K7N2 Delta & SATA RAID

Good day, I have not been sucessfull in gettind the onboard SATA working, and when I tried a promise SATA (non raid) controller card, the system halted at the 378 screen, I guess they were conflicting.
Now that I still want SATA I would like to know if this card:
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=150917&Category_Code=HDCards
would conflict as well?
Thanks

BigMak,
There are several things you need to do to use the onboard SATA RAID:
1) Set SCSI in the Boot Order of the BIOS
2) In the SATA RAID Contoller you need to setup a RAID Array with your SATA Drive.
3) When you start the WinXP install you need to hit F6 and install the SATA RAID Drivers.
If you are going to use a PCI SATA Contoller, you need to put it in PCI Slot 3.
Take Care,
Richard
P.S. as for your question in the other thead, I do love my Raptor Drives.

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hi ho,
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hi
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Can MSI K7N2 DELTA use SATA harddrive without using RAID??
THNAK YOU

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