K7N2 DELTA+default vcore on XP2500 ????

I have a K7N2 Delta board with an XP2500 with 2 512 Geil GD 3200 modules, I have a question I am trying to overclock and I have set the vcore manually to 1.65 which I thought was the stock voltage for these chips.  However when I go into windows it is telling me it is set to 1.7 ??  Any ideas on this as i need to set it manually to 1.65 to get stability at 10 x 200.  Also any ideas how you lcok the PCI bus on these boards I think i have done it but am not 100%

The Nforce 2 chipset already has AGP/PCI lock so no worry there.  The Defualt Vcore is 1.65v but the board tend to stick on Vcore so reset CMOS and try again.  The K7N2 boards jump in Volts so go under PC Health in bios to check

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    Originally posted by ellswt
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    Originally posted by Wonkanoby
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