello!
I Resently abandoned ny "ol' faithfull' PIII600 for a more gaming-friendly system (full spec. below). I assembled the system myself so here I am
THE PROBLEM:
System freezes from time to time:
* System froze a couple of times during installaion of Windows. I had to run the installation program a few times before complete installation.
* Almost never when surfing (as am i doing right now).
* System always freezes during ADAWARE- or NORTON AV-scans, but never at the same spot.
* It also always freezes during 3DMARK 2001 Very seldom during Counter-strike but often in Jedi Knight or Judge Dredd.
* System every now and then when watching AVI-movies
THE SOLUTION:
Oh please provide me with one. I'd hate to scrap my new 1500$-system and go back to Ol' Faithfull.
Best regards
Peter
SYSTEM-----------------------------------------------------------------------
General:   Operating system, BIOS, Mainboard driver and GFX drivers
are uppdated to the latest versions.
OP:       Windows XP Professional En-OEM SP1 (Boots from SATA RAID 0)
Mainboard:    Microstar MS-K7N2-DELTA
CPU:       AMD Athlon XP 3200+ 400 MHz
Memory:     DIMM 1: 512 Mb Apacer DDRAM PC3200 CL3
      DIMM 2: (empty)
      DIMM 3: 512 Mb Apacer DDRAM PC3200 CL3
GFX:       Terratec Mystify Geforce FX 5900 Ultra (256 Mb)
SATA RAID 0:    2x120 Gb Maxtor DiamondMax9 (SATA/150, Boot drive)
IDE 1:       Master: 120 Gb Maxtor DiamondMax9 (ATA/133)
      Slave: 120 Gb Maxtor DiamondMax9 (ATA/133)
IDE 2:      Master: CDRW Sony CRX210E
      Slave: 80 GB Maxtor DiamondMax Plus D740X (ATA/133)
Floppy:      Samsung 1.44 Mb
PSU:      Antec Truepower 480W (5V/38A, 12V/22A, 3.3V/30A)
BIOS ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES ---------------------------------------------
System performance: Auto
CPU FSB Clock: 200 Mhz
x CPu Interface: Normal
x FSB/DRAM Ratio: By SPD
Current DRAM Clock: 200 MHz
x Memory Timings: By SPD
x T-(RAS): 8
x T-(RCD): 4
x T-(RP): 4
x CAS Latency: 3.0
FSB Spread Spectrum: Disabled
AGP Spread Spectrum: Disabled
AGP 8x Support: Enabled
AGP Fast Write Support: Enabled
System BIOS Cacheable: Disabled
Video RAM Cacheable: Disabled
AGP Aperture Size: 128 M
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Originally posted by Bonz
Dunno Raven...they support this one for now but they don't house the servers that it runs on anymore and their "Webmaster/Forum Tinkerer" has no access to it either...that's why it seems to work these days...heheheh It still does have the occasional glitch at times tho...not nearly as bad as it was *shudders at the memories of days past*
LMAO
i get to an error page in 1 on 500 or something.
only press reload button and i get the page.
only wish i had a better internet connection as it takes me 10-180 seconds to load a page.

USB2 devices not functioning to USB2 speeds on K7N2 Delta-L

Dear all,
Before i get the "Use search" button, i have and done it practically all day trying to find a solution.
My system: MSI K7N2 Delta-L, running on Windows XP service pack 2
4 USB ports at back panel, 2 USB ports on the D-Bracket (where there is a High Speed sticker on it)
All USB ports front or back "work" but not any allow me to use a USB2 enabled device to make it function at its designated speed.
An example is: Transfer of a 20MB file takes 25seconds... ludicrous for a newly bought Kingston 1GB USB2 complaint flash drive.
I have read the stickys, i am certain the USBOC is not connected by any wiring, the manual in K7N2 already stated that, my BIOS is at the latest version, my system is functioning correctly, no IRA conflicts by checking through device manager.
http://www.apxc57.dsl.pipex.com/Connections.JPG
This shows that the USB2 Kingston device does not get routed to the Enhanced host controller, i do not know why, please let me know if you know!
http://www.apxc57.dsl.pipex.com/Front%20USB%20unplugged.JPG
A better view...
Standard Enhanced PCI to USB host controller - I'm not as certain to understand what this means. Does it mean that my board ONLY supports the Enhanced USB IF i purchase a PCI card that has USB2 ports on it??? And it means that ALL 6 of my ports onboard (including the D-bracket) are all Open HCD..........
I honestly have searched everywhere and there is NO definitive solution to this problem i'm having yet, MUCH MUCH appreciated if anyone can give a guiding light.....please !!!
THANKS VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE...

Interesting update... here:
I've been thinking about what everyone said here, so i was questioning whether this Kingston USB2 device is really USB2 standards.
Please take a look at here: http://scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=245123
That is the actual product and where i got it from, please just take a quick nip at the specifications.."Super Hi-Speed 24MB/sec"
As you know, i have the MSI D-Bracket 2, the exact image is found here: http://www.modsynergy.com/Modsynergy%20files/MSI-5.jpg
You can see from that image, that it clearly displays a "High speed, certified USB" from the red/blue logo.
A description that distinguishes between "High speed, certified USB" from "Certified USB" can be found here: http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm
Near to the lower end of the page.
Now... interestingly i now notice the back cover of the USB2 Kingston drive in which it was concealed in, take a look here:
http://www.apxc57.dsl.pipex.com/KINGSTON.jpg
Cast your attention to the Red Circle i have done. It doesn't say High speed certified, it just says Certified USB.
SO, let me quote from "What are USB Hi-Speed and USB Basic Speed logos? These logos are part of USB Promoter Group?s branding program that ensures the quality of USB products. The USB 2.0 certified products would display a blue, white and red logo, bearing the words ?Certified? and ?Hi-Speed.? The classic USB 1.1 certified products would display a black and white logo with the words ?USB? and Certified.?"
If my USB2 kingston device is really USB2 and support the 24Mb/sec transfer rate, the box should in fact have a high speed logo not a black/white one correct???
Thanks for reading, i'll get in touch with the supplier i think... probaly RMA come saturday.

K7N2 Delta: frequent Tone freeze

Quick Overview of system
K7N2 Delta
400 Watt power supply
2500+ Barton
512 Pc 2700
128 radeon 9500 pro
Audigy 2 ZS
The problem started when i realized that the motherboard i bought didn't support the 4.1(5.1). I needed the higher end version. So i go out and buy a sound card (one listed above) that does support it and it started just to lock up with a high pitched squeal after a random period of time. The squeal happens in anything with sound (music games etc.)
Total lockup. I've tried everything. reformats with new drivers on sound cards and the motherboard. Im stumped. Any had a similar problem and fixed it?
-Thanks

The K7N2 Delta does have support for 5.1. But there is a better audio driver than the nforce one to enable this feature. Just download it at Realtek site:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlac97-2.aspx?lineid=5&famid=12&series=8&Software=True
Maybe you could change this audigy 2 you bought for something else more usefull.

K7N2 Delta lock ups

Hi there,
I've got a MSI k7N2 Delta sitting in my PC atm. But with a nasty problem. I have to keep the cpu sitting in it (AMD Barton 3000) underclocked for me to use my PC for more then 40 mins at a time. After that time, it just freezes, and the sound card (not system speaker) emits a nasty high pitched sound. Using a more intensive game, i.e. planetside speeds up the process, somethimes running for a mere 5 mins. To use the pc atm, the cpu is clocked at 1.4Ghz, instead of the over 2ghz it should be at.
Any suggestions anyone?
Specs:
K7N2 Delta
AMD Barton 3000+
512Mb Kingston DDR (on compatibilty list)
ATI Radeon 7500
SB! 128
Antec 400Watt PSU

ok, after some more testing (man i love CS ) it still locks up, but it took longer initially. It now just freezes, with no beeeep from the sound card. It may be temperature related though, as after the intial freeze, it will now only take a few minutes before it does it again. Straight after it freezes I'm getting temperature of around 50 on all monitors.
Ill whip out that TV card and give it a whirl now
p.s. case fans, i think one is in the wrong way, is the spinny side supposed to facing in the case, or out the case? cheers

K7N2 DELTA2 + 6600GT veyr slow frame rates...

Hi!
I just bought a Gigabyte 6600GT (I upgrade from a fx5700 Ultra) and I`m using it with a MSI K7N2 Delta 2 and I getting slow frame rates using old games like Formula 1 2002. The extrange thing is that I use to play that game at full 60 fps with the old 5700 with fsaa4x (I saw similar sysconfigs in my friends pcs with relatively good speed)... Also I upgrade my PSU to an nspire 450w true power. I used a lot of combination of nforce/forceware drivers with fresh installs but nothing. The only speed up that I got is in benchmarks, for example Aquamark3 before (5700U): 29230, Aquamark After (6600GT) 45000, 3dmark03 before: 3200, after: 7800, pcmark05 after: 2100, before: 2992. I`ll try a modded bios that I found here at the forums.
Any suggestions???
Here my sys specs:
MSI k7n2delta2-LSR
AthlonXP 2800+ (2083Mhz)
1x512 Kingston Value Ram
Gigabyte 6600GT AGP
Maxtor 80GB and 60GB
nSpire 450w True Power PSU

A bit off: What are your temps? I'm interested, only.
A bit on:
http://www.bluebonepc.com/catalog/detail.asp?id=PS-NP-450
+5V 40A
-5V 0.5A
+12V 20A
-12V 0.8A
+3.3V 28A
+5VSB 2.0A
Power Supply Connectors Motherboard: 1 x 20pin CPU: 1 x 4pin Hard drives: 6 + 1 SATA Floppy Drive: 2

Data corruption on MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR

Hi all,
Just got my new MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR up and running.
Got some issues with the memory running at 200mhz while the Barton core of my Athlon Xp 2600+ was running 166mhz, this had to be 1:1 (thx forum )
While running the default bios settings with cpu/mem at 166/166 fsb everything is stable as hell. I have been running Prime95 for 2 days now and using the system for dvd ripping/encoding, UT2004 gaming etc.
Then the overclocking began I'm using the standard AMD cooler that came with my boxed Xp2600+ so I didn't expect an FSB of 200mhz.
I stopped at an FSB of 190mhz...been crunching Prime95 for 18 hours now and again very stable.
Now comes the problem : Sometimes I get crc errors when installing a game or decrypting a dvd!! But how can this be? Prime95 is stable at this 190fsb overclock.
When using an FSB of 166mhz no data corruption or crc errors.
What can this be? It's not the cables because they're all the same as in my old setup which was running (ahum...walking) stable. PCI/AGP speeds are locked when overclocking...
Only thing I can think of is the power supply. I've read in a warning post from Bas that the Q-Tec 550w psu I have is crap. So my guess is PSU, but maybe it's something else I'm forgetting...Any suggestions??
The stupid thing is when I'm not overclocking I don't have the data corruption problems, but I'm still using the same crappy Q-Tec 550w PSU.
Help!
gr,
Remco

Hmmm, that's curious. On the MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR product page Kingston memory is recommended
Ok, did a Memtest86 v1.11 pass at cpu/dimm 166/166 - no problems whatsoever. I think using Prime95 would have revealed memory problems...but will do another pass with cpu/dimm at 190/190.
Can overclocking affect the Promise Raid Controller?? It should be locked like the PCI/AGP but who knows...
Well, I still have to replace my PSU but I'm not 100% sure that this is the problem. What PSU would you recommend? ...and I'm also thinking about replacing the standard CPU cooler, any advice is welcome
gr,
Remco

MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR Memory problems

I'm trying to burn in a system in a 50 deg C (122 deg F) room for a minimum of 12 hours. The main system components are as follows:
Motherboard: MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2800+
Memory: 2x512 OCZ PC3200 EL
My problem is that the burn-in software continues to freeze up during the memory test. I've already contacted the software manufacturers and the software is stable. It's a problem with the way the motherboard handles the memory. I've tried putting the memory in dual channel configuration and changing the timing settings in the BIOS. The SPD settings are 2.5-3-3-7. Right now I have them at 3-4-3-8. It's a lot more stable than it was under the default settings but it still freezes up sometime after 7 hours. Unfortunately, I wasn't around when it froze so I don't know exactly how long it lasted. I can say that after 7 hours, it wasn't showing any slowdown in performance. If anyone could think of anything else I might be able to do to get the system stable, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for the suggestions. The CPU FSB is 200, so it's already matched up there. And we have a ton of fans already. There are two in the front, 4 inside and 1 on the back. It's a custom case, 2u high. The power supply is oversized and more than adequate to provide the required power. I have four of these units running right now. Two with 2x512 sticks and two with 1x1024 sticks. For each combination, the memory clock speed for one is 166 and 200 for the other. I have been loosening up the memory timings trying to get the system stable, but it still isn't. If the power supply is good, and I'm unable to cool the system anymore due to limititions within the case, is there anything you can think of to stabilize the system. Maybe other settings in the BIOS or suggestions on how to go about getting good timings for the memory. Thanks.

MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR Dead? Help!

Hey all,
Well, the other day I was on my computer playing a game when my mobo fan started making an odd noise (as if switching rpm), so I took off the side of my case and took a look inside. Everything seemed to be functioning properly, then I switched my cpu fan speed via the pci slot speed control. As I switched from High-Medium-Low, I noticed that the fan actually slowed to the point where I could see the blades spinning, at least for a second or so. I found that rather odd, seeing as how I've never seen a fan (especially a cpu fan) slow to the point that I could see the blades spin. Anyway, a couple of hours later, I shut down and went to sleep.
The next day I had my comp on for about maybe 30mins to an hour or so when suddenly I heard an alarm from the computer speaker, so I was like, ":censored:?" since I had never heard it before. It was evidently the temperature warning, which I had set to 70C. So I shut down within 15 seconds and opened up the side of my case.
I noticed that the cpu fan wasn't moving at all (usually I'd open the case in time to see the spin-down). So I turned the computer back on and the fan didn't budge, so I immediately powered down, assuming that the CPU Fan had died. Later on, I hooked the fan itself up to a free power cord in my sister's computer and booted up, along with the speed controller, flipping from medium to high to low without any problems.
I then did screwed the fan back to the heatsink in my comp and booted up. I went into the bios an noticed that the rpm was 8k, which is way too high for my fan (normally 5k). So i began switching from high, medium, to low once again, then I saw that the rpm reader in the bios went to 0. So I looked back in the side of my case and saw that the cpu fan was once again dead. At this point I concluded that it was the fan and was about to order the Volcano 12.
A day later I placed the fan inside my sister's computer on a free cord, yet again, and yet again, it worked fine.
I once again put it in my computer to test and this time it worked fine, even while switching between speeds. Unfortunately, I then noticed that the mobo fan was not moving, then began to move.
Well, I'm guessing now that it's simply the motherboard that has a short, since both the motherboard fan as well as the cpu fan have randomly been dying the past few days. The motherboard fan; however, has switched rpm many times in the past from 5k to 3k.
It could also be a PSU problem, but I have Antec 400watt psu and it's been working fine for the past 2 years, so I doubt it. I've had the motherboard for a little over a year. I upgraded my cpu from 2200+ to 3000+ in July. That's also when I bought the cpu fan. The motherboard fan began fluctuating in rpm noticeably back in April or May of this year.
Yesterday, I used the computer again and had it on for about 2 hours or so and I had speedfan monitoring the temps and the rpm. The temps stayed relatively stable: 48 cpu, 44 mobo.
But alas, the RPMs were totally [blame me for the swear filter] up. At one point, both the mobo and cpu fan speeds were reading 0, even though both continued to spin within the case and the temps remained the same. Then after 30mins or so, they cpu fan began reading again at 40,000-42,000rpm, which is obviously incorrect, seeing as the fan is rated for around 5k. I got/get the same readings in the bios, both fans reading at 0rpm as they continue to physically spin.
Also, during a number of times that I've started up the comp within the past few days, the motherboard northbridge fan wasn't spinning at all and didn't begin to until a few minutes into my windows session.
Also, I took out the NB fan and noticed a slight crack in the back of it.
I was considering simply just buying the Volcano 12 and the MSI K7N2 Delta2 Platinum rather than RMAing the mobo. Then perhaps an Antec 550W psu, if necessary.
Any ideas what I should replace and in which order? And has anybody else encountered any similar problems with this mobo (at least with the mobo rpm, which has been a prob for about 6months on and off)?
I bought the mobo along with a 2200+ in July of 2003. I upgraded the ram from 256 to 512 in April 2004 (which is around the time I started hearing rpm probs with the mobo fan) and I upgraded the cpu in July of 2004
Many Thanks!
My Specs are as follows:
Windows XP Professional SP1
Antec SX1040B2 File Server Case
400watt Antec PSU
MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR
AMD Athlon XP 3000+ (2.17GHz)
Thermaltake TR2 M2 HSF
Kingston 256MB of PC2700 DDR-333MHz RAM
Generic 256MB of PC2700 DDR-333MHz RAM
ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro
Sound Blaster Audigy 2ZS Platinum
Pioneer 10x DVD Drive
Sony 8x Double Layer DVD-+RW
Western Digital 120.0GB 7200RPM HD ATA/100
Western Digital 120.0GB 7200RPM HD ATA/100
nForce Ethernet Adapter w/Cable line
Logitech MX500 Optical Mouse
Logitech Elite Keyboard
19" Envision Monitor EN985e
Logitech Z-680 5.1 Speakers

Could be a fluctuating PSU that's breaking down power to the MB. You have a whole lot of components dragging that PSU down. With what you have in your rig I would run either an Antec or Enermax 550W. Best way to be sure is to borrow a PSU or buy one from a store with a good return policy so that you can return it if indeed it turns out to be the MB. If I don't have your board here on my bench to test the only thing I can suggest to you is to swap out components unfortunately.

K7N2 Delta Onboard Sound Disable Question

I have a K7N2 Delta motherboard with a MSI FX5600 256MB DDR video card. I am currently using the onboard audio. Ever since I first built this computer I have been having nearly every game I play on it lock up and freeze. I am thinking that it is a sound issue that is causing this problem, so I want to install a Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live. I have several questions that I hope someone can answer as I have exhausted all avenues and still don't have any answers. Here are my questions:
1. How do I disable the onboard sound? ie Which jumper is it and what are the
jumper settings?
2. Which PCI slot is recommended for installing the sound card so that I won't
any IRQ conflicts?
3. Is this actually an audio problem or is there something else wrong with this
motherboard or video card?
This is becoming very frustrating because when the computer locks up all I can do is just reset without shutting down. I'm becoming more and more worried that if this continues unabated I'm going to crash the hard drive and have to replace it only to have the problem persist. I hope someone can give me specific answers to my questions. Thank you in advance for your help.

First. Is it K7N2 Delta-L or Delta-ILSR (the one with an actual Soundstorm chip on it)? If you have the actual Soundstorm chip, use it! It will sound much better than an SBLive. Assuming you have the normal K7N2 Delta-L like I have:
1. To disable the onboard sound, first uninstall the drivers for it, then you need to go into the BIOS by holding the Delete key while you boot up. Then find the section "Integrated Peripherals" and in that section "Onboard Devices". Press Enter and find AC97 Audio and disable it. There are no jumpers.
2. PCI slots 1, 2 and 3 are usually not shared with other stuff like you AGP or USB ports. PCI Slot 3 is the ideal choice. 1 is usually covered by your video card fan anyway. For the SBLive, on Windows XP/2000, get the newest drivers from Creative Labs. The file is named "LiveDrvUni-Pack(ENG).exe" and it's file size is 23.3 MB (24,451,404 bytes). They have fixed the "nforce2 + gameport incompatibility".
3. The problem may be audio related...or not. Which drivers are/were you using for your onboard audio? nvidia or Realtek? Actual Soundstorm chip or crappy software codec? It could also be video card related. Fastwrites? 8x or 4x AGP?

K7N2 Delta (ILSR) incompatible with 200FSB?

Is the K7N2 Delta (Nforce2 Chipset) incompatible with 200FSB??... Ive seen many problems when trying to upgrade the CPU, and use a 200FSB in various forums. So, why does it keep hanging/crashing?? Might it be not really supported even though it specify it does?

From most of the posts I've been reading about this issue, the users are trying to build their systems using Value RAM from various manufacturers such as Kingston or Corsair among others...this just isn't a reality anymore in the high speed world of components...the Delta boards require a lot of power and high speed memory nowadays and a lot of the users are just unaware of these facts...
Part time builders are the most susceptible to this as they build a system every few years and think that all of the 'old' rules apply to their situation...what 'should' be isn't anymore as we continue to design and produce faster products that require faster peripherals to support them...
Getting away cheaply has been designed out of most systems and this really stems from the CPU mfg's and how MB designers have to approach BUS speeds and the like...
CDM has it right that you need to dip a little deeper these days for good QUALITY memory and peripheral items to ENSURE that when you build your new PC that you minimize these issues from the get go...if not then you're going to have a good run at testing this RAM or that RAM to find one that is cheap and will still have the speed capability to keep up with your high end MB & components...
Apacer is a good example of this...they're moderately priced and they perform very well in the sandbox with most applications that you set before them...overclocking them can lead you down a problematic path but overall they're pretty flexible from what I've seen...
Most of us here know that Mushkin is pretty infallable and will take pretty much whatever is thrown at their modules...if not calling their CS dept gets you the kind of help that most companies only dream about providing...
All in all the 'line' has risen and it will rise again and you'll see a rash of users that will complain that "This should do what I want it to do" but as is most always the case, you'll find that they're trying to build an underpowered system that requires fast peripheral components and a lot of them just aren't willing to dish out the cash required for a great white box system...
Yes I agree that it's a scam from the companies to force us to spend more of our hard earned dollars but that is the way of the world now, albeit that it's unfortunate...if you're really good at building systems tho, you'll find that you can usually come up with a pretty mid-range priced system that will blaze thru all the latest games but that only comes with buying components to play trial & error with...much like I used to do in my Computer Store years ago...these days I don't do much of that, I just buy the good stuff and save my time...

K7N2 Delta ILSR Takes forever to boot.

Specs:
K7N2 Delta ILSR Mobo
Athlon xp 2500
Kingston Hyper X 2700 DDR 512mb (its on the list)
Geforce 2MX 32mb AGP videocard (I dont play games)
3 Com 56k Win Modem
IBM GXP120 60 gig ata133 Hard drive
Pine 12X DVD drive
LG 24x10x48 CD Burner
Antec 300W power supply
The problem is that it takes forever to install and boot windows with faster processors for some reason. I origianlly built this system with my old Athlon 1.33 and it had these problems. I then tried a 900mhz athlon and it worked great, so I figured I damaged my 1.33 somehow. I ordered a 2500+ and a zalmann cpu cooler and now am back to where I was, when the system starts it seems very unstable and the screen goes blank for 10 minutes while its booting. It shows about 3 seconds of the starting windows screen then the screen will go blank for a while anf there will be no hard drive activity then it will come back about 10 minutes later and then boot. Sometimes the system will work fine then sometimes I cant even open my computer i just get the searching flashlight icon where my drives should be. I have updated to the lastet BIOS. Also while installing windows I get ocasional long pauses where it is doing nothing at all then it will just magically conitnue and do it in a fashion I would expect a machine of this speed to do.

Hmm not sure about the cable position on the CD drives, ill have to check that when I get home. All the jumpers are set correcly, and the hard drive is all by itself and its on the right connector. Thanks for the ideas, this problem is really killing me, I havent had these kind of hardware problems in years. The thing I dont get is why it works good with the 900mhz and not with the 1.33 or 2500+

K7N2 Delta ILSR and XP2500+ - strange overclocking problem

Relevant configuration data:
- K7N2 Delta ILSR (with 7.6 BIOS version)
- Barton 2500+ (AQXEA)
- Arctic Silver 3 thermal compound
- GlobalWin CAK 38 (7000 rpm DELTA, all copper)
- 2x512 MB Corsair XMS cmx512 3200c2 (it should run 6-3-3-2 at 200MHz on AMD systems according to older documents, and on 6-3-3-2.5 at 200MHz on AMD systems according to newer documents)
- PSU Enermax EG465P-VE (430W)
- Gigabyte ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
- Battlefield 1942 game
I have 2 seperate problems:
1. When I try to set my proc on 13x166 (Barton XP3000+) BIOS won't recognise that settings and it gives me real-clock rate of 833MHz (and no name, just "Athlon XP"). Just a note, when I set proc to be XP2600 or XP2800, everything is great in BIOS and in real conditions (Windows, Battlefield). I had 7.4 version of BIOS and I tried with new 7.6 version and nothing has changed (as I suspected). Can someone help me about this ?
2. Second problem is a bit more serious.
I'm having problems setting my proc to work with 100% stability on 200MHz FSB speed.
This is what's going on:
- Behaviour in Windows is pretty much good (no random restarts).
- Sometimes (on rare occasions) blues screen appears when I'm in windows or some program. Last time when it appeared it said something about "memory managment". I tried to lower memory settings but nothing seemed to be better.
- If I try to freshly install windows on 200 MHz FSB in 98% of the cases installation will be abrupted (blue screen or resets) or it won't even start to install.
- What's bothering me the most is this: Battlefield 1942 is crashing on regular basis. Sometimes it can hold for 5 minutes, sometimes 20 minutes, sometimes half an hour. But on certain moment, puff, and I'm out in Windows. Not a computer restart, just it throws me on desktop.
I've been checking the temperature on regular basis when I'm playing. It is always low.
I've tried to raise core voltage all the way to 1.8v, but same thing happens.
I've tried to lower memory settings, but I get same BF crashing.
I don't know what else to do or what other component to acuse for instability.
Can somebody please help me ?
Thank you in advance !

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Originally posted by ellswt
On the newer 2500+'s the multiplier is locked, this could be your problem
Nope, because I am changing multiplyers without probs. The only multiplyer that doesn't work is 13x.
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...loosen up your memory timings to add stability, and give it a try again at the 200 mhz fsb without changing the multiplier.
I drove the memory according to the Corsair's specs, and I drove it on lower settings also. No change.
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also you may wish to go up to 2.7 volts for your ram, and 1.7 volts on your processor to add stability, remember sometimes you have to go up gradually a step or two at a time and keep it there for a day or two before you reach your top OC.
I might try upping ram voltage but that doesn't sound good, because it IS DDR 400 memory (an excellent one too !).
It's not like I'm trying to drive it over 200MHz. 200MHz is this memory's normal frequency.
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Newest video driver from ATI may help with the stability on your gaming.
Already have newest drivers.
Anyway, thanks for the tips !

K7N2-Delta, 6600gt 8x speed freezes in games

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