K7N2 vs KT3 ultra

i bought some components & i have same memory modules both system & i get really good answers new 128bit architehcures
PCMARK2002 memory tests
KT3 Ultra APACER 2x512mb 333mhz DDR
------------------------- 3652 points
-------------------------------------------------- 5421 points
K7N2 Nforce2 APACER 2x512mb 333mhz DDR
K7N2 DELTA-ILSR
3000+ Barton 166FSB(333mhz)
2x512mb APACER 166FSB(333mhz)
Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB Hercules
120GB Maxtor IDE
Samsung SyncMaster 959NF
LG DVD/CD-RW Combo
3dmark03 5600 points

any new agp card will work in it
a x 8 card will just run at x4
but as thats just a few percent slower who cares

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MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU video lock-ups

Hello,
I have a 3 month old MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU. I am running Windows XP Professional and I am having a periodic lock-up where the screen will show blinking colored blocks and the system will freeze. Sometimes just hitting reset will cure the problem. Other times, hitting reset will create two vertical stripes of colored blocks scrolling down the screen. I have used the board on two entirely separate systems (One with AMD Athlon 2000+, Gainward GeForce 4200, 512 MB Samsung 2700 DDR, Western Digital Expert HD (tried both IDE #1 and RAID controller) (Other System, Athlon 1800+, a different Gainward Geforce 4200, 256 Crucial 2700 DDR, an older Maxtor hard drive). In either system, every once in a while, the system will freeze as described above (it has happened in Netscape 7.0, Microsoft Word 2000, America's Army game).
I have played around with the bios settings, reformatted hard drives, tried various revisions of the nvidia display drivers, swapped out video cards, etc. Any ideas? Do I have a bad board? Do I need to flash the BIOS? If the board is bad, what do I need to do to return it?
Thanks,
Matt Gumaer

The second system has a 330 watt enermax power supply. With the new system I put together, I put virtually the same board (MSI KT3 Ultra 2 with bluetooth and RAID), everything is the same as my first system (except the KT3 Ultra-ARU) and the stability is fine. So, I'm reasonably confident its not the power supply.

Msi kt3 ultra, msi gf4 4200 tvout problem

I have a msi gf4 4200 64mb card and i have a msi kt3 ultra aru and windows xp,
my problem is tv out is garbled in pal , ntsc is grey (iam in europe), the colours seem inverted blues are red, etc and theres a ghosting effect around moving images like in videos or around the cursor
Ive tried everything from default mem setting , to high performance , tried diferent driver sets , tried windows 2000, tried via chipset drivers, latest msi, nvidia gf drivers, pal b , g , i , 60hz, diferent resolutions, clone view, single output to tv, stretch view , nothing seems to fix it, the only thing that comes close to fixing it is using the tvtool http://tvtool.info/ with color fix correction activated, but the images isnt stable its got a weird strecthing, shimmering effect on the bottom half of the tv image
Iam sure that the problem is not tv or cable related because i tried a friends p4 (board msi sis 645dx) with the exact same model gf4 4200 (not my one) with my scart cable and tv set up and it worked fine.
Could it be a voltage problem? ive even tried upping agp and core voltage a bit to see if helps, and nothing

mhuizing,
nope havent tried a diferent tv , but it should work , i tested the connection with a friends computer
exact same gfx card model and it worked fine!
My old system leadtek gf3 ti200 , epox 8kha+ worked fine with this connection.
Iam using a scart cable to a video , then from the vid to the tv via antena cable
i upgraded and voila, i got some headaches for free :P !!!

KT3 Ultra 2 Keyboard lock-ups

I have a problem I haven't seen the answer to. Just built a PC with MSI KT3 Ultra 2, 2000XP processor, GeForce4 Ti 4200 64 MB vid card, 256MB, Windows ME. System has been stable for about 2 weeks now, but yesterday and today it has locked up the keyboard while web browsing (no other programs running). Not sure what is occurring. I have an intake and 2 exhaust fans and temps appear to be well with in acceptable ranges. After this occurs, windows will lock-up on reboot at the ME splash screen. Then sometimes, the pc wil reboot on the following restart fine. Other times, it locks up again with an illegal division error after the splash. No programs or hardware added lately that would have caused this.

The second system has a 330 watt enermax power supply. With the new system I put together, I put virtually the same board (MSI KT3 Ultra 2 with bluetooth and RAID), everything is the same as my first system (except the KT3 Ultra-ARU) and the stability is fine. So, I'm reasonably confident its not the power supply.

Kt3 ultra and 9600xt fast write

Amd Barton 2500
dr. thermal ti-77n
Kt3 Ultra standard mobo w/5.7bios
Antec performance II sx835II case w/350 psu
Corsair 512 2100 x3
Ati 9600xt
Audigy ZS gamer
as some of u may be aware the 9600 family of cards are very picky about fast writes. In order to run games without lock ups/crashes i must enable fast writes. The problem is that when i do, i get corrupt text, lines around my cursors, video lag etc etc. I recently switch to a barton 2500 that is running a 1.87ghz at 133fsb, before i ran an 1800 that did not have any of these problems with fast write enabled. bios and xp recognixed it as a 2500+ and i have the ratio set to auto and memory set to HCLK. I tried varios drivers for the gfx card and all produced the same results. Also tried all combinations of bios fast write on gfx control panel off, on etc. any ideas?
TIA
-leo
pic of lines/box around cursor

fast write disabled = game willl lock, the 9600 family of cards are notorious for this, i was able to fix my corrupt text and cursor problem by moving the slider under troubleshooting in the ati panel down a notch. in game im still seeing some problems though, hopefully the game specific forums can give me some help. thiis is really annoying because the dam game ran fine with my 1800 i went to the 5.09 drivers on the reccomendation from another forumite.
screeny to show in game problem for those that care
www.theoldschoolers.com/Forums/uploads/post-11-1134154170.jpg
anyways this is more specific game related matter now, but i figured id post up a follow up for u guys anyways

KT3 Ultra-ARU not work with ATI 9600pro?

Hi,
I have recently(yesterday) bought an ATI 9600pro, to upgrade my old GF2pro. As the title says, I have the KT3 Ultra-ARU(MS-6380E)
There seems to be lockup problems that involve only certian games and the ATI DVD player. In all instances the lock ups happen when the mouse is moved. With respect to the ATI DVD player, it will lock if the mouse is moved over the video window.
I have tried a few things but nothing works, so I am posting here to try and see if someone knows something and I will contact ATI in a few hours, or maybe tomorrow.

For via chipset (kt333 based msi kt3 ultra-aru) i can now obtain full hardware acceleration and 100% stable for c&c generals game by:
1) download and install latest catalyst 3.7 driver/control panel/samartgart from ati.
2) disable fast-write in bios..
3) go to c:programsati technologyati control panel and execute smartgart
4) enable - pci read/write and agp read.
5) disable - agp write (default in my case was on causing the problem).
6) "apply", reboot, then "ok".

KT3 Ultra 2R + Barton 3000+

Hi all..
Hope someone can help.
I have a KT3 Ultra 2R board with the following stats:
Athlon XP (Barton) 3000+ FSB 166 CPU
CoolerMaster HHC-001 heatpipe H/sink with 80mm fan
Antec 520W PSU
2 x 100 ATA Maxtor Viper 80Gb HDD's with 8Mb cache each in striped RAID array
Asus TI 4600 Ultra 128Mb V/card
Audigy S/card
Lite-on CD/RW
Lite-on CD/DVD
2 x 512Mb Corsair XMS 3000 DDR Ram (333 and above) with aluminium heat spreaders
Lian-Li PC70 Tower case with 6 x 80mm fans
Rounded cables throughout
Win XP + SP1
The Problem:
This system worked fine with an Athlon XP 2200 CPU and I read MSI's CPU support list and saw the KT3 Ultra 2 6380E supported the Barton XP 3000+ CPU's so I bought one. :P
At first I had trouble booting on the 5.7 version bios, with the lock ups throught the bootup process. I reset the bois to the defaults and slowly worked up the settings using the recommendations in the forums.
At the moment, the system will boot up with fast command set to normal, no agressive DDR timings, 1T command disabled, fastwrite disabled, agp read/write disabled and SDRAM set to SPD (HCLK).
My 3DMark01 & 3DMark03 scores are lower than when I had the XP 2200 CPU installed and the SiSoft sandra results are the equivalent of a Athlon 2000. MSI says the board supports the Barton 3000+, but at what cost ??? :O
The system is very unstable and and requires on average 3 boots to boot up successfully. The 3DMark03 test often locks up mid way.
Any help or the settings MSI or you used to achieve their results would be VERY helpful. Please Help... ;(

I have had a similar problem running my kt3 ultra2 (non raid) at 166 fsb. In mid april I bought a 2600+ 166 fsb athlon to upgrade my system from a 1.2 ghz athlon. I bought some new pc2700 crucial ram to go along with the processor. I had also recently bought a radeon 9700 pro in late march, and a 1.2 athlon would just be a waste of this great vid card. I had been running fine with the radeon and the 1.2 athlon with the msi 5.7 bios and 4.43 via 4-in-1's.
I battled this problem for weeks. I bought a new antec 550 watt PSU, corsair xms 3200 ram, and new antec tower case trying to find out if the problem was ram, power or heat. I should also note that turning on spread spectrum helped a little in stability. Setting it to .50% made it stable in windows and games, but the computer would not turn on if shutdown unless I cleared the cmos. No setting besides this had any effect on stability. Even conservative ram timings. I was about to buy an Asus a7n8x when I realized that I had once run my old cpu and ram at 166 fsb when I had the 5.6 bios a couple of months back. I did not keep it like that in fear of damaging the ram while overclocked.
So I reflashed to 5.6 which still supported the 2600+. That finally worked almost perfectly, although I still have to keep spread spectrum at .25% to be stable (which is odd, people say that is supposed to hurt stability). So in my situation, it was the bios that was faulty. I have had some very ramdom crashes to the desktop (3 of them) in games and one hardlock with a blank bluescreen in unreal2. This is over a span of a month. So it is not perfect. It might be the display drivers causing this, which I have recently upgraded, or I might need to back off my ram timings which are at 2-2-2-5 which this ram can handle easily at 166. 3dmark has yet to crash. Prime 95 passed when I ran it for 30 minutes. Im going to run prime 95 today and see if it will run for like 12 hours stable. Im still looking into getting a new nforce 2 mobo, however (abit or asus).
I hope this helps your situation, you should give it a try. Although, the 5.6 bios does not support the 3000+. It might still work, it will maybe just not show up as a 3000+ in the bios, but as a 2.17 Athlon XP.
I think MSI should be made aware of this possible 5.7 bios fsb instability. Why spread spectrum seems to be related in my situation, is really odd also.

KT3 Ultra Aru xp2400?

Hi
I have been building my new PC for the last few month now it need 1 part a cpu. will the new AMD xp2400 be compaterble with my MSI KT3 Ultra Aru v1.0?
if not what is the highest cpu it will take
Thanks in Advance
Widowmaker
KT3 Ultra Aru
Coolermaster 200ATCS case
Gainward GeForce 4 4600 with firewire card
ocz 256 mb ddr400 (samsung)
Maxtor 133 40gb hdd x 2
DigiDoc5 (black)
Yamaha cd-rw (t@2)
thermaltake volcano 7+
AMD xp?????

I wish MSI would post something about the new Athlons XP's. I would think that they should have a few of the processors already. Every review sight seems to have thier hands on one. I did see in the bios updates that they posted a BIOS update for the KT3 Ultra-C on 8/26/02 that says it adds support for the XP 2400+
I have never seen this board anywhere though. I have seen other motherboard manufactures have BIOS updates for them already. This is my first time buying an MSI board and I hope that they get on the ball about this or it may be my last MSI board. I guess I won't start to worry to much until I can actually find a 2400 to buy, but it would be nice to here something from MSI. If my KT3 Ultra2-R won't support the new processors then I can buy a 2200+ now and end my wait.

KT3 Ultra-ARU SB Live! problem when using onboard Promise MBFasttrak 1

Hello !
I have one little problem with my motherboard. I know it's a little bit older compared to today's MSI production.. I have a MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU motherboard. I used only VT8233A southbridge's IDE until now, and everything worked perfectly. But now, I bought two Maxtor 80GB disks and placed them to a onboard Promise MBFasttrak 133 Lite (PDC20276) RAID in stripping mode. Everything works, except Soundblaster Live!. The soundcard itself works normally, but when I start to copy some files (and have some MP3's or video's running) the audio gets distorted in rythm with data transfer. I checked IRQs or address spaces, but IDE is on another IRQ than any other device, the same is address space. Had anyone the same experience with this "problem" ? Please let me know...
My configuration:
MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU
AMD Athlon XP 1700+
256MB RAM DDR 333
2x Maxtor DiamondMax 9 80.0GB
nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
ATi TVWonder
RTL8029 ethernet card
SoundBlaster Live! 5.1
Teac CD-E540 cd-rom
Sony DRU-190A cd-rw

Hi,
I think you should install at least the VIA RPP patch (http://www.viaarena.com), maybe also the patch from http://www.georgebreese.com.
Hans

KT3 Ultra ARU Slow HD Transfer Rates

Hello,
First, please see my system information at the bottom of this message.
I have a MSI KT3 Ultra ARU motherboard and have installed a Maxtor ATA133 60GB hard drive with 2 MB cache. The hard drive is jumpered as Master and is connected all by itself on the IDE1 ribbon cable. On IDE2 I have a CDRW (Master) and a CD-ROM (Slave). My other hard drive (WD 120GB ATA100 8 MB cache) is on IDE3 and is set up in RAID 1+0 stripe.
I recently ran the Sandra file system benchmark on my hard drives with what I think are very discouraging results. My Maxtor drive on IDE1 scored 32 MB/s and my WD drive on IDE3 came in at 23 MB/s. Those are some stinky results aren’t they?
I checked my Device Manager under IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers and it indicates that for my Primary IDE Channel the current transfer mode for device 0 is Ultra DMA Mode 6. I don’t know how to check the transfer mode on my IDE3 hard drive.
Question #1: Are my 32 MB/s and 23 MB/s results slow for my hardware?
Question #2: If these results are slow, how can I increase the transfer rates?
Please help!
Thank you!!!!
My System
AMD Athlon XP 3000+
MSI KT3 Ultra ARU MOBO
2 x 256MB DDR PC2700 SDRAM
ATI Radeon 9600XT 256MB
Western Digital WD1200JB 120GB Caviar HD ATA100 8MB Cache 1+0 Stripe/RAID0
Maxtor 6Y060L0 60GB HD ATA133
Pioneer DR-A04S CD-ROM 32X
Lite-On LTR-48125W 48x12x48 CDRW
TTGI TT-350SS (350W) Power Supply
PSU Ratings: +3.3V/28A +5V/35A +12V/16A
Windows XP Home SP2

These tranfer rates seem fine for sequential read rates. The maxtor drive is at mode 6 and the WD should be at mode 5 if its ATA100.

KT3 Ultra-ARU battle

Hello!
I have a Pentagram Dark 56I modem (Lucent win modem) installed on MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU. Everything is working now except my modem witch does not connect to the internet (only one out of fifty connections is successful). I haven’t got any idea what is wrong and what settings in bios are responsible for the work of internal PCI modem with MSI motherboard. The modem is 100% efficient (it worked fine during 13 months, latest driver, proper settings, checked on another computers), telephone line too. I tried all bioses 5.1, 5.3, 5.4, 5.6, all PCI slots, Windows 98, 98se, Me, 2000, XP pro, PCI latency patch, another mouse and keyboard. Now I am going to suicide ;( . Do you have any idea what else can be wrong (I disconnect every peripheries): broken motherboard, memory (1x256 DDR PC2100, checked in all slots) or my Athlon XP 1800+? ?(
Help me please!
MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU
Athlon XP 1800+ (TITAN cooler)
1x256 DDR PC2100
Leadtek Winfast 200TH
Maxtor 40GB ATA 133
Lucent Win Modem
TV card
Codegen 6016 300W PSU
LG DVD x16/48
CDRW LiteOn 48/12/48

Hi,
Disable the COM ports (If not using them) then try another modem.
Lee

Kt3 Ultra-aru Processor Speeds?

Hi There,
I'm running the MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU (MS-6380E v1.X) with an AMD Athlon XP 2000, I was just wondering what Athlon XP processor speeds this supports upto, and if possible what changes I might need to make to the Bios, Would I need to flash my board with a new Bios or just go into my Bios and change some settings.
Thanks for any help, just trying to get ready for Doom 3 and Halflife 2 if they ever appear
Cheers,
Paul.

But there is no guaranty, that a FSB333 AthlonXP will work. The largest CPU that is allowed from MSI is a 2600+ FSB266.
But the chance is pretty high, that a FSB333 Athlon will work, though. It did so on mine KT3 Ultra.
sj

KT3 Ultra-ARU (Chipset fan problem)

Hi!
I have a motherboard from MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU with AMD Athlon XP2000.
I bought last year ago, I have a problem now. My chipset fan that is on the motherboard is not working good anymore it makes lots of damm sound.
Please help me I don't know if there is any garanty to this motherboard or where I can buy this tiny chipset fan.

Its a northbridge cooler
for a low cost solution (ie not having to by an IceBurg cooler to replace it) contact MSI France

KT3- Ultra aru board (ms-6380e series) processor question

Ok i'm running a msi kt3 ultra aru motherboard with bios version 5.7
looking at the cpu charts i'm slightly confused. What I'm wondering is can I run an athlon 3000 processor on this board? I know its going to raise the bus speed up but I'm running pc2700 ram right now so I dont see that being a problem.
anyone either running a newer processor on this board, or who would know the answer, it would be appreciated....
thx!

You guys rock. Thanks for the feedback. haven't made the purchase yet, got a friend that manages a compusa thats supposed to be getting me a deal, we'll see I guess....
THANKS AGAIN!!!

KT3 Ultra ARU PC hangs

Hi there.
I have a MSI KT3 Ultra ARU motherboard, AMD XP 2600+, 2x 256 MB Apacher DDR 333 and a Radeon 9700 Pro card. Yesterday I changed CPU from Thunderbird 1.4 to XP 2600+. I had some memory problems with one of the apacher modules, but everything worked fine afterwards. I must say my computer including the OS (WinXP Pro) has been realy stable up to now, and I have never seen this kind of a hang before.
I was burning a CD (in 4x) while watching a .avi file and the computer hangs. It did not hang fully at the start. First hang nero, then some other programs, then startmeny and desktop, and then the mouse. PC speaker was making a constant bip the whole time until I restarted...
The system booted up, but I was wondering what it could be? I have some feeling it may be a memory problem, and will check that later on, but that will take some time. I hope someone here knows what to doo, and help me solve this problem.
Everyone where I am from tells me to buy intel becouse they say AMD is not as stable as intel. I dont think intel is bether than AMD, and my old Thunderbird was rockstable even at 1636 MHz, overclocked by multiplier.

Hi DataFMT,
Thanks!
You should see my IRQ's, I tried to get them all on a single one :D
It doesn't matter if they are shared or not.
But the trouble is, the APIC does try to seperate them for the CPU's (Yes CPU's) as it's Multi-CPU specification and designed to seperate them in order to let the appropriate CPU handle the IRQ instead of all off them at the same time.
On a single CPU system this is stupid to use as the CPU needs to respond to every IRQ anyway.
Microsoft gas gone totaly nuts on this matter and their article about the APIC is as stupid as it can be.
They are mixing all sorts of (A)Pic's without knowing what they are doing.
Ever wondered why Multi-CPU systems are so hard to get stable when the need for high-load is there?
Every system today has multiple PIC (programmable IRQ controller).
The first old one is called PIC, that one needs to be programmed for every IRQ and has a hard time on IRQ sharing and the OS needs to program it, when you use Standard-PC, that's the one you use.
Not a good one to use as it slows the system down.
So far Microsoft is right.
The next one is the Local-APIC (A=Advanced), this one can share IRQ's without problems and sort of programs itself, ergo, you can't change IRQ's, and there is no need to do so anyway.
This one is used when you enable ACPI and use ACPI-compliant-system.
It's fast, stable and very OS/driver friendly.
Then you have the I/O APIC, in the chipset, that one is the APIC/MPS the BIOS setting controls.
MS screws up here big time, this one translates the real IRQ's into addresses and feeds them to the CPU PIC or Local-APIC, depend if ACPI is enabled or not.
This one is a trouble maker, because the translation isn't needed for a single CPU system and not all drivers like it's behavior.
Another thing is that it needs to buffer a lot, and when driving your system to the limits it can jump IRQ signals because the servicing of them can be a bit behind.
This looks like the system is faster, but a jump can cause a lot of trouble.
Good samples of this happening are running too fast/slow system clock in WinNT/2000/XP when you have a heavy load.
Do a search in google and you see plenty examples.
Another good example of this is caused by Norton, that can disturb the sound when Apic is used.
I have discussed with MSI why APIC was turned on by default, they said it was stupid, but the PC-2001 spec requires this....and guess who wrote the spec???? :D
I have also seen that a lot of other Mobo makers are starting to turn the APIC off by default and let you run with the Local-Apic by default.
A far better choice if you ask me, but then who asks me??? :P

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