K7N2 Delta-L Dual Memory Mode!

Just Upgraded yesterday, plugged it in and system just beeps. Plugged in the D bracket and it states that there is a problem with the RAM. When i have one of my sticks of 256 on the 3rd slot to enable dual mode sytem just beeps and does nothing else! I have tried to swap the memory around with each other and it doesn't make a difference. When both modules are in slot 1 and 2 everything is fine.
Does anyone have any ideas what the problem could be? faulty slot? Is there a considerable difference in performance with dual mode is is it best just to leave it as it is?
Thanks for any help given.

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Originally posted by chumly
Just checked on the side of the ps, +5 is 35a, +12 is 17 a and =3.3 is 20a. From what you said this should be enough, I'll give the 1:1 ratio a try failing that i'm gonna take my system to a friends and try their memory as they have the same Motherboard but different ram and is working fine in dual mode.
AS Wonkanoby has stated, that QTEC unfortunately is crap. Try an Antec or Enermax 400W+. Also, I'm pretty sure that your RAM is not on the approved list.

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K7N2 delta in dual channel memory

Hi, I am new with MSI, new in this forum, and want to know what can I do to use the recent purchased K7N2-L mainboard in dual channel memory operation.
Manual instructions is not enough for me, because I don't know if any memory modules may be used or if special two are required.
Can I use two Kingston ValueRam 512MB PC2700 CL 2.5 for this purpose?
Inserting it in one purple and green memory sockets is the only thing I must to do?
Thanks in advance for your help and comments!

thanx wonkanoby!
Can you tell me how to check if the system is in dual channel operating? ?(

MSI K7N2 Delta2-FSR & Dual Memory Problems

Just recently I decided to upgrade my girlfriend's computer for her. Upgrade new PROC, MOBO, MEM. The proc is a AMD Athlon BARTON 3000+ OEM, Mobo is the MSI K7N2 Delta2-FSR and MEM is from PQI both are dual channel and in same package (identical) 512MB x 2. I thought it was an easy set up and everything and everything in terms of hook-ups was... I loaded XP and it gave me a crap load of errors, but I manage to load all of XP. Then came installing Adobe softwares, it kept saying "installing...." in an infinte loop and then froze on me. I skipped installing Adobe software and decided to install World of Warcraft Game. When I loaded the game, it popped up with errors installing, but it managed to install. WHen time to play the game; however, it kept crashing, restarting, and freezing. I noticed the system was a little bit laggy even though there was 1 gig of ram. So as a Geek Squad tech I am, I started to tweak and mess with it. I figure it was the MEMORY and I tried it and thought it was bad memory...
Yes it was memory when I tested with MEMTEST86 for dual channel ram, It came up with RED ERRORS all across the screen. So I decided to test each stick individually and each stick PASSED! I even tried each of the different slots on the motherboard and it all passed as SINGLE individual rams. I figure the first test with dual ram was just some mistake, loose RAM or something, so i decided to pop the DUALs right back in, in different combination and I kept seeing Red errors all over as well.
So my conclusion is :: Motherboard is bad. I contacted NEWEGG, but they will not refund my money as it has been over 30 days. I wish I would've known earlier... Anyways, So im stuck with exchanging for same mobo or find answers, but I think doing exchange will not do any good if this is a known problem.

Quote from: DaveR on 28-October-05, 01:38:08
Just to confirm; they are fine together in single channel, slot 1 and slot 2? Dual channel is purple + green slot, i.e slot 1 and 3 or 2 and 3. Or are you saying they can't work together in any combination of slots?
there will be a label on side of your psu stating max amps to +3.3V, +5v and +12v rails, i.e +3.3v = ?A, +5v = ?A, +12v = ?A. For example my psu is: Antec TrueBlue480: 30A/3.3V, 38A/5V, 28A/12V
Maybe your psu is not up to the job
You did load the chipset and graphics drivers didn't you?
You are correct sir... any combination of slots 1&3 or 2&3 will give error.... each as individuals 1,2,or3 will pass. The PSU amps readout are as follow:
+5v 40a Red, +12V1 16A yellow, +3.3v 35A orange, +12v2 18a yellow/black, -5v 0.5a white, -12v 0.5a blue, +5vsb 2.5a purple, pg gray.
I have loaded the chipset drivers from the CD it came with, and the graphics drivers are from ATI.com latest version. I will try and update the Nforce driver from Nvidia's site, but I don't see the chipset as the cause of this problem.
EDIT: In any combination of slots used, the read outof of MEMtest is single channel. Only slots 2&3 will have a read out of DUAL DDR channel 128bits. Slots 2&3 Will still have errors though...

K7N2 Delta - best overclocking memory?

Hi guys,
I am running my system at 2500MHz after getting my new Mobile Athlon 2500+ and it's very sweet, but to do it, I was forced to change my FSB/RAM ratio to 6:5 from 1:1, as my Infineon memory is unstable at FSB200 (even though it's rated at PC3200).
I have two questions:
1) What timing should I be attempting to run my memory at? Could the timings being too aggressive explain my problems? I've tried running at 8-3-3 CAS 3.0 at DDR400 and it's a little flaky. Should I try 9-4-4 CAS 3.0?
If I do this and manage to get the memory stable at a slower speed, will my performance suffer more than leaving it at 6-2-2 CAS 2.5 at DDR2700?
2) What is the best, most stable overclocking RAM that I can get for this board? I was looking at the Corsair PC3200-XL memory (Extreme Low Latency). It's rated for 5-2-2 CAS 2.0 at DDR400 speed:
http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/products/specs/twinx1024-3200xl.pdf
Does Corsair RAM work with this motherboard? According to the compatibility lists it *SHOULD* but I'm looking for opinions from folks with Corsair kit.
Thanks (as always)!

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btw lordban what do u cool with?
I'm using a X-Dreamer II case from Aspire with 5 case fans, a Vantec Spectrum fan card, a HardCano 12 unit (to control 4 of the 5 case fans) for case cooling.
For CPU cooling, I'm using a ThermalTake Extreme Volcano 12. It's noisy at full RPM, but effective. I run it at 4500-5000RPM and it seems to work fine.

MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR Memory problems

I'm trying to burn in a system in a 50 deg C (122 deg F) room for a minimum of 12 hours. The main system components are as follows:
Motherboard: MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2800+
Memory: 2x512 OCZ PC3200 EL
My problem is that the burn-in software continues to freeze up during the memory test. I've already contacted the software manufacturers and the software is stable. It's a problem with the way the motherboard handles the memory. I've tried putting the memory in dual channel configuration and changing the timing settings in the BIOS. The SPD settings are 2.5-3-3-7. Right now I have them at 3-4-3-8. It's a lot more stable than it was under the default settings but it still freezes up sometime after 7 hours. Unfortunately, I wasn't around when it froze so I don't know exactly how long it lasted. I can say that after 7 hours, it wasn't showing any slowdown in performance. If anyone could think of anything else I might be able to do to get the system stable, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for the suggestions. The CPU FSB is 200, so it's already matched up there. And we have a ton of fans already. There are two in the front, 4 inside and 1 on the back. It's a custom case, 2u high. The power supply is oversized and more than adequate to provide the required power. I have four of these units running right now. Two with 2x512 sticks and two with 1x1024 sticks. For each combination, the memory clock speed for one is 166 and 200 for the other. I have been loosening up the memory timings trying to get the system stable, but it still isn't. If the power supply is good, and I'm unable to cool the system anymore due to limititions within the case, is there anything you can think of to stabilize the system. Maybe other settings in the BIOS or suggestions on how to go about getting good timings for the memory. Thanks.

K7N2 Delta ILSR memory problem

I have a K7N2 Delta ILSR board with Athlon XP 2500 with 2 Gig of Mushkin Black Line ram (the ones that are
suppose to be CL2). I change the FSB to 200, and my memory won't run at CL2. Want to raise the Dram voltage
to 2.8V to see if it would make a difference. I looked all over this site for the modded bios 7.8. Does anyone
have the modded bios??? Any help would be appreciated.......

He/She overclocked the 2500+, to make it become a 3200+. Done it myself, but it mostly works with the first step of the 2500+. - That means the overclock forum.
Well, CAS 2 is a very tight timing, which I don't think is possible. In general on Socket A systems:
- FSB 133/266 --> CAS 2 or 2.5
- FSB 166/333 --> CAS 2.5
- FSB 200/400 --> CAS 3

MSI K7N2 DELTA -L (601-6570-020) nFORCE 2 DUAL 400 , RANDOM RESTART PROBLEM (WinXP,Win98)

Machine Specs:
- AMD Athlon XP 2600+ With L2 512 KB (Model 10)
- MSI K7N2 Delta -L nFORCE 2 Ultra 400 (601-670-020) (My AwardBios is updated to v5.7, Using nVIDIA`s O/B Audio and Ethernet Controllers)
- TwinMOS PC3200(CL2.5) 512 MB DDR400 RAM (Desktop Series)
- Samsung SpinPoint (SP0411N) 40 GB 7200 Rpm HDD
- GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP 4x (Oem Manufacturer)
- Samsung SyncMaster 753s 17" Monitor
- Sony 52x Cd-Rom
- Philips Stereo Headphones
- Windows XP Home Edition Turkish (Service Pack 1 Turkish) , I did all of critical and other updates ,Totally up to date.Device drivers are too...(nForce 3.13 whql International,Forceware 56.72 whql International)
Problem :
- ERROR EVENT : 1003 ERROR NAME : IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
Original Error Texts:
A problem has been detected & Windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen, restart the computer. If this screen appears again follow these steps.
Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed. If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer for any Windows updates you might need. If the problem continues, disable or remove any newly installed hardware or software.
Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing.
If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components restart your computer, Press F8 to select Advanced Start-up options & select Safe Mode.
Technical Information :
*** STOP: 0x0000000A (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0x804F1473)
Beginning dump of physical memory
Physical memory dump complete. Contact your system Administrator or technical support group for further assistance.
After restarting manually from the PC. I get the following message
The system has recovered from a serious error.
BCCode : a BCP1 : 00000004 BCP2 : 00000002 BCP3 : 00000000
BCP4 : 804F1ADA OSVer : 5_1_2600 SP : 0_0 Product : 256_1
C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini042202-01.dmp
C:\DOCUME~1\DANIEL~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER3.tmp.dir00\sysdata.xml
And when I check EVENT VIEWER
Event Type: Error
Event Source: System Error
Event Category: (102)
Event ID: 1003
Date: 22/04/2002
Time: 5:55:03 PM
User: N/A
Computer: XXX-BOX
Description:
Error code 0000000a, parameter1 00000004, parameter2 00000002, parameter3 00000000, parameter4 804f1ada.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 53 79 73 74 65 6d 20 45 System E
0008: 72 72 6f 72 20 20 45 72 rror Er
0010: 72 6f 72 20 63 6f 64 65 ror code
0018: 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000
0020: 61 20 20 50 61 72 61 6d a Param
0028: 65 74 65 72 73 20 30 30 eters 00
0030: 30 30 30 30 30 34 2c 20 000004,
0038: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 32 00000002
0040: 2c 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 , 000000
0048: 30 30 2c 20 38 30 34 66 00, 804f
0050: 31 61 64 61 1ada
I installed 6 operating systems on my pc (WinXp Home Edition Turkish/English,WinXP Pro Turkish/English,Win98 Turkish/English) and tested it, but every time i meet the same thing (MS Blue Screen Of Death Sux...).I checked the WinXP`s logs and searched for error code`s meaning from microsoft knowledge database. They are saying nothing about this problem but the problem`s root is coming from a bad device driver. It seems to be a generic problem for all operating systems cuz all of them were restarting themselves randomly, before i close "auto-restart on critical errors" option.After i saw some messages on forums , i searched for my RAM maker`s home page then i learned that my RAM is assembled with VIA KT Series and SIS chips & optimized for them. I think nForce is too picky about rams.But i aint sure about where the hell is this problem coming from. If you guys are sure about that is an unsupported ram problem and knew the list of ram marks&models that supported by MSI K7N2 Delta -L ,please help me about this damn problem. Thanks for your help.
Note : I tried Asus Ati Radeon 9200SE 64mb g.adapter (some peoples told me thats about g.adapter), but problem continued.

If I read correctly in your specs I see only 11 Amps on the +12v Rail. Is this correct?
If so, I'd advise a PSU that has at least 18 amps on the +12v Rail, perhaps as low as 16 with the other rails to match as shown currently in your spec.
11 Amps is just way too underpowered for that rig. I am surprised it even boots.
At what point does the BSOD occur?

K7N2 delta thermal sensor / dual channel

Hi all.
I was wondering for what purpose my k7n2 delta ilsr has a thermal sensor (tape sensor) underneath the CPU, right in the middle of the socket... shouldn't the board read the temps directly from the CPU diode? Anyone knows?
I have also seen an interesting thing... I had 2 sticks of 512mb kingston in that board, in dual channel mode and last week I ran doom3's timedemo demo1, and I noticed that I got a 10fps lower result than those I had earlier, when I was running single channel with only one stick.. so I pulled the second stick out and installed it in the other dimm (didn't change anything in BIOS), wich uses the same mem controller that the first and ran timedemo again... As you might guess i got about 10fps more than the previous result I went searching it and i did find one article confirming this - http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10384 And a LOT more saying the contrarylike this one! http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/nforce2-1vs2channels/
I found some potential explanations but I think 10fps is still a lot for those explanations, besides nVidia sold this as a high-end feature on this chipset... what the hell???

Quote from: dOP on 04-October-05, 05:20:51
The modules are kvr400x64c25/512, and they are at default timmings. I´ve been using one of them for about 1 year and it works perfectly. The other one is recent but it works flawlessly too. Howerver when they're together this thing happens. I'm not sure if this is a problem with the modules/kingston because it's so weird. I can't find any logical explanation, I'll keep looking... As you say Stu, kingston is a hit or miss, but hit and miss at the same time is strange. I'll do some research on those mushkin/crucial modules. Thanks.
They are not matched... Ill bet 1000 dollars that is why
Kingston absolutely requires the sticks be purchased in their "DUAL CHANNEL" (2 stick) package. I already went through that with Kingston a year ago with the K7N2-D2-P

K7N2 Delta - L & memory config

I searched the forum for this and didn't find the answer. Since it's a generic question I'm hoping I don't have to list all the specs.
K7N2 Delta L w/ BIOS 6570v56 installed
Currently running 2 sticks Crucial 3200 400 DDR 256mb cas 2.5 dimm slot 1 and slot 3 - dual channel
Just purchased a new stick of Crucial 3200 400 DDR 512mb cas 2.5
Where should this stick be installed for best performance?
Will I lose dual channel if all 3 slots are used?
If I lose dual channel, which set up is better:
Dual channel w 512mb total ram
OR
No dual channel w/ 1gb total ram
Thanks

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Originally posted by gleonard
I was wondering about the dual channel w/ all three slots. I already have 2x512 in slots 1 & 3. I was hoping I could add another 512 stick and still have dual channel. But it looks like according to previous posts that it won't because all my sticks would be equal in size. Guess I'll have to be satisfied with just 1Gb ram for now.
from what i heard you can have 3 stick all of the same size and use dual channel.
but 512mb would run in single channel but have not got a confirmation it really works,.
and what do you need so much memory for ?

Kingston, Crucial, Twinmos memory has problem with K7N2-DELTA??

I need 2*256MB memory for my AMD 2500+XP.
Kingston, Crucial, Twinmos memory seem to have problem with K7N2-DELTA-ILSR
Is Samsung good?
Please do me a favor to choose one brand that fit my mobo in this link:
http://www.canadacomputers.com/memory.html
I tried KingMax(SuperRam Series, since they don't have the ram with the model listed in the test report) and Corsair(CMX256A-3200C2) ,both no good for 2*256MB DUAL channel
Thank you very much

I think OCZ and Samsung, is mostly work memory,r ight?
thx
I think I will try OCZ

MSI K7N2 Delta keep rebooting with 2X512mb Dual channel

HI.....
I have a problem with my board K7N2 Delta, when i use 2X512mb pc3200 ram, doesn't matter which brand.... in dual channel, my pc keeps rebooting after a few seconds....some times i even cant get to windows.
i have tryed putting the ram in the different slots, but it is still the same.
booth brands of ram can run dual on other boards....
Should i change something in bios or.....?
What do i do wrong?
specs.
MSI k7n2 delta.... bios 6.0
Barton 2500+
maxtor9 80gb
asus 9550GE
2X512mb Kingston value

Quote from: DaveR on 20-May-05, 22:25:29
dram frequency should be 1:1, particularly so if having problems like so
fsb = 166. Also want memory bus at 166 Mhz, means ddr = 333
see if that gets rid of reboots
I have changed frequency to 1:1.......and i am actually running in dual channel now....
my ram are running 166 with timmings 2.5 - 3 - 3 - 7
before in single channel frequency
my ram was running 200 with timming 3 - 3 - 3 - 8
let see for how long it keeps going.

Is it possible to run 3 DIMMs with Dual Channel on K7N2-Delta-L?

I was wondering whether it is possible to run Dual Channel with all 3 slots.
I noticed the manual said Dual Channel is only enabled when running 1/3, or 2/3.
However, friends with Asus and Abit boards of similar design (nForce 2 400 with 3 DIMM slots) told me they can run Dual Channel with DIMMs in all three slots.
Has anyone tried something like this with the K7N2 Delta-L?

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Power: CompUSA 500W Specs
+3.3V = 15A
+5V = 42A
+12V = 19A
-5V = 0.6A
-12V = 0.6A
+5Vsb= 2A
Total 500W
the 3.3v rail is terrible.
i have 20 amps on the 3.3v rail and i have a generic 300w psu.
time to buy a new one and make that a antec enermax or any other good psu.
drop a post here if you want any advise on which psu you should buy
3.3v 25a
5v 35a
12v 16a
something like this is minimum of what you should have.
500w does not mean anything when looking at a psu.
an enermax 350w has almost twice the power output as a q-tec 550w.

Memory Timing w/K7N2-DELTA-ILSR

How do i set the memory timing? I just bought some Corsair DDR400 memory. I have been readding about memory settings as in timing for them. How do I set them in the BIOS? Plus this memory is the TWINX1024-3200LLPT (low latency) memory and I was use it to its full potential. please help?
AMD XP 2800
MSI K7N2-DELTA
CORSAIR TWINX1024-3200LLPT
Visiontek Geforce 4 TI4600 128 DDR

brink182,
You can leave the memory timings to Auto and the mobo will use the latency programed in the RAM's SPD. Just make sure you have the CPU to RAM Ratio set to 1:1.
Take Care,
Richard

New Modded BIOS for K7N2 Delta ILSR

MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR Modded BIOS based on Official v. 7.80 BIOS
download here:

Description: Access through interface which is on insecure interfaces list detected. Request aborted.
Interface/Client IP address:
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:11:17 GMT
Doesn't work for me
By the way did u put the bios to vork with 1.3 vcore like the braziliantech one that does't exist anymore ?
EDIT: Thanks it's working now

My KingMax SuperRam can't run Dual Channel for K7N2-delta

My KingMax SuperRam can't run Dual Channel for K7N2-delta
why??

How many sticks do you have?
Please post complete systems specs in your signature.

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