K7N2-ILSR: adding S-ATA drive to existing system

Hello everyone,
I have a system based on the K7N2-ILSR, Athlon 2500+, 2x160GB IDE Harddrives.
Now I wanted to connect a S-ATA drive (with data on it) from a friend, but I can't get it to show under Windows XP Pro. I've installed the drivers for the Promise chipset and this is shown in the device manager. I understand that you have to create a "1 disk array" before the drive can be used but I can't afford to loose the data on it. Is there any possibility to connect the drive without having to format it?
Thanks in advance,
Bomfunk

Quote from: Bomfunk on 11-February-07, 18:52:53
What type of array do I have to create in order for it to work?
Any parameters I have to be aware of?
Thanks for your help,
Bomfunk
standart stripe RAID1+0, use defaults parameters.
about aware as i notice before remember to answer with "NO" when asked about this:
Do you want to clear boot sector that will.delete any existing data on your hard disks?.Y - Clear boot sector Y/N

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Adding Drive to existing system

What I am wanting to do is add another hard drive to our system. We currently have a RAID 5 Array running on the system but I didn't know if I could just put in the new hard drive or if I need to add it to the array in order for it to work.
When I tried to install the drive, I rebooted the system and it searched for a while then said it could not start up. Now I have opened up the drive and created a volume so am I going to be in trouble if I just installed the drive into the system?
We are currently using Windows Server 2008 and using ServeRAID 8X for the RAID array. If anyone can let me know what the best route would be and/or some information on what to do it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Hi,
Did you add another hard drive on ServeRAID 8X or on your computer? You could directly add the hard drive on your computer or create a new array on ServeRAID 8X.
Creating a Disk Array (ServeRAID)
http://www.elhvb.com/mobokive/eprm/epr3d/15696.htm
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MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR and Serial ATA Drive

I've got a very strange problem....
Yesterday i have installed my new motherboard (MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR) but i have a problem with the SATA feature.
I've got two drives : one 40GB ATA (Western Digital) and one 160GB SATA also from Western Digital.
My SATA drive is recognized by the FastTrak BIOS (v2) but i'm unable to reinstall Windows XP Professional (with SP2 Slipstreamed) because Windows Setup didn't recognize the SATA disk. I have loaded the Promise Serial ATA Drivers at the begin of the installation (F6)...
I have also tried 2 different versions of the Promise SATA Drivers; the one that cames with my motherboard CD, and the most recent from the MSI website. But with both drivers the same result. How can i get my Serial ATA Harddisk get work with this motherboard?
Any help will be appreciated.
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AMD Athlon XP 2500+
2x 256MB Kingston PC3200 Dual Channel
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb (R360)
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Thanks for your reply Richard,
My motherboard didn't came with a floppy (I have bought an bulk version..) I have created a SATA floppy by myself. (I have got the drivers from the motherboard cd..) These drivers are also good, right?
Which type of RAID Array should i create? Because i have only one SATA drive.....
I think the "auto" feature is the easiest way?
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Adding a Serial ATA Drive from old windows machine?

Hi,
I have recently bought a new Mac Pro, to complete my conversion from Windows to Mac. However, in my old Windows machine, I have a 120GB Serial ATA hard drive.
I believe that I wouldn't be able to simply put this 120GB drive into my Mac Pro, as it is in NTFS format, which Mac cannot understand. I think that it has to be in FAT32 format, correct? So, if I was to re-format this serial ATA drive into FAT32, would it be able to work in my machine? Or are there more compatibility issues I might face? (Make, Model, Age issues?). I assume most SATA drives are similar, and that it should work, but I thought I should probably check before attempting it!
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Steve

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Extended Hard Drive Preparation
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2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Set the number of partitions from the dropdown menu (use 1 partition unless you wish to make more.) Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button and set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the volume(s) mount on the Desktop.
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5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
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Raid Problem - K7n2 Ilsr

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[nForce] K7N2-ILSR Problem with FSB

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K7N2-ILSR IDE/RAID Slot 3

Hi Guys, I have built and repaired a number of PC's over the years but I've never had any experience of RAID. I've just treat myself to a new system based around the K7N2-ILSR board and would like to know if the RAID channel of IDE port 3 Can be used and accessed just the same as any other IDE channel. I was thinking of future expansion should my existing drives approach capacity could I simply use this channel to add another drive.
I would appreciate any advise on this subject.
Thanks

you can connect 1 harddrive to ide3.
and you must create a raid0 array even if its alone.
with a hacked bios its possible to use 2 drives.
sofar only talked to one guy and he used 2 sata and 2 pata in 2 raid0 arrays and it worked good for him

K7N2-ILSR IDE Raid

Dear Tech Wizards,
Stupid little question...
Any performance issues with hooking up two IDE drives (ATA 133) onto the IDE 3 Raid connection on the K7N2-ILSR MB?
Just curious since my ASUS board (P4PE) using individual IDE connectors for the IDE setup (you know, one drive, one connector).
This is my foray into MSI territory. I have always used ASUS boards in the past. I like the layout of this board since it has the new NForce chip set and IDE Raid. When I'm done, I'll have 2 GByte DDR 2700 RAM (matched 1 GByte chips), AMD XP 3000+ Barton, and two 120 MByte Maxtors (240 GByte) plus one other 120 GByte Maxtor on another IDE line for the OS. Raids are tempermental and it is best not to have all your eggs in one basket. I have found that AMD chips just kick ass for numerical computations. They are about 30% faster than Intel's. AMD's integer calculation capabilities are much, much better.
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Originally posted by predictive
Yeah -- I sort of read the manual -- but being sort of a tech newbie I just wasn't sure about the IDE3 requirement.
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I can tell you more, if you like to.Quote
Ohhh well -- so it goes in the world of computing.
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So, it looks like it is back to the trenches to find a decent MB that has IDE RAID and the NForce Ultra 400 chipset.
What about a mainboard without RAID. I don't think you get a mainboard with full-onboard-raid ever. That's the marketing of promise, highpoint et al. If I knew it former, I would have bought the delta K7N2-ILS. Onboard VGA and onboard RAID are not the best choice !!

K7N2 ILSR random re-booting

Hi all
Specs..
K7N2 ILSR Delta
AMD Athlon XP2800+
512 mb Kingston Ram
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Slave: WD 80 gb
Serial ATA: Maxtor 120gb
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