K7N2 Delta temp, MSI is driving me mad...

I'd like to know what are they doing, temps readings are crazy...
with BIOS v5.0 --> CPU temp: 55º C
with BIOS v5.2 --> CPU temp: 35º C
with BIOS v5.4 --> CPU temp: 55º C

Quote
Originally posted by andovers1
No,PCAlert does not work properly with the new bios and is supposed to be corrected in the next bios. Try using speedfan it runs the same as your bios. Yes my temps are up 10c with the new bios so my CPU is running 38c idle instead of 28c.
ENOUGH! X(
The fact that PCalert does not work with BIOS 5.3/5.4 is totally unsubstantiated. As I said, it's the only prog whose reading did NOT change with the new BIOS, suggesting it somehow bypasses BIOS readings. Speedfan, on the other hand, gives EXACTLY the same readings as BIOS - in other words, this piece of rubbish simply reads the BIOS values, simple as that.
U state that a future BIOS release will have modified temp readings. If that's true, then for how many BIOS generations will we have to wait till these @$£%#¤! finally get their firmware to work properly?
Ever since I switched to v5.4, BIOS, Speedfan and MBM5 have shown me an idle temp of OVER 53°C !!!    X(
I find this hardly plausible, considering that my case & mboard are fitted with:
- Aero 7+ (copper HSF + radial fan) on FULL power, and yes, I've checked the thermal grease over & over again, it's properly applied. I've done this countless times before.
- 2 80mm case fans both running at full speed, and in extraction mode, thus drawing hot air out of case. U might tell me that only one fan has to pull air out, whilst the other has to draw air in, but I've tried that: CPU temp then increases by around 3°C! I dunno about U, but I'd rather settle with 53°C which is already way too hot for an idle temp.
- All internal cables (IDE, power, etc...) in my case are "out of the way" so as to avoid hindering proper airflow and causing hot air build-up.
Besides, as I said B4, how do U explain that PCalert readings haven't changed despite BIOS update???
So don't tell me that the new BIOS shows the correct temps - not only does it not make sense, but it would also imply that my CPU temp is over 11°C above the previous value! It was bad enough at its former 42°C (and rocketing beyond 55°C when running UT2003) - especially given YOUR own value (U're at 38°C idle with the NEW BIOS ??!).
So I dare not imagine that the real CPU temp could actually be above 50°C. Simply irrationnal - considering what I've previously said - and this would drive me MAD. MAD!  
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OK perhaps I'm somewhat overreacting... this temp issue has me baffled...overwrought...exhausted. Need a good rest..  :(

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