K7N2 Delta ILSR won't turn off, just restarts

K7N2 Delta ILSR won't turn off, just restarts. Every time I click on "Turn off computer" in Windows XP, it shuts down, but restarts again. Could this be OS related, or perhaps Bios related. My other machine, almost identical to this one, except that the other machine has BIOS rev 7.6 and this one 7.2.

PSUs seem to be yr favorite subject, but I'm afraid this time it's software. I experimented some more as the problem only occured after installing the Nvidia drivers. Comparing the system settings in the device manager before installing drivers and after installing them, reveils that the problem shows up when AGP HOST TO PCI BRIDGE is installed. When killing this item the PC shuts off properly. Unfortunately when turning back on, Windows automatically reinstalls the PCI bridge and I have the problem again. LOOKS LIKE A MSI SOFTWARE PROBLEM !
By the way I have a PCI graphics board and not AGP in the failing PC (the good one has AGP graphics).
Now what?
R.

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The M/B BIOS detects the FDD and Seagate Parallel drives correctly but when a correctly formatted XP boot disc (or Mandrake Linux or Caldera DR-DOS) is placed in the floppy drive a "no system disk" error is given.
When you F6 to install RAID drivers in the Windows XP install and the screen comes up where you are prompted to insert the floppy there is no mass storage device detected.
I purchased a new FDD and it gives precisely the same error as the original.
I installed the parallel Seagate in another system and installed and activated windows XP on it. After re-installing it in the K7N2 system I was disappointed to discover that it will not boot off the hard drive. When you boot from the XP CD the machine locks up. (Disconnecting the HD it will boot normally)
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Originally posted by Wonkanoby
is the fd light on all the time,as that means the ide type lead needs flipping 180 degrees in the back of it
is the hard drive ide 80 wire ,blue end in the board
any thing shorting under the board,an extra stand off or the like
The Fd light behaves normally. i.e. lights up when the drive is being accessed.
has anybody else noted that the FDD is B by default- That the cables have a few wires twisted like the wires between the first and second plugs on the old cables?
The IDE 80 wire(counted!) is long end in the board- my plugs are all 3 black. You can't put them in the wrong way becaue of the centre key.
All the stands are plastic except for two brass ones that are in the centre of the board that go to circular mount pads. That is how the case came and I thought it was a design feature.
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MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR, Mouse problem & Video off problem solved!!!

I find the following information that I collected very interesting at the very least...
Here goes...
The video off problem that I was having was directly linked to the mouse. Here, let me explain the video off problem. In the BIOS Have the Standby mode set to S3. The problem occurred when I started windows, then went into standby, then started back up, then restarted the computer, the monitor would act as if it were in sleep mode, or rather there was no signal being sent to the monitor. Well the odd way I fixed that is by plugging in a standard 2 button PS/2 mouse. Also this fixed the issue with the mouse sometimes not working in windows.
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Obviously it isn't the ports (PS/2 or USB) that are the problem, it is more like the mouse itself, and the amount of buttons in particular. As you can see above the only mouse that works correctly is the one that only has 2 buttons, the rest has 3 or more buttons along with a Wheel. The MX700 has 8 buttons + wheel, WOW!
Anyways I figure out it was the mouse, and not the memory.
Obviously MSI needs to make a patch for this mouse problem.
I'm still having a hard time believing that the mouse caused the video not to work, but it is true! I spend well over 5 hours testing this crap. Every time with the mice with more then 3 buttons it messed up, and every time with the 2 button old fashion mouse it worked flawlessly!
MSI, get to work on a new BIOS to fix this mess!!! :]
BioHaz

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Originally posted by Raven_
hi
its possible to use an ps/2 mouse AND a usb mouse at the same time.
i used the ps/2 mouse in windows and the usb mouse when playing games.
you can get some trouble if you do it the way i did it.
i was in windows surfing and the pointer just jumped all over the screen.
when i looked on the other side under a table a friends little kid played with the usn mouse. )
bye
LOL, that isn't what I'm talking about.
There seems to be a problem with my motherboard accepting mice with more then 2 buttons. It works the first time, but if you restart the computer, the video goes off. If you have both installed, it still messed up.
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Will the K7N2 Delta-ILSR Promise controller work with just one SATA hdd connected, I know that the silicon image controller on my Asus A7N8X-E will support just one SATA connected but will the promise chipset.
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I've also altered the advance settings so I'll be able to write down the full 0X00000000 string.
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A device driver installed on your computer caused the problem, but we cannot determine the precise cause. Depending on which situation is applicable to you, please do one of the following:
* If you are running Windows Server 2003 you may experience crashes if you have adjusted the Hardware Acceleration setting. Microsoft recommends that you set the Hardware Acceleration setting to None for server systems. To check your Hardware Acceleration setting, go to the Advanced section of the display properties dialog box.
* If you know the manufacturer of the device, contact the manufacturer's product support service for assistance.
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The next day I had my comp on for about maybe 30mins to an hour or so when suddenly I heard an alarm from the computer speaker, so I was like, ":censored:?" since I had never heard it before. It was evidently the temperature warning, which I had set to 70C. So I shut down within 15 seconds and opened up the side of my case.
I noticed that the cpu fan wasn't moving at all (usually I'd open the case in time to see the spin-down). So I turned the computer back on and the fan didn't budge, so I immediately powered down, assuming that the CPU Fan had died. Later on, I hooked the fan itself up to a free power cord in my sister's computer and booted up, along with the speed controller, flipping from medium to high to low without any problems.
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A day later I placed the fan inside my sister's computer on a free cord, yet again, and yet again, it worked fine.
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Yesterday, I used the computer again and had it on for about 2 hours or so and I had speedfan monitoring the temps and the rpm. The temps stayed relatively stable: 48 cpu, 44 mobo.
But alas, the RPMs were totally [blame me for the swear filter] up. At one point, both the mobo and cpu fan speeds were reading 0, even though both continued to spin within the case and the temps remained the same. Then after 30mins or so, they cpu fan began reading again at 40,000-42,000rpm, which is obviously incorrect, seeing as the fan is rated for around 5k. I got/get the same readings in the bios, both fans reading at 0rpm as they continue to physically spin.
Also, during a number of times that I've started up the comp within the past few days, the motherboard northbridge fan wasn't spinning at all and didn't begin to until a few minutes into my windows session.
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I was considering simply just buying the Volcano 12 and the MSI K7N2 Delta2 Platinum rather than RMAing the mobo. Then perhaps an Antec 550W psu, if necessary.
Any ideas what I should replace and in which order? And has anybody else encountered any similar problems with this mobo (at least with the mobo rpm, which has been a prob for about 6months on and off)?
I bought the mobo along with a 2200+ in July of 2003. I upgraded the ram from 256 to 512 in April 2004 (which is around the time I started hearing rpm probs with the mobo fan) and I upgraded the cpu in July of 2004
Many Thanks!
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i have never had any problems with the harddrive before i only had error when i installed this motherboard.
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K7N2 Delta-ILSR
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im running what ever drivers came with the board.... I m unsure what the versions are... I was thinking it must be the cable but i traded it out for a known good cable and it still had the same problems ... i have a feeling its the hard drive but i wanted to see if there have been any problems with the K7N2 Delta-ILSR that i didnt know about.... i guess im gonna have to low level the harddrive or some thing....
im on vacation again so when i get back ill try to replace the harddrive with one that i know works then ill see what the problem is....
i tried setting default motherboard settings... i just thought it was weird when i had been gone and the computer was off. that when i got back and turned it on everything was gone...

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Ive recently built a new system based on the K7N2 DELTA ILSR, great mobo, however my cpu temps are extremely high! on idle 48C and on load nearly 60C. the mobo temp hits approx 40c on load and 34 on idle.
I had an issue with cooling as the cpu heat diode would freeze my pc as it was hitting temps of 58c on idle. i was using the coolermaster aero 7+.... no good at all!!!!! even when on full rpm. Now im using a vantec 80mm fan on a Thermalright SLK-800A. much improved, however still extremely hot.
after reading this review (section headed: Heat Dissipation: Thermal Conditions and S2K Bus Disconnect) :
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlonxp-3000.html
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As the article states, it reduces Cpu temps ALOT!! but im not too sure ion how to activate it or even if my MSI motherboard supports it....
Can anyone shed some light???
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Radeon 9800
1GB 3200 Ram
xp 3000+ Barton
Sound Audigy 2
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Sorry about the long reply!!! the first thing i would like to say is why does this happen at 58C even with the bios temp settings diabled??? pehapes MSI could Answer this?
I have spent countless hours trying to fix this problem and a lot of £££. A bit of background to me I am a design engineer and i like my PC to work well. I have the following main components
xp3200+ based system (Max die 85C)
with dual 512ddr sticks running at 400mhz
Matrox Parphilia
10K SATA hard disk
7,200 133ATA hard drive
Plus motherboard Nvidia chipset
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first i started out with a very cheap case and standard amd heatsink. I found after about 5 minutes my pc kept crashing i automatically thought that it was probably the case temperature so monitored this found every time cpu reached 58C it crashed on the dot. The only conclusion i can draw from this that this MB has some thermal protection that can not be switched off but i am guessing perhapes MSI would like to answer this.
I quickly decided as an engineer that the best thing would be to go and buy a aluminuim case with lots of case fans (Basically a big heatsink itself). After a lot of searching i settled for a Coolermaster ATC110. It has four case fans all run at full speed all the time. Now this stoped the crashing problem it only now crashes if i put it under continous loading. Then i went out and bought a new cpu heatsink to replace the amd standard one. This had a minor effect on cpu temp but again under high loads the system crashed at 58C. Obvoiusly as an engineer i satred to think that the amount of noise the system with all its fans going at max is like being put in a wind tunnel.
I then turned to looking at the thermal diserpation requiremnts of all the bits in my system. I worked out that i need to disserpate 281Wmax of heat with my current setup. The kind of heat a small electric fire produces!!!. I begun to wounder if i could shift enough air through the two exhaust fans at the rooms ambient temp to do this. After some calculations I found that my case exhaust case fans are only just surfficent to disspate this amount. Which could explain this the crashing. because the higher the case temp the lower the capability of the heatsinks to conduct heat away from the item.
In the end i gave up with active cooling methods (heatsinks and fans) and realised my only option was to go for external cooling. I now have the system setup with a koolance exos cooling both hardisks graphics card cpu and MBchipset. I know this is very extreme but the case fan noise got to me now i have disconected all case fans except for the ones in my thermaltake power supply which are virtually silent. After about 12 evenings of testing and installation I now have a system which is not only stable but the CPU temp is only 32C.
Obvoiusly getting the heat out of the case is a good idea. The Exos is only running at it's lowest setting which means the fans arnt making any noticable noise.
MOST IMPORTANTLY IT DOES NOT CRASH ANY MORE. AND THERE IS THE PSSIBILTY OF OVERCLOCKING.
The question still remains though why 58C?

HELP me with my K7N2 delta ilsr

Can anyone help me with this problem. I have just upgraded to MSI's K7N2 delta ilsr motherboard. Its all working quite well apart from the fact that the pc wont start up from cold....at all.
When I start the pc from an off state, it runs up the fans and drives, but does not post.
The diagnostic led pannel on the back of the pc shows that the cpu is faulty or not installed correctly.
If I then press the reset button, the pc posts, and boots up just fine.
It does this EVERY time I start up.
I have tried re installing the cpu, which is an XP 2800+ 333 barton, but to no avail.
I have asked a few questions on other forums, but I cant solve it.
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1. the psu (I have a Tsunami 400 atx psu) could not be giving out enough power on initial startup, but once the pc is running, it has enough to boot the pc from a reset.
2. The mobo or the bios could be at fault. I have not flashed the bios, or upgraded it in any way from original, so is there an issue with the original bios on these boards, and 2800 barton chips??? Could it be a mobo fault? The pc runs fine once the machine is booted.? how do I test it?
3. The cpu could be faulty? but would this not stop it running fuull stop?
4. my ram. I have a single stick of OCZ 512mb pc3200 ddr, which I was told would make the pc fly. Not shure on that statement, but is this ram compatible?? could this be the problem?
Im fairly new to the upgrade side of things, and I need some help with this one.
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