K7N2 Delta-L: Strange cold boot problem & solution

My K7N2 Delta-L has a problem cold booting when the vcore is set in the bios at 1.65v of higher. After a cold boot, you get a blank black screen. I noticed that even if you run at default speeds but set the vcore to 1.65v of higher the problem still occurs. There is no problem rebooting however.
I found the following solutions:
1. After you power up and get a blank, hit the reset button.
2. Don't unplug your PC. My PC is connected to a AVR and after I power down the PC I usually turn the AVR off. If i do this, than the computer will have a booting problem if I try to boot it up 30 minutes later or so. Now if I don't unplug it/power off the AVR than everything is fine.
I don't understand why it acts the way it does though.
Does anyone know of any other solutions?

Have you cleared the cmos. If you do be sure you have the power turned off don't move the cmos jumper with the power on.
I found that turning off power at power supply and unpluging, than turning on the computer the fans will spin just a little this drains all the power. Clear cmos 2-3 than return to
1-2 position.
Than plug the power back in and turn it back on, than try the computer again.

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