K7N2-L IDE

Hi, I've had my computer together for a few months now. Everything's great except for 2 things:
1. It will not restart or reset, it hangs at "detecting IDE devices.
2. I have a CD with some .exes on it. Some of the files will not copy due to I/O error. If I add an old CD-rom as a slave to my main one both of them work fine.
I had long since given up on figuring out these relatively minor issues. It still kind of bothers me sometimes though. Does anyone have any ideas? I have tried different cables. Bios is set to auto for UDMA. Should I try another setting? There are bunches of them for PIO and DMA and I don't know what they are. Thanks.

first of all thx for your help
I deleted the nv* files and re-installed the 2.03 drivers without IDE HW - now the drive is not recognized as SCSI anymore but it still won't work - I still get a flashing light and discs are not read  ;(  I also tried an old 4X CD-ROM drive which resulted in the same errors.
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Originally posted by gfilitti
That won\'t matter since the drivers don\'t come into effect during POST and booting from a CD.
yeah, I thought so too - but it seems to act on boot just as in win - this is strange  ?(
anyone got an idea what else I can try

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