K7N2 Delta-L - RADEON 9800SE AiW Power Up Problem

SYSTEM:
K7N2 Delta-L ( BIOS updated to w6570nms.560 - v5.6 )
AMD 2600XP
512MB Crucial RAM
Adaptec SCSI 39160
Sapphire Radeon 9800SE AiW
Antec 480W True Power PSU
+5V ( 0A - 38A )
+12V ( 0.8A - 22A )
+3.3V 0A - 30A )
PROBLEM:
I've just got the Radeon card and installed it. Everything is connected fine inc. the extra power supply for the card. Now, when I switch on the PC, it only powers up for a split second and then everything shuts off. When I disconnect the extra power supply to the radeon card the PC boots up fine, except for a message from the card saying it needs power. Some other users on this forum had a similar problem.
So is this a problem with the K7N2 Delta-L board or with my Antec PSU ? Surely 480W and the above AMP output should be enough.
Anyone got a fix for this ?
THX for any help
P.S. I've also tried this card in an older PC ( ECS K7S6A - 1800XP - Qtec 550W ) and I didn't experience the problem above.

The Antec PSU is fine, I tried different plugs and it still didn't work.
The Qtec PSU is fine as well but not as quite as the Antec.
I think the Antec PSU doesn't work because of its overloading protection. The Radeon card probably sucks quite some power when the PC is switched on.
I've spend the last two days finding an answer to my problem, and other users experienced a similar thing.
Oh well, guess I have to live with the loud Qtec for a while and in the meantime try to get an answer from Antec.
Thx

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K7N2 Delta-ILSR - Radeon 9700 pro - no power.

K7N2 Delta - ILSR (6570)
AMD Athlon XP2800+ (Barton)
nVidia GeForce III 64mb
1GB Samsung PC3200 400MHz DDR Original [2x512MB] [Checked nVidia site = Compatible]
40gb + 80gb Hard Drives
Sony DVD burner
500wat psu 3.3 - 28 / 5 - 40 / 12 - 17
3 extra fans
2 Cathodes
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Windows XP pro SP2. [all drivers and Bios are upto date]
Everything works 100%
Sapphire Radeon 9700 Pro... No fans, No lights No DVD and 1 Hard Drive.
Power on... Continuous short BEEPS... Monitor comes on with the message "NO POWER CONNECTED TO RADEON"
The Radeon mostly worked for over a year, [trouble booting cold] now it does'nt. [not with my MSI]
The card works with my old board, LEX BN790E via KT266A, 512mb, AMD XP1700+ and all extras.
I have been building my own P.C's for years. Starting with a 386sx, a huge 2mg of ram and Windows 3.11
Everything is connected as it should be.

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The Radeon mostly worked for over a year, [trouble booting cold] now it does'nt. [not with my MSI]
The card works with my old board, LEX BN790E via KT266A, 512mb, AMD XP1700+ and all extras.
that is suggesting to me either your PSU is failing, or it is a Poor PSU with over-optimistic amp ratings (eg Q-Tec). it will all appear to work fine on your older board, as that has lower power requirements, have a look in my sticky Is your problem caused by your PSU? for more info and advice.
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Could people please read the entire post and NOT just the title.
that was a bit rude. people try to help by asking questions and giving suggestions. making responses like that is more likely to make people ignore this topic. Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.

K7N2 Delta series designed for AMD Trend micro problem

;( I have installed PC-Cillin 2002 which came on the disk with the m/board, the program seems to work fine, but the help section is all in ? Chinese, I have installed Chinese etc language support but still no change. Trend Micro who do PC-Cillin say contact reseller etc or they will charge a fee. Msi UK web site no good. Can you help please? ?( :O

umm you should be able too explore the cd and find the english version and install it manually from the disc it may have just been a invalid link from the launcher make sure u uninstall the chinese version first

K7N2 delta reboot frequently

Hello ALL
I have a K7N2 delta with arhlon 2600+ 256Mo.
My problem is the following :
My pc reboots frequently since I have upgraded the BIOS (Ver 5.60) and changed my graphic card.
The temperature of the CPU gets up to 80°c....I suppose it is the reason why my PC reboots...But I dont know why the temperature is so high....
Can someone help me please....
Denso

Hello,
Welcome to the forum, please start by reading MOAN GUIDE That temp is way to high, sounds like your cooler is not installed properly read CPU Install Guide and Artic Silver

K7N2 Delta - ILSR + 9800SE AIW Please offer afice :(

Please can anyone who thinks they may be able to help with new 9800se AIW card i just got take a look at this thread:
http://forums.hexus.net/showindex.php?s=&threadid=7805
Sorry i can't be bothered to type it all out again .. :(
Appreciate any advice, thanks

I got other probs now .... I think I will probably need a new high rated quality PSU ,after I get this sorted, to run my system well. But heres the new prob, whatever I do, running new graphics card or old, with any 1 of the 4 PSU's i have, it just hangs at 'Assign Resources to all ISA' according to the D-bracket, I can't see what is actualy happebning on the comp because of the dame boot image that is so 'nice', which I cant turn off because I cant get to the Bios ...... but I assume it just does nothing after checking the Ram as it was before, when i thought it was just the new graphics card ...
Read here for full story:
http://forums.hexus.net/showindex.php?s=&threadid=7805
Please I really need help, what does that thing its hanging on actualy mean/do. How can i fix this ? Do you think i have ended up screwing the mobo whilst I was trying different PSU's ?

K7N2-Delta Power-On Issues

I recently purchased a K7N2-Delta board, with an AMD 2600 processor, and an All in wonder Radeon 9800 pro. Those of you familiar with the new radeons know they require an additional power source. When I connect this power source, my system will not boot. The fans spin a couple revolutions, then stop. It is not a memory/Processor issue, as I have replaced those. The board will also post with an older video card. I am using a PowMax (I think?) 500 W power supply, which should have ample power to power the machine. I've also tried with EVERYTHING else disconnected, except the fans, and it still would not work. If i unplug the additional power that the card recieves, it will start up, and the radeon screen comes up letting me know I need to connect the additional power cord.
Thanks for your help!

Hello Malestrm,
Sorry to hear about your problem. I know if can be very frustrating. I built my computer few months ago, also with a K7N2 Delta-L AMD 1700+ and Radeon 9700 Pro.
I also had the exact same problem as yours. I spent alot of time trying to figure out the problem, but nothing worked. My ultimate solution, since I couldn't afford to spend more money was to leave my computer ON once I had it running.
However, whenever I did turn it off, the only way to restart from a cold boot was to keep trying to ON the Main Switch and after each time it didn't work i had to turn off the MAIN PSU SWITCH and then turn it ON again.
It was very annoying. And no one on any forum boards was able to help, even tho they tried.
Right now - my radeon card is dead and I am running an old geforce 2 which doesn't cause the same problem.
Also, since I was working as a computer teacher in a school during that time, I had access to alot of computers and my radeon 9700 pro would work completely fine in any other one. Even the old ones. So I doubt it was a problem with the card or the PSU. I am using ICute 350W. But the card successfully ran on far lower amp/watta PSUs.
I reckon it is most likely a mobo fault - in which case I should actually be asking MSI for some sort of compensation. But then again I am too busy to start the whole frustrating process again.
Hope you do have some better luck, and if you do ultimatly find a solution, please drop me a note.

K7n2 Delta power on for 1 second problem

I have owned a MSI k7n2 Delta motherboard for just over a year, and it has worked fine.
Just recently i decided to clean my computer after coming back from university, where it had gotten a little dusty.After cleaning it i plugged it all back in and powered it on. The power came on for about 1 second and then went off agen.The PSU fans came on, the CPU fan came on, but then it all just stopped after about a second.
I have tried a different PSU also, and still the problem is the same.
I also attempted removing everything then re-building, hoping this might fix something, but still the same problem.
I have taken the CPU out and booted the system, the system beeps and stays on, the D-LED at the back signifying that the CPU is damaged or not installed, which is correct, but on replacing the CPU, the system again powers on and then off.I've tested the RAM, both modules, one module and switched DIMMs, but still the same problem.
This is a very odd problem after a year of my computer working fine, i can only assume that i have damaged a component during cleaning, but im not sure whether the CPU,Motherboard or RAM is damaged.
I dont suspect its the RAM, otherwise the computer would hang on power.
Any suggestions would be thankful ?
Specs:
AMD-Athlon XP2600
MSI K7N2 Delta
2x256 Crucial 2700 DDR
Radeon 9600 GFX
80Gb Seagate
120Gb Seagate
2x CD/DVD/RW Drives

Someone else had that problem here a few days ago, he found mobo knackered, did you ground your self when cleaning? When cleaning you must be grounded the easiest way is to leave power cord plugged in with the mains switched off!! Press power button on case to discharge psu, then hold or touch the side of the case regularly while cleaning. I WOULD DO REBUILD FIRST YOU MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING.

[nForce] K7N2 Delta 2 LSR boot/power up issues

I installed the K7N2 Delta LSR mb with an Athlon XP socket A 3000+ cpu. The computer turns on but won't boot. Nothing appears on the monitor screen and there are no beeps. The harddrive spins, the board has power but nothing happens. When I put my old mother board back (MSI K7T Pro266A) in with the Athlon 2000+, everything works fine.
Maxtor 60 gb harddrive
512 MB SD pc2100 SD Ram
Abit 128 mb Radeon 9200SE Video card
Any suggestions?

A few things to check:
Do you have any unused stand offs in the case touching the motherboard
The XP3000 CPU is a barton core and comes in two variants, a 333FSB and a 400FSB version. Your RAM is PC2100 which with an Nforce chipset is a recipie for problems. The NForce chipset is picky about RAM and PC2100 running on a PC2700/PC3200 processor FSB probably won't work.
Also post your PSU max amps, as a +12V rail below 16A could cause problems.
Do you have a D-Bracket connected ? This is the PCI insert with 4 leds on ?

Power Eating mainboard K7N2 Delta ILSR

I don't know if shall be so but, i just got a K7N2 Delta ILSR
i have a
Amd Xp 1800+
1 maxtor 80 gb
liton 52x24x52
vulcano 9
and a 400 Watt psu
some how my fan speed on the vulcano 9 nearley stops
is the mainboard eating that mutch power if i put my 300 Watt in it the harddrives can't start
but with the 400 w the harddrive, is not able to write.
this i totaly Unreal power it's eating, or what ?!
Now i just have my old K7T turbo 2 X(

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Originally posted by christop
wonkanoby i will not have you moch Q-Tec TBH there the Best power supplys i ever had. I have a Q-Tec 550Watt Gold which cost me £30 Sterling and I have the most jam packed pc full of gadgets ever imaginable 4 HDD 3 Optical drives SB Audigy 2 with Drive Bay 3 Cold Cathode Lights 1 Lazer Cathode. 4 L.E.D case fans. And i have no problems whats so ever i can run my system for weeks on end with no instability.
Christop,
Don't take it personally Q-Tec is known throughout the industry for making crap, I'm not sure about the 550 Gold but most of their models have very weak rails and I'm sure that's what Wonkanoby was referring too. Perhaps the 550 golds are made better? Either way you should feel fortunate that your PSU can push all that you have, I'm impressed. )

MOVED: K7N2 Delta Upgrade Power Off Problems

This topic has been moved to AMD SocketA based board.
K7N2 Delta Upgrade Power Off Problems

Thanks for the various suggestions. I can confirm:
- 4 pin cpu power plug connected
- front bus frequency changed to 200MHz, processor now recognised correctly as Athlon xp3200+
- I have been assured the cpu has not been overclocked
However power off problem persists. System shuts down after approx 1 minute whether i am in BIOS or start initiaiting xp repair from CD. As the system shuts down after such a short time the xp repair will not complete. The system wil not power on again until at least 15mins has elapsed then promptly powers off again.
I have fitted the D-bracker diagnostic tool and this shows 'operating system booting', ie four green lights.
I note from the motherboard maunal that a cpu thermal protection system is installed for the Athlon cpu platform. If the mechanism senses an abnormal temperature rise it automatically shuts down the system. As noted in my original post the system is powering off with the cpu temp at <40 deg C. The cpu warning temp in the BIOS PC health check stsus facility is set at 60 deg C so do not think this is the issue?
System details:
MSI K7 N2 delta (MS-6570)
Athlon xp 3200+ (AXDA3200DKV-4E)
Corsair twinX 1024-3200C2 DDR-DIM 1024 MB
Seagate ST340016A 40MB HDD
Pioneer DVD Rom
Generic CRD - BP1500P CD
1.4MB mitsumi FDD
Thermal take TR2 470W psu
Coolermaster xdreamII socket A cpu fan
Gigabyte geforce 6600GT turbo video
soundblaster live 5.1
Anyone any further thoughts?

MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR (MS 6570) trouble With ATA card

Hi, i have major trubble.
Ihave two 300gb, two 120gb and two 80gb harddrives + 1 DVD burner and 1 CD burner with ultra DMA 100 PCI card and it works fine without using the sata or ide3 raid function. I purchased an new PCI ATA 133 card and the system won't boot. I have tried for an long time to get the raid function to work but wihtout results with my old ATA 100 card (it works when i unplugg the ide cable from ide3).
Is there anybody that knows with type off PCI ATA 133 card that works or how too coop whith this problem.
I've got the latest bios ver. 7.8 but no difference
AMD XP2800+
Kingston 2x512mb
ATI Saphire Radeon 9600pro 256mb
Soundblaster Live Value
XP pro sp2
MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR (MS 6570)

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Is it possible to change the FSB from 166 to 200, and what should i think about before action. Like i said before i have an xp2800+
Alltså är det möjligt att få cpu gå på samma frekvens som minnena om man ökar FSB har några tip så är jag tacksam.
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K7N2 Delta ISLR and XP3200 Woes

Let me share some of my experience with random crashes and lock ups on my main system.
Hopefully some might find it helpful and others might have useful comments to add.
It all started when I decided to upgrade my system. I waited until new technology was announced and then went out and bought the hardware that was knocked off the top spot.
My current system is:
Althon XP3200 Barton
1Gig PC3200 (2x512M)
K7N2 Delta ISLR Bios 7.7
Radeon 9700pro
Antec TruePower 550W PSU
XP Professional
SATA 120G Barracuda
When I first assembled the system I could not, and still cannot, get it to run stable as a XP3200 with a FSB of 200MHz (400MHz) and the memory in dual channel mode. The system wouldn’t boot, would randomly crash, would come up with fatal XP errors.
So after consulting the message boards I was informed it was probably be down to two causes; a inadequate power supply or overheating.
That is when I went out and bought the Antec TruePower 550W PSU. The reason being the CPU temperature was around 47C - 52C (107F - 115F) with ambient around 35C (88F). Not too hot I thought.
Anyway this did not solve the problem so I then decided to change the CPU coolers. I now have a nice collection, Alaska, Aero, Gigabyte and others. Current one on order is SLK-900A with a delta FFB0912EHE fan. But again this did not solve the problem.
I then thought that maybe the ambient inside temperature was too high and therefore pushing the CPU temperature up. To solve this I fitted two hard-drive fans, four 80mm case fans and a PCI exhaust fan. This was on top of the 3 fans already in the system. Still the system would not run. I even took the side panel off and had a 6” mains fan blowing into the case. Still couldn’t make it stable.
I have just ordered a Thermaltake Wingo V8000A case.
So I decided to check out the XP3200 and memory. After playing around I found out that:
1. The memory is fine running dual channel at 400MHz. I ran memtest using my CPU and memory in a friends PC for 12 hours without any problems (Abit board).
2. The system is stable if I drop the FSB to the processor to 166MHz (333MHz). How I am currently run the machine.
3. The system was more stable if I ran the memory in single channel mode.
4. The point it becomes unstable is when the CPU FSB is 192MHz (384Mhz).
5. The problem occurs on another K7N2 Delta ISLR motherboard. Actually exactly the same problem running a different XP3200 and 1Gig.
I have tried all possible combinations in the bios, except Vcore, Vddim voltage levels. Which is my next step. I think I need to up the Vcore at higher frequencies as I believe it may be a bios /motherboard inherent problem.
I hope this might be helpful to some who are experiencing the sample problems.
Couple of things I don’t like about the mother generally a part from the fact I can’t set it up correctly.
1. The decoupling capacitors around the CPU socket are too close. This limits the choice of CPU coolers you can fit.
2. Motherboard components interfere / prevent you from fitting certain cards in the PCI slots. Such as the SPDF adapter that comes with the motherboard.
And does anyone know:
1. What is the maximum temperature I should be seeing for stable operation on a XP3200?
2. Any recommendations on another suitable motherboard? I basically spent all the money I had so if I can’t get it working I’ll bin the motherboard and buy another one.
Oh, why don't I run it at 333MHz? Well then I got a slower system than I started with and it means I admit defeat!

I have this same board with the same BIOS and am also using an Athlon XP 3200+ (with Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 RAM) and had the same excruciating stability problems. I had tried/tested everything in sight and no stability. Then I found a posting in this forum made a few months back by WebFan (with an XP 3200+ and basically the same RAM), who said he had the same kind of problem. He had only achieved stability when he reduced the FSB setting to 192 MHz (obviously not a coincidence). (Thank you ever so much WebFan.) I reached the heaven of stability by making the same change. Then I started experimenting; I moved the bus speed to 193, still okay. I set the RAM settings to the 3-3-6 2.5 that Corsair says are stable, still okay.
Then, and this I believe is the key step, I installed the lastest set of chipset drivers from nVidia (not the older version provided by MSI). This change subjectively seemed to improve performance noticeably, so I decided to take the big plunge and return the FSB to the rated 200 MHz setting. It's only been three days, but STILL OKAY! Before setting the FSB to 192, I was having all kinds of blue-screen crashes numerous times a day. I haven't had a single one in ten days, three days running at the full 200 MHz.
It seems to me that the board/chipset were not tuned to handle the 3200+. If you look at the description of the board on the MSI global site, it says it's compatible with Athlon XP 3000+ and up. My guess is that only the lastest edition of the drivers, version 4.24/4.27, is up to the job. (I'm not interested in overclocking and so haven't been interested in seeing if I can do better than the rated 200 MHz setting [400 MHz DDR clock speed]. Leave well enough alone, if you ask me.)
Try them; you have nothing to lose but your instability.

K7N2 Delta-L Compatibility Issues HELP

I am currently building a system to use as a development server. Here are all the parts I have used.
[list=a]
K7N2 Delta L Motherboard
AMD Athlon 2800+ 333 FSB
PowMax Case 400W Power Supply
Western Digital HD 80GB UDMA 100 7200 RPM
Western Digital HD 20GB UDMA 100 7200 RPM
Plextor PX-W5224TA BLACK CDRW
ATI Radeon 9000 64MB AGP 4x
VOLCANO 7+ RT Fan to replace standard Athlon Fan[/list=a]
I have assembled the entire system but have run into a road block. I get the BLUE SCREEN of death everytime I try to install the system. I have double checked all jumpers on every piece of hardware. I have also double checked everything in my BIOS, which is at the current version. I have also disable and swaped hardware to narrow the problem.
I still got the error message. Naturally I assumed it was now the RAM. I started with a Kingston HyperX KHX2700/512 module. I put in in the second DIMM slot. I then went out and bougth another Kingston Module KVR333/512. Still the same error. I then tried slower RAM, PNY PC2100 512 Module. All modules placed in the second DIMM. I even tried moving them to the first DIMM slot. Again the same problem.
With the Kingston memory the FSB/DRAM ration was 1:1 and the FSB was set to 166mhz. I have found numerious posts in this forum and tried them all. Does anyone know what could be wrong? Any and all help is appreciated.
I think it's either my RAM choice or PSU. Here are the schematics for the PSU.
+5v 30a max
-12v 0.8a max
-5v 0.3a max
+12v 25a max
+3.3v 28a max+5sb 2.0a max
I have plugged in the 12v cpu power supply as well. System and Bios cache disabled. I have tried installing Windows 2003 Server and Windows XP Pro. No luck on any.

Hi,
Brownman: Although disabling APIC seems to have solved your problem, it may come back and bite you on the a**. The APIC option in the BIOS gives your OS 22 (or 23 I forget which) IRQ addresses for different pieces of hardware you install. With APIC disabled you are restricted to 16 IRQ's (0-15) if you install a lot of new hardware in the future, you may run out of IRQ's. If you are installing XP it's also a good idea to install it with PNP OS disabled in the BIOS.
BTW, you didn't have an "Active" cable connected to your NIC card while you were installing XP? If this is the case you should unplug it - this can stop an XP install dead in it's tracks.
Axel

K7N2 Delta No Raid or Sata - Refuses to install OS

Hi
From what I gather, I think I have bought a bit of a tricky board and hopefully some fine people in here may help me resolve my dilemma.
The Mainboard:
MSI K7N2 Delta without RAID or SATA.
The Components to be installed:
Athlon MP 1800+ completely bog standard
S3 S8 Nitro 256 8x AGP
2x256 paired PC2700 Micron DDR DIMM's
Benq 16x DVD Writer Secondary Master
Maxtor 40Gb IDE Diamond Max HDD Primary Master
IDE Cables are extremely high quality ATA133 jobs.
Power Supply:
Brand New Delux 450 Watt with home built power conditioning throughput - Extremely little fluctuation even under massive load!
This little lot above is sitting in my Asus A7V333 mobo, it is a brilliant little setup but I intend to open the 1800 up or crank up a Duron Applebred which a friend had performing like a dream when he unlocked it...
The Issue:
I have been building and playing with PC's since I built my first Sinclair ZX80 way back in the 70's, so I know what's what in a box.
I put the mobo in the case, connected it all up, connected it up and hey presto, a POST screen and I managed to get into BIOS.
Then it died...
Waited the requisite ten to fifteen seconds after turning the PSU off, again, shut down.
I checked the J10 and J11 jumpers, set J10 to safe (100Mhz) leaving J11 closed, we have a stable BIOS but a CPU that is running at 1150Mhz and no manner of messing with the frequency settings will move that Mhz up.
So I decided to persevere, put XP in, started to load, go to the message "Setup is starting Windows" and again it shut off.
Odd!
Took out one of the mem DIMMS, reset J10 to 133/166, shut off, reset, moved the DIMM to another slot, and again, off it went and so forth.
Changed the memory to a Kingston 128Mb, again powered off.
Put an ATi Radeon 9250 in it... same old same old...
A Nvidia GeForce 2 MX replaced the ATi, beginnning to look at smashing the thing to pieces in frustration, dies at either startup or "Setup is starting Windows"
Pulled the DVD drive, still the same, did all this with the FSB set to 100Mhz, got as far as Setup is starting Windows and died.
Found a stock XP 1800+, stuck that in, followed the above and stil it would either go past BIOS screen in 133/166 or would crash at "Setup is starting Windows"
Now, why have I not sent this board back...?
I took it round a friends, who stuck a 2400+ in, some crappy old Samsung memory, his case has "El Cheapo" stamped on the PSU and the bloody thing powered up right as rain...
So we reflashed the BIOS, used the manual again to set it up for the 1800+ and I brought it back, no go...
Ye Gods, This is a sore trial indeed and I am beginning to regret being coaxed into taking this board on, playing Need For Speed Most Wanted on my Asus looks superb (the S8 Nitro is a really underrated card).
Any ideas before its "Hammer Time"..?
Ancient One

Hi
I only have PC2700 unfortunately being somewhat misled by Crucial that my FSB would run at 333 if I put it into the Asus.
I have rejected the GeForce because it really looks 'orrible running under the board, it may be failing in any case but the artefact seems to be there only when installed to the MSI, on the Asus, it runs perfectly and gets a reasonable score on 3dMark 2001 for what it is. Being an MX means that even though its bigger spec than some GF3s , the memory is a lot lot older claiming to be DDR when in fact it is early SD. The Abit Radeon 9250 is my trusty reference card as it can stoop to 2x if need be but will run in all sockets but doesn't perform as well in any way with the S8 Nitro which apperently has futureproof tech in anticipation of DX10.
The board I have, has 5 pastel green jumpers, CMOS clear at 1-2, J10 & 11 plus two down the bottom left that I can't find reference to in my manual, I suspect these are to do with the sound and USB capabilities so thought to check what these were.
The BIOS flash didn't change anything and in the BIOS I noticed that I was getting thermal readings from the temp sensor so thats out of the window as well.
FSB settings I have tried are 9 x 166, 11.5 x 133 and variations in between trying to make up 1534 or thereabouts.
I am wondering of a pinout mod to the XP socket might do the trick if I can out the FSB locks, I noticed that I cannot change the voltage Vcore to 1.75+ which is the juice that the Palomino needs, it is stuck on 1.60+ thus undervolting it somewhat, on the Asus there is a jumper for freeing the volting up, I wonder if there is anything the same on the MSI...? I tmight be detecting the MP as a mobile and then finding it locked thus not able to process the chip as it should be eg less volts and variable rates of frequency... Hmmm
There is more though... I found an old Duron 950, ran the system up on 100FSB and the second jumper open and vóila, went past the point of "Setup is starting Windows" and began to install on the HDD.
So it is looking increasingly like a conflict with the Athlon's of the 1800 variety...
On an aside about temps, I found that an hour on Prime95 can "cook" the artic silver and gain anything up to a 4 degree average cooler temp, I also use S2K bus disconnect software as well as them Palomino cores don't like switching themselves off into the halt states do they?
BTW Delux state that the PSU should exceed the given expectations but I wonder about this as I had to condition the output because it was quite wide in its fluctuations on the scope, I found a thing on the net on how to condition the output, so that it never drops under the expected voltage but can freely be drawn on as demand requires. The advantage of the Peliter kit was I could run other fans directly off it leaving the 12V rails with less demand but pulse emulators are never as good as a 2700rpm rotor in keeping the board assured that a fan is spinning. The MSI board isn't exactly abound with fan plugs...
Thanks all again
Ancient One

Possible K7N2 Delta-ILSR Problem?

Hi all.
I'm after some advice, if I may be so bold.
As you can see from my sig, i'm running a k7n2 Delta ilsr mobo with a 333MHZ Athlon XP3000+, which is being correctly reported.
I've got 2x 512Mb DDR400 modules in slots 1 & 2.
A powercolor Radeon 9600 Pro 256Mb in the AGP slot.
My problem is this :
When playing a game (IE BF1942, Tiger Woods 2004, NFS Underground), the game will play fine for the first few minutes, then will either exit to the desktop or reboot the machine.
I've updated all the drivers I can think of (Latest NVidia nforce drivers, latest ATI catalyst, latest mobo bios)
I've done a burn in test in SiSoft Sandra, which doesnt reveal anything out of the ordinary.
Now i'm stumped.
Any1 got any ideas where I can go from here?
Thanks in advance for any help.

List Power supply amp ratings from sticker on its side for 3.3 volt, 5 volt and 12 volt. mim is 3.3 24 amps, 5 30 amps and 12 16 amps these or mim more is better.
Download and run memtest86 http://www.memtest86.com/
Lower memory timings, if Traz 6 3 3 2.5 try 7 3 3 2.5 or 8 4 4 2.5 or lower cas to 3 if 2.5.
Check IRQ should have 22 if not reload XP with APIC enabled in bios and PNP disabled. PNP is a hold over from 95, PC2001 APIC Standard works much better with XP/2000.
Even if ram shows errors it may not be bad may just not support the Nvidia chip controlers.
Up grade Nvidia unified drivers from Nvidia web sit not the one on MSI Nvidia one newer.
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
Do you have the lattest drivers for sound card I've had them cause lots of problems if driver not compatiable.
Flash bios to 7.6 if haven't done so yet.
Just wrote this in another forum and copied to here.

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