K7N2 Delta-L deteriorating cmos resets

Hi
System info :
K7N2 Delta-L mobo
XP2500 Barton
2 x 256mb Samsung (Korean) PC3200
Coolermaster CP5-8JD1F-0L hsf
PNY ti4200 128mb
Maxtor 40g 7,200 hd
Pioneer DVD
LG CD-RW
2 x 80mm case fans
1st psu 400w generic
2nd psu Thermaltake 420w
All installed with first psu, and XP pro. Running no problems. Tested cpu at 11 x 200 (not straight off, gradually built up to it, watching for stability or temp problems), was running fine at stock voltages, ran 3d mark 2001 successfully. Backed things off to 10.5 x 200 to ensure stability. Re-ran 3dmark 2001, then ran prime95 overnight (8+ hours), with no problems at all. Temperatures were fine, I set the cpu temperature alarm well into the safe side in the bios (55deg). The highest cpu temperature PC Alert displayed, was 29 deg.
Updated the bios to 5.3, rebooted and checked the settings in the bios, went back into XP, no probs, re-ran 3dmark, went online, and started to play Dark Age of Camelot. After somewhere around 2 - 3 hours, the display started to "stutter", and the mouse movement became erratic. I logged off, checked PC Alert temps, all was fine, but 12v line had gone down to 11.56v. Rebooted to check the volts in the bios. They were down too, also the blue line selector had acquired a mind of its own, randomly headed anywhere when next item was selected, so I switched off, and guessing the psu to be maybe a bit inadequate, ordered the Thermaltake 420w to replace the 400w generic.
The Thermaltake arrives, install and fire up, after clearing the cmos to start again, and set up with basics. Voltages were all very satisfactory. In the meantime I had checked the cpu seating and thermal compound, and there had been no problems, and I also took the heatsink off the ti4200 to check thermal compound, cleaned and re-applied (as I did with the cpu).
On the fire up into XP, got a bsod with file corruption notice. Booted into Me install cd, formatted the drive, loaded smartdrv, and started a new XP install. The system locked up after a successful install, about 2 minutes into the worktop (went to use windows explorer to access drivers, etc., and it froze). Had to use the reset button, and it would not post. Cleared the cmos, and it posted. Reflashed the bios to 5.2 that was on the distribution cd just in case.
Since then, it has been a catalogue of failed installs, lockups and increasingly difficult clearing of the cmos. It is now at the point that a cmos clear does nothing (with the other pins at 100 and safe mode), and it fails to post. I get to the 3 lights flashing on the keyboard, and that is it.
I removed the board from the case, just in case I had hallucinated and missed a riser or something, but the risers were in the right place, and each had a fibre washer on top. Tried booting with the board out of the system, with just the cpu/hsf/memory/graphics, with no joy, also tried with a Gf 4 mx 440, and also no joy.
In retrospect, I don't think the 400w psu was too bad to drive the system, but it was worth being cautious - it has driven another system with no problems since. The cpu was performing great, as was the memory. There was no problem with the hsf or agp card. Memory was tried single stick in each memory slot (and all of it had flown through 3dmark and prime95 previously).
I am tempted to suspect something is adrift to do with the Athlon powersaving mode that has been mentioned in these forums. Other than that, there was something a bit weak on the mobo, and it has slowly bitten the dust.
Any suggestions gratefully received.

PS.
The case is one of those Superflower Midi towers, with good case volume. Airflow was quite nice with the 2 extra fans, one at front pulling in, the other at rear extracting.
The fan on top of the heatsink, is the standard Coolermaster, which overhangs the heatsink either side, with the bonus of blowing a nice airflow over the northbridge.
The 400w generic psu had 2 fans, which were also pulling a fair airflow through the case. I didn't get any indications of anything even aproaching overheating.

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pulled the vid card and stuck it in this lil KM2M combo,
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RMA tomorrow, only I DON'T want to waste any more time
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K7N2-Delta ILSR
Athlon FX 2500+ w/factory cooler
Kingston KVR333X64C25/512
Sapphire Radeon 9100 Atlantis
Western Digital 60GB
Western Digital 80GB
Pioneer DVR106
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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=1438&sid=
>Thanks. Read it and think I am on track. Checked my specs and was surprised the the 80GB is 7200rpm.
check jumpers there pin 4 is slave and i assume it an 80 wire ide blue end in board
>Right on both. Still, I am trying to boot with just one (have only tried the 60GB).
and in top one of 3 ide slots as lower is the raid one and it will not work as a regular ide nor in raid with 2x drives
>Spot on: cable's connected to the middle of the three IDE slots. DVD is on IDE 2, but I think I will disconnect and use my trusty CD-ROM until I get up and running.
myself i use all my wd drives in cable select
>Thanks, will try that too. I am at work, so will have to wait until I get home this afternoon to try your suggestions. Thanks again!

Band new computer with k7n2 delta will not boot or moniter not working

this is my first complete system build so please bare with me. the system uses a enlight 420 watt power supply in a lan boy case. it has a K7N2 Delta mother board with a 2500 barton amd cpu. the drives include 2 cd drives 1 floppy and one 120g hd, pny 5600 ultra video card 1 g kingston value ram ddr dual channel. when i turn on the power all the fan turn on the led in the front of the case light up but i get no boot or or video card not sure which yet. i get #1 led is red #2 led is red #3 led is green #4 led is green. i has tried to unplug drives with no change. tried a cmos reset with no change. tried a old voodoo video card with no change. tried to set the fsb to 100mhz with no change.
any other idea or suggestions would be helpfull.
justin
just tried used one stick of ram at a time with no change. the p.s. is +5v 40a, 3.3v 30a, +12v 18a, -5v .3a, -12v .8a, +5vsb 2a.

GOT IT TO POST LAST NIGHT. I HATE TO SAY WHAT I FOUND I FEEL A BIT LIKE AN IDIOT. WHAT I FOUND WAS THAT THE RESET BUTTON IS POLORIZED AND I HAD IT ON BACK WORDS. I TOOK ME WALKING AWAY FROM IT FOR A DAY TO COME UP WITH THE IDEA.
THANKS FOR ALL THE INPUT EVERYONE
JUSTIN

K7N2 Delta Athlon 2600+ Boot Problem!!

Hey this is my first post...
Here is my comp:
K7N2 Delta Series MB
Athlon XP 2600+
Thermaltake Volcano 7+
512 DDR PC3200
GeForce 4 Ti 4200
I noticed that my comp is booting at 1200 mhz. My comp is reading the CPU as a 1.2. I checked the bios and turned the fsb up to 200 mhz because my friend said he read in a forum that it was ok to do so. I did this and now my comp doesn't read my video card. It boots up ok just I have no picture. I have tried resetting the bios and still I have no pic. My questions are this:
1)Am I not flashing the bios correctly, and if so what is the best way to do it?
2)Could I have permanently damaged the motherboard or video card?
3)If none of the above what do you guys recommend I do to fix the problem and what have I done to create the problem in the first place?
Well if you can please help. I really want to be able to see windows again or even the bios!
Thanks

set jumper j10 to pins 1-2 and remove jumper j11. set cmos jumper to clear........unplug the power from wall....... press your power button to relieve any charge left in the mb.........now place cmos jumper to save......plug power back in, and try to start it.......if all goes well and it fires up set bios defaults....save and exit bios.............replace j11 and set j10 to pins 2-3.......and restart.
btw jmbook 166 fsb is also overclocking a 2600......default is 133 so take baby steps.

Msi k7n2 delta vs GIGABYTE nFORCE2 CHIPSET ULTRA400/8XAGP

Is the MSI k7n2 delta a better board the GIGABYTE nFORCE2 CHIPSET ULTRA400/8XAGP
So far i have personally tested the msi k7n2 delta and have had nothing but trouble out of it first i overclocked the amd 3200 and it ran stable and just fine but the odd thing is when i went to restart the computer some time the bio would not beep. so i shut it down and put a volcano 11 on the cpu and not it will not do anything at all
the tried to reset cmos no luck noved the jumper to safe mode no luck and even moved the 133/166 jumper and still nothing
MSI the device you gave me for problem shooting said processor damaged or not put in correct
Tested processor on another computer works just fine
Tested Geil ram pc3200 256 works fine
So i believe the board is shoot
I need to know what to do to fix it if anybody can help or if i should get the GIGABYTE nFORCE2 CHIPSET ULTRA400/8XAGP
thank you

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Originally posted by msi_ole
vicks
I don't agree with your reasoning that 3200+ is "overclocked". It is the faster AMD chip but it has been tested by the hunderds of hardware engineers in the AMD labs to work NORMALLY at this speed.
It was designed and optimized to work at this speed.
In fact its real speed is 2.2G and its performance is comparable with the P4 3.2G (you know the story).
AthlonXP3000+ real speed is 2.15G. This chip has two versions, FSB333 and FSB400.
I know what it is :D
What Im saying is he is having troubles booting because he overclocked it, the 3200+ isnt a good overclocker to begin with, Im not saying its something less and it was overclocked, he did the overclock himself and he may have pushed it too far since it isnt a good overclocker...

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