K7N2G-ILSR raid boot problem

Hi,
I have an msi K7N2G-ILSR mobo and am having boot problems on the raid system.
Everything worked fine (raid 0 set up sata) and would boot fine, the bios had to be set up to look for other boot devices in order for the system to boot with raid drives.
Problem occurred when I added an ide card to give me 2 more ide channels. Still fine if I only connect cd roms to new card but as soon as I connect a hard drive it appears the msi board stops looking for the raid drives as a boot device, because I get the message NIVIDIA Boot Agen PXE-2.0(build 082 v1.82)
Copyright......................(info)
Copyright......................(info)
CLIENT MAC ADDR 00 10 DC E1 4C AD GUID:
FFFFFFFFFF..-FFF..-FFFFFF... etc.
PXE-53: No boot filename received.
PXE-MOF: Exiting NVIDIA Boot Agent
DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER
It seams there needs to be a bios update as when you scroll through boot options (first, second & third) in advanced setup there is no choice for raid. Therefore the only way to boot from raid is to choose “look for other boot devices” and that is OK until you add a second ide card with hard drive on.
I have version 1.6 bios (latest on msi`s site)
Any idears on how to get round this ?

Hi Raven,
For your info windows xp will support any number of ide channels (upto the number of spare pci slots you have).
I have another computer that has 2 extra ide cards in and has 2 dvd`s (on seprate channels) & 6 hard drives as well as raid hard drive set up. Windows is not confused and supports all devices and has done for the last few months ! This mobo has boot from raid in its bios so has no problems on boot up. The reason I need so many ide channels is simply I do video work and need loads of storage space so until I can buy 800gb hard drives for a reasnable price I am stuck with having to buy 200gb drives.
As I said it looks like either a bios update from msi or I`m going to have to buy a new mobo.
Regards.

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Mandiven, I had a similar issue where it would boot and get stuck on the logo screen. My diagnostic LED's also showed two green, two red.
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I have a feeling I'm stuck with this, but maybe there's a eureka-moment I've missed? Having looked through the forum I've seen similar problems but I'm not sure this is the same.
Problem is with a K7N2G-ILSR that 70% fails to boot (RAM error), 10% boots with half RAM, and 20% boots OK. Full system spec:
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K7N2G-ILSR (0304082234) (BIOS v1.6)
Athlon-XP 2600+ (2.083GHz)
2 * 512MB PC2700 (slots 2 & 3) (RAM branded "MV")
2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200/8 160GB S-ATA hard drives (mirrored)
Samsung floppy
Panasonic SW-9581-C DVD-writer (IDE2 master)
PS/2 kb & mouse
Antec Lanboy case (comes with Antec SmartBlue 350W PSU)
Antec SmartBlue max load details:
+5V - 35A
-5V - 0.5A
+12V - 16A
-12V - 0.8A
+3.3V - 28A
+5VSB - 2.0A
+5V & +3.3V max combined output: 230W
+5V & +3.3V & +12V max combined output: 330W
Cooling:
AKASA 824cu-RED (copper base, 8cm fan) (into 4pin from PSU)
AKASA GREEN LED 8CM CRYSTAL FAN (into 4pin from PSU)
All 4 MSI brackets are plugged in.
No AGP or PCI cards.
CPU idles at 30C, sustained load at 40C.
=====================================================
I've tried all the CMOS reset, battery in/out etc suggestions with no change in symptoms.
Disconnecting HDs, DVD and front fan make no difference. BIOS v1.2, 3, 4, 5, 6 make no difference.
This is the 2nd motherboard... the first one (rest of system unchanged) worked great as far as booting went but had the INCREDIBLY ANNOYING HIGH-PITCHED NOISE from near the CPU socket. This was after running with the auxillary 12V (4 pin) cable plugged in. According to posts elsewhere in the forum, once that 12V cable has been used you can't get rid of the noise... so this time I have carefully *not* used it. Please don't tell me that the lack of it is why the current system is having problems! La-lah-LA-la-LAH I don't want to know :o)
To get the system to boot I do this (from OFF):
Turn on with front power button.
If memory error (beep and LED pattern):
turn off with front power button
count to ten and start again
If only half RAM on POST screen:
turn off with front power button
count to ten and start again
Otherwise dual channel msg comes up and we have lift-off!
I've tried other rituals (power cable, PSU switch, CMOS reset...) but the result's always the same.
When the system boots properly (1 time in 5) it's great... Win2k is happy and CPU/memory intensive apps are solid. But a Windows restart (or aven Ctrl-Alt-Del after a floppy boot) puts us right back to the problem: 1 time in 5 it'll restart happily, otherwise it's the damned beep-beep-beep!
RAM: yes, it's a brand I'd never heard of but they do seem to be a batch pair. As noted above, both DIMMs were OK in the first K7N2G-ILSR. They're also fine in a Shuttle SN41G2. So I'm a bit sceptical about the veracity of the RAM-error beeps!
So peeps, if you've read this far, any ideas what's causing me (re)boot hell? I think I'd just live with it but for one thing... I really need for this system to be remotely bootable (VNC and a Windows restart req)... hardly likely to work is it?!

wonkanoby: tried the pencil rubber thing but, sadly, no joy.
buggfix: I hear what you say and it is very tempting to plug the aux 12V in. I've got another K7N2G-ILSR in an Antec Plus 1080AMG case (Antec True430 PSU) with the 12V plugged in and no noise (yet). (But it does have a Win2k-srv memory-leak problem and that's why I'm desperate to get the system described at the top of this thread working - essentially a duplicate to let me test installation order.) The noisy board was older (going by s/n) so maybe it was a batch problem and I'd be safe enough now?
0303234967 - noise
0304036761 - OK in Antec 1080
0304082234 - this thread's subject
Now wishing I hadn't tried to make such a low component-count server; shoud've stuck with basic board + NIC + SND + VID cards.
twistedbrowntucker: Possibly there was some follow-on damage, but it doesn't "feel" right. Still, now I'm reduced to the "known good" dance. If I can get the time tomorrow I'm going to break up a Shuttle (SN41G2, XP2600+, 2*512MB, 200GB Maxtor, LG DVDwriter, card reader) and see if I can pinpoint anything... swapping the RAM is number 1 obviously! Then the CPU and then maybe rip apart another PC or two for PSUs... I feel tired already!
My gig is normally software so, although I'm quite happy with hardware, I resent getting bogged down. Usually paying a bit extra for known-brands keeps me out of that - hey, I want to *use* the stuff!
Thanks for your replies peeps.
ASIDE: Question about the HD LED - I'm getting zero activity... should the S-ATA drives be showing up? Or the DVD activity?

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old 10gig HDD
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After this, it changes to a screen where it lists the IRQs for everything, then comes up with a disk I/O error...
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thanks v much for the quick reply!!
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MSI K7N2G-ILSR
2x256 MB Crucial PC2100
Emermax Powersupply
Generic DVD ROM
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MSI TV @nywhere
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As far as I know drivers can be installed in SafeMode, but your LAN wont work till in normal.
A repair install is not a bad idea, as Windows is very fond of its own drivers.
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*Please note that this is generally speaking and mainly for ASUS boards a few years old!
**Please note that you should not have any sharing with the IDE controller or similar!
***Please note that it is a good thing to have expansion PCI sound cards in slot 3!
****Please note that surprisingly enough it looks like PCI slot 2 would be free for any device, but AGP cards get hot and bigger so it is not a great idea.
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PCI 1 shares with PCI slot 5
2 shares with AGP and PCI slot 6, or sometimes with onboard IDE
3 shares not, or sometimes with onboard audio/modem
4 shares with onboard LAN
5 shares PCI slot 1
6 shares with AGP and PCI slot 5
AGP slot shares with PCI slots 5 and 6
USB 1 shares with USB 2, 3 and USB 2.0
2 shares with USB 1, 3 and USB 2.0
3 shares with USB 1, 2 and USB 2.0
USB 2.0 shares with USB 1, 2, and 3
Onboard audio/modemshares not, or sometimes with slot 3
Onboard LAN shares with PCI slot 4
Onboard IDE shares not, or sometimes with PCI slot 2 "

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and...? any changes?
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get a decent PSU with 30A or more on +12V.
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I have already tried two different types of Ram. 512 MB DDR 333 (I don't know the timing exactly but it's a CL2.5 Ram) and another one from a different manufacturer. Also DDR 333 CL 2.5. Then I combined both. But the raid controller didn't show any reaction and I can't imagine that the problem is the power supply because everything else works fine. Anyway... I will try to get a new K7NG2-ILSR on guarantee, sell my whole computer and buy the new K7N2-Delta because I have only problems with the K7N2G-ILSR.

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I have really great problems with my s-ata raid controller. First of all i had a 40GB HDD attached to IDE3. Worked really fine.
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IRQ Number   Device
1   Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
3   Communications Port (COM2)
4   Communications Port (COM1)
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6   Standard floppy disk controller
8   System CMOS/real time clock
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12   PS/2 Compatible Mouse
13   Numeric data processor
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20   Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
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20   NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) MCP Audio Processing Unit
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20   OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
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hello,
sorry for my english...
my configuration :
MSI K7N2G ILSR (all bios and driver upgrade with live bios)
Athlon xp 2600 + barton fsb 333
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I have recently reinstalled my system (K7N2G-ILSR).
It was working fine with a RAID array to boot (set to boot from SCSI in Bios).
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I have 2 additional IDE HDDs and 2 Optical Drives (On IDE1&2).
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I initially thought it must be some confusion with my external SCSI drive trying to boot, but removing made no odds.
I ultimately had to unplug all my non raid HDDs, and it would then boot no problem at all. Unfortunately having got it working, every time I try to plug any IDE HDD back in, it goes back to NTLDR Missing on boot (this is despite boot being set to SCSI in bios, IDE isnt even later in the boot sequence!)
I need to be able to reconnect my drives, but cant find anything comparable in the forum.
Why does it matter if I connect an IDE drive at all when it is set to boot from SCSI (RAID)? Is my bios corrupt or something?
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Thanks Noby and Richard for the advice, and sorry I have been slow to read it - I've been away.
I'm not sure I didn't do my last installation in exactly the way you describe anyway. Still, it's probably worth another go.
I was hoping for an easy solution without reinstalling yet again, since the system is working albeit with only the RAID array connected.
Assuming the other drives do now have an MBR written to them, even if I reinstall windows without them connected, will they not still cause problems when reconnected?
Am I looking at having to wipe the drives and start again with them too?
Even if I do this, does formatting a drive wipe any MBR on it?
Is there not some way to directly edit the boot record on each drive when windows installer doesn't figure it out right?
Sorry for the multitude of questions but I have had this problem time and time again and never found a reliable solution - last time it seemed simple chance that I ever got the board working!
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