K7N2G-ILSR won\\\\\\\'t run memtest at 133MHz fsb

I've already sent an inquiry to MSI technical support but I'm posting here too.
I've owned a DFI AD70 for 1 year running a 1.4GHz Thunderbird, but it has not worked right from the start with 1 DIMM slot being dead the whole time. I bought the MSI board as my stability hasn't been perfect and the one game my wife likes to play with me, Age of Kings, crashes constantly during it. :(
Here' the system I installed the ILSR board in:
TigerPro 300 Watt Power Supply,
Tekram DC390F SCSI controller
Maxtor 40GB 7200 Hard Drive
IBM 4.5GB SCSI Hard Drive
SCSI ZIP Drive
Plextor 40X12X20 IDE CD-RW
NEC 32X SCSI CD-ROM
BestData 56k (Rockwell) Modem
2- 256MB Samsung PC2100 DIMMS
I was using a soundblaster live, and Asus 6800 Geforce
card in my DFI system.
Everything worked well in install, but game Age of Kings was still not stable with MSI board. Instead of crashing or rebooting it would just freeze. After trying Windows 2000 service packs, and every patch I could find, I resorted to pulling out all my expansion cards and disconnecting all the drives but my Maxtor IDE and Floppy. I also disabled everything but onboard video. The game still froze. Finally I tried underclocking the processor. This worked well. I could run the game as long as I was at 130MHz fsb or less. At 133 it would always fail.
Finally after scouring this message board I downloaded memtest-86 v 3.0. I removed my maxtor hard drive so now I had only the bare motherboard and floppy installed. I ran it at default settings and memtest froze 2 minutes into the test. Then I gradually lowered fsb by 1 MHz until I could get it to run for hours at 128MHz (stability in Win 2000 was excellent at this setting too). At 129 it would freeze. The only other settings that worked were lowering clock multiplier to 8.0 and using 133 MHz bus. It also runs fine at 133 MHz memory clock and 100MHz FSB. I tried using my Asus video card without onboard video and same freezing problem.
I also reinstalled my old DFI board, with just my video card and floppy and it ran memtest fine at 133MHz fsb, and the memory modules passed fine.
I was hoping to just buy new RAM, but it works fines for me. There were never any errors reported during any memetest run ?( Also of note I haven't flashed my BIOS if that matters. Any ideas?

3.3V 14A, 5V 30A, 12V 15A
160W combined 3.3V, 5V
The MSI utility says power output is 3.3V, 5V, and 11.70V when I'm running Windows. Although I thought this was low, it runs fine on the old board.
Temps run 52C CPU, system 32C after it has been running for several hours.
I placed a large 21 inch oscillating fan facing straight into the side of my case on high speed, with the case open, and memtest actually failed quicker, but it dropped CPU temp to 51C, and system to 28C.
At 133 MHz, the BIOS is stable and so is Windows 2000, but most games will freeze eventually and Age of Kings right away.

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I agree with previous posters as to your possible power issues. However, did you try setting your FSB jumper to SAFE when clearing CMOS - if not do so!
It's not included on Assaf's CMOS clearing guide on the forum but it's a good idea to do so! It is mentioned in a later post in that thread tho' - see here:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?postid=274732&sid=#274732
Read Assaf's guide then "Santa Claw's" too!
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K7N2G-ILSR Wont boot

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Originally posted by madmanbeck
Mandiven, I had a similar issue where it would boot and get stuck on the logo screen. My diagnostic LED's also showed two green, two red.
When I removed the all the IDE connectors from the motherboard, I was able to finally get into the bios, which suggested to me that the problem may be my IDE drives. At this point, I remembered an issue my girlfriend had on her computer over a year ago with her hard drive (same model as mine) where her drive wouldn't allow her ABIT KT7 MB to boot. We both have the WD600AB model. My previous MB was an Asus K7M, which did not exhibit this issue.
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From what I understand, this doesn't affect the integrity of the data nor does it have any performance penalties. If you'd rather not cut the cable yourself, WD may ship you a modified cable free of charge. You'd need to visit their forums/website for more information.
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K7N2G-ILSR with 2800+ BIOS Settings

I have just changed my CPU from a 2400+ (266mhz) processor to a 2800+ (333mhz) and it won't run with stability unless I leave the CPU FSB Clock at 133mhz (for 266mhz) as it was set before (which means that is goes to 1666mhz CPU speed instead of 2083mhz - is 2083 correct for 2800+ ?).
Can anyone make suggestions for the best settings to make my PC work again. It crashes, blue screens and even the post boot screen is corrupt and flashes strange chars.
I have tried all sorts of combinations and nothing works as long as it is 166mhz FSB. I know that without a AGP Card, it will only run DDR333 but I was hoping my DDR400 would just downclock.
These are the settings I require
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2. CPU FSB Clock - 100?, 133?, 166?
3. CPU Interface - Normal?, High Performance?
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5. Memory Timings
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T-(RCD)
T-(RP)
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My relevant Spec is :
K7N2G-ILSR with AMD 2800+ Retail
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450w PSU
IDE ATA133 IBM 80gb
Windows XP Pro
I know I should of left it alone....Cheers in advance ;(

How can I tell if its a real 2800+.
I paid for a 2800+ Retail Boxed AMD chip with fan etc in the box.
By stepping do you mean overclocked?
I have tried the manual settings but it always shows jumbled letters etc on post and windows is unstable or won't boot.
I am going out later today to buy Corsair XMS2700. Does it matter that they are not in a bundled matched pair? The only pair I can get from my supplier is a 1gb (2x512mb) and its very expensive (£200).

K7N2GM-L Won't run any 3d apps

Hi all, I have scoured these boards for an answer with no luck, so here I go:
I built this machine for my moms trophy shop to do basic 2d artwork like creating logos and stuff on Corel Draw.
K7N2GM-L
2x256 Kingmax PC2700
Barton 2500+
WD 80gig Caviar
Lite-on CDRW
Supercase mid tower w/350w Allied PSU
3.3v@28a
5v@35a
12v@16a
[email protected]
History: I originally bought 1 512 stick of PC3200 Mushkin ram and had fits just getting rig to boot. Finally got it to boot, but only at 100mhz. Installed winxp, all updates, dx9.0b, chipset drivers, video drivers(5672's).
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TIA

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Originally posted by cdm
yeah I knew that. Sorry I ment was the Chipset drivers (Nforce drivers) try using latest Platform/Nforce drivers/ Unified driver from Nvidia's website.
Yes I have the latest Nforce drivers. First thing I did after windows updates.

MSI K7N2G-ILSR chipset fan stopped working. Help please.

I have an MSI K7N2G-ILSR motherboard. A couple days ago I started hearing a fluttering/groaning noise coming from inside the machine. I finally discovered it was coming from the small fan on the chipset.
Well, today I decided to try and take the fan off and fix it. After I blew some dust off of it, I put it back on the chipset heatsink and it failed to work at all. It's now broken.
Here are some questions I have.
1. Are these fans easy to replace? Where can I get one? Any brand suggestions?
2. I'm currently running my computer without this fan (but the heatsink is still affixed to the chipset). Is this bad? Will it kill my computer?
3. If it won't "kill" my computer what are the downsides to having no fan on the chipset?
4. My temperatures are now 10 degrees lower than when the fan was actually working. Have any idea why the temperatures are lower?

i also used the vantec one (copper like Flatblader) i got it at fry's for $10, it seems to be quieter and i used the smaller extra heatsink on the southbridge (just because it fits, i don't think it really gets all that hot) and i haven't found anywhere to put the other extra heatsink (bigger than the southbridge)
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K7N2G-ILSR MS-6570 fsb cpu can't change specs

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K7N2G-ILSR overclocking problems

I am experiencing some strange problems. First my system:
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Athlon XP 1700+ Thoroughbred A, factory unlocked
2x512MB Corsair XMS PC2700CL2 memory
Debian Linux, 2.4.21-pre4-ac6 kernel
350W Enermax PSU
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1.65V CPU Voltage
1.2 BIOS
This system works rock stable, no crashes, no problems when it is running. But if I turn the power off, it no longer posts, if I remember correctly, the bottom two leds are on. It does not beep, no video nothing.
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1. Set the safe mode jumber
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4. power off, reset the safe mode jumper
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6. Reset: the machine comes up, enter the BIOS, set FSB back to 173MHz
7. Reboot, enjoy!
It always works, but it is a hassle. Not too bad, since the machine is on 24/7 so I only have to do this is there is a power outage of when I change some hardware, but it is very inconvinient.
The other strange thing is that I cannot set the DDR voltage to 2.7V. I can select it in the BIOS, save it, but after reboot it is back to 2.6V

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Originally posted by wonkanoby
drives pull 2x or 3x current to spin up as do once spinning,thats what makes me think psu if a reset works but cold boot fails,disable all bar c and try a cold boot
I have tried that, removed my HD and my TV Tuner card, but it did not help. But I have discovered something new: if I turn off the machine only using the ATX power switch and do not turn off the PSU switch, the board comes back on fine. I also have a simplified procedure to revive the board after a power off:
1. Set the safe mode jumper
2. Power on, wait for high/low beeps
3. Reset and wait for POST
4. Turn off using the ATX Power switch
5. Reset the safe mode jumper while the main PSU power is still on
6. Turn on and boot
Note that I did not have to tweak the BIOS as before.
Also did anyone else had trouble setting the DDR voltage to 2.7V? I can set it in the BIOS, but it is back to 2.6V after reboot.

Board killed after changing FSB? K7N2G-ILSR

I have a K7N2G-LISR. After I changed the FSB which was at 100MHz by default, the D-Bracket showed that the CPU was damaged. I cleared the CMOS and than it showed damaged memory. I tryed the RAM and the CPU with another PC and both were OK.
Any suggestions?
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MSI K7N2G-ILSR nForce2
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Try to set J10 back to safe mode (100mhz) after reset the BIOS then turn it on. If it boots set J10 to 133mhz.

K7N2G-ILSR: On-board video too unstable to use

Putting together a new computer for my son. Using K7N2G-ILSR and was really looking forward to the onboard video. Using Athlon XP 2100 (from my prior machine -- 100 percent solid CPU) and initially bought Corsair 2700 256MB with the new board. As an immediate downer, the board refused to work with the memory (nonstop beeping/D-LED stuff, etc.) at power up (tried all slots -- same result). Observation: this compares very unfavorably with my highly-favorable experience with Soyo boards, by the way. Swapped out that memory with Kingston 2700 256MB from my daughter's machine, which is running Soyo Dragon Lite.
Ok, so after some immediate (and unnecessary) memory hassle, got system to boot. CPU is running fine and cool at 50 deg C.
Next (BIG, BIG) problem: Onboard Video is WAY, WAY too unstable in Windows 2000 to be usable. At the outset, the video is showing random horizontal streaks (of trash) across the screen. The only time I've seen that before in my 15 years of PC use is in a Diamond video card a long time ago that was also defective. However, I can live with streaks. The problem is that the machine crashes every time, 100 percent of the time, within 15-90 seconds of booting into Windows 2000 (SP3). (Of course, used latest video driver from a web site, different settings, different refresh rates, and all the other usual stuff, etc., etc., etc.) By the way, I had the patience to try this with and without SP3, and tried a zillon different bios settings. Nothing worked -- same immediate crash problem. Also booted into safe mode and same deal -- but at least that confirms that the problem is probably underlying hardware-related problem, not software/driver problem. (If it can't run under generic Windows VGA driver, then it probably can't run under anything else.)
Only solution is to swap in an existing AGP card. That solves the problem 100 percent but I am not exactly happy camper since I paid for the on-board video (and for budget reasons the card that I am swapping in is not exactly cutting-edge.)
If anyone has a silver bullet fix for this, I would love to hear it. Otherwise, I will assume that the onboard AGP is defective and/or poorly designed, whereupon I would have been better off not spending the extra money for it. My best guess is that the memory and/or other video circuitry is defective.
Otherwise, happy with the underlying performance of the motherboard itself but the video fiasco is a BIG letdown. :O
Thanks.

SILVER BULLET FOUND!!! (and it was free) BIG, BIG, BIG cigar to Bikeman for his above post, which focused my attention on the BIOS. Had considered it at the outset, but figured there was no way I was going to need to flash a brand spanking new board. But when you read the BIOS update notes, one of its fixes is with Kingston memory which is currently in the board. Recall from above, however, that Kingston was a fallback as board complained bitterly about the Corsair memory that I bought with the board. (My daugher's Dragon Lite is quite happy with either memory.)
So here's the rundown. Actually couldn't see what bios ver. I had at POST as text went by way too fast. So install live update software which confirmed that I had older v. 1.2 bios. (Interestingly, the live update itself was old enough that it itself had to self-update before I could use). Flashed BIOS to 1.3 using the Windows version of update, which I will report worked real smooth.
Rebooted and proceeded to install fresh nVidia driver from nVidia website. However, I can tell you that the BIOS was definitely the problem because before I wouldn't have been able to easily get to the point of installing video driver without 5-10 crash/reboot cycles -- so the new-found stability made it very clear that the BIOS update was the "silver bullet" I was looking for.
Postscript impressions: (1) MSI boards are VERY finiky about memory (which is a problem that I have never had with Soyo boards), and (2) this is the 2nd MSI board I have bought and the 2nd one that has had severe bios issues. The first board was a low-end A socket board with AMI bios that arrived faulty/trashed -- half way thru POST, bios would start spitting out garbage ASCII characters.
Again thanks again to Bikeman for saving me from spending any more money (on psu or other memory) and for letting my son's system now run 8X AGP.

K7N2G-L won't accept Vdimm changes

When I put this box together I used an Athlon 2000, but anticipated getting a Barton so I purchased PC2700 ram. The box has run fine for the last year on the 133 fsb of the 2000, but when I replaced it with the 2500 Barton, it became unstable (lockups and crashes to the Desktop). On a 133 fsb the ram runs 10 passes of Memtest with 6-2-2-2 timings and no errors, on a 166 fsb it gets errors almost immediately (Test 2) no matter how relaxed the timings. The 5/4 ratio lets me run the Barton at it's stock speed while running the ram at 133 and this works just fine, but I'm not getting all out of the ram that I should. I've tried changing the Vdimm to 2.7 but when I save and exit the setting reverts back to 2.6. I've tried various suggestions like shutting off the power after saving / before the boot, but nothing works. Any ideas on making the Vdimm setting stick? PS... I never saw any updated BIOS changes that I felt I needed which is why I still use the 3.3

I cleared the CMOS and set the BIOS to Auto when I installed the new cpu. The ram won't run stable at 166 even using it's own SPD settings (7-3-3-2.5). I don't get why the Vdimm change won't apply. I've had no problems with any ot the other BIOS settings and I had hoped the ram would run ok on 2.7v if I could get the change to stick.

K7N2G-ILSR-HELP!!!!!!! Please, please, try to reply to it by the end o

:O i recently bought a computer with a MSI K7N2G-ILSR after reading all the reveiws on it. i am 15 years old, and my dad will k*** me ( ;( ), because i have already fried some chips with messing around. Now i have another problem. Everytime i turn on the computer, nothing appears on the screen, but the monitor is working as i've tested it on another pc. the D-LED'S hang on:
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i have cleared the CMOS, and jumpered it so it would run at 100 mhz but it would still not boot up.
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p.s also i have noticed some pinging nosies

Im using a K7N2G-ILSR. this is the one with the onboard graphics so adding another graphics card is out of the question. The cd-rom and dvd drive lights flash, the hd light is continuously on. Nope i havnt flashed the bios recently, i havent even changed anything in the bios. the machine is 'booting' upto the 'initializing floppy drive controller'. after that it crashes. nothing is shown on the screen before and after that, not even the companys logo.
b4 this started to happen, i was copying some files from the dvd drive and windows crashed. So i restarted it. An then the problems. All i have got plugged into the motherboard is:
2 sticks of 128mg(unbranded i think) pc2700 ddr sdram (dual ddr)
80gb seagate hard drive @ 5400 rpm i think
A Mentor Modem card using the Intel chip.
DVD-DRIVE
CD-RW drive
i think the psu is 350 watts but im not sure
i noticed the pinging noises when i was writing the first message (After pc f***** up!), and it wasnt from the pc's speaker and it has stopped, i think i was imagining them.
It cant be the psu because it has worked fine until now, and ive been copying cd's from one drive to the other, which would take up alot of power and it was fine.
thnx 4 ur help

Need help with MSI K7N2G-ILSR

This is probably a really easy problem to fix, but my internet time is limited since my old system is in pieces, and I have to do this from work.
My new MSI K7N2G-ILSR, running with a Barton XP2800 and 2 DIMMs of Geil 512MB DDR PC3200 , doesn't seem to be happy with things. When I tried to turn things on, I got no video output, and there was a regular series of beeps.
I believed this is just a memory issue, and I intended to look into it when I get home...however, it seems things are a little more complicated than I may have thought.
After failing to get any results with the pc3200 512 dimms, I switched to my old 2700 256 meg DIMMS, which I knew worked fine. To my surprise, the system then worked...almost. It got to a certain point, and then gave the message "no drive is connected to fastrack", or something to that effect, and then froze.
The system also worked with combinations of my old 256meg and one of the new 512s, but not with both 512s at once. The 256s, in combination, powered up every time; however, they didn't allow me to install anything. The combination of 2 256s and 1 512 worked most of the time, but would occasionally fail to detect the the RAM - resulting in the same steady beeping as earlier.
For the sake of curiousity, I removed the IDE cable from the DVD drive. To my surprise, Windows (the drive was not formatted) tried to load...which would not happen when the DVD was connected. I then reconected the DVD, and removed the IDE connection from the hard drive. XP tried to install, and then crashed...in fact, the whole system powered down. And now will not restart again. It's dead, and I can't seem to get a single response from it.
This made me wonder if the problem lies with my PSU. Does this sound like something which would happen if the PSU was playing up? I have a 450 watt unit, which I thought would be ok. But the only thing I can think is that the PSU doesn't have enough power to deal with the demands of my new system. I imagine the 3200 DIMMs require a lot more power than the 2700, which might explain why the system can't power up using two of them - the PSU can't handle it.
Any ideas at all? I'm getting more than a little frustrated now. Any advice gratefully received...

Remove all devices from your setup except the CD-ROM (or DVD device) and the hard drive, and connect each to the end connector on different IDE cable, making sure each device is set to "cable select" (preferred) or "master" (2nd choice). Plug the CD-ROM (or DVD device) into IDE2; Plug the hard drive cable into IDE1. For now, don't plug anything into IDE3.
Your power supply is probably adequate, but beware. While many PS'es are "high wattage," many don't deliver enough power to the critical 3.3V bus. Check to make sure that your PS is rated for AT LEAST 28 Amps for the 3.3VDC supply. If not, get a new ANTEC TRUE PS that is. Don't skimp on power; it's like you skimping on food, then running a marathon.
Only install (1) 256MB module in one of the two slots that are together. I recommend the slot closest to the CPU.
If you are running a video card, remove it and use the IGP for now.
Now, power up, and when you get the logo screen, go into your BIOS by pressing the delete key. If your screen is blank and just sits there, then power off, unplug the computer, and set the "clear CMOS jumper." Wait 30 seconds, replace jumper, plug in power cord, and restart computer.
When you get to BIOS, make certain that it sees both drives in the first BIOS screen. Set your time and day (if you like) and then go to the second screen and set your CD-ROM/DVD as the first boot device, set the HD0 as the second (it should already be that way), hit and save and exit, but don't set anything else. Your computer should now boot from the CD-ROM and try to install Windows (I assume XP.) When it asks for you to press F6 to load RAID drivers, don't.
Choose to format your drive using NTFS, don't choose the quick format.
Report back!

Sometimes cannot start PC: problem with Hitachi SATA Hard drive and K7N2G-ILSR

I have major problem with my 160Gb SATA Hitachi hard drive and my MSI K7N2G-ILSR motherboard. Sometimes the PC can be started, sometimes it cannot.
After I installed a clean build of Windows XP Pro SP1 onto my new hard drive (as the only hard drive in my PC) and install all the necessary drivers, the system runs smoothly. However, after about 2 to 3 weeks, sometimes when I start the PC, it cannot detect the hard drive and hence it claimes that it cannot find any VMI Pool Data (i.e. no OS detected). What makes it really horrible is that, it is like the lottery everytime when I start the PC. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The highest record was 8 consecutive failures (by resetting or by turning the power off and on again) before I can start the machine properly. Also, the system sometimes just crashes in the middle of operating.
I have already sent the hard drive back to Hitachi. Got the same model of hard drive back as replacement, but the replacement has the same problem, except with the replacement drive the PC can be started eventually after many tries, while with the previous drive it is possible that the PC cannot be started until after a few days later.
Also, it seems that my drive can detect either SATA hard drive or PATA hard drive, but not both. (If I leave my old PATA drive connect in the primary IDE channel, Windows cannot detect the new SATA drive.)
Is my motherboard faulty? Can it only use PATA drive?
My PC's spec is as follows:
AMD Athlon XP 2500+
512Mb PC3200 SDRAM (set to run at 166MHz)
Hitachi 160Gb SATA Hard drive on 1st SATA channel (Model #HDS722516VLSA80)
Sony DVD+-RW drive and Panasonic DVD-ROM drive on secondary IDE channel
Use onboard video (GeForce MX)
US Robotech V92 internal PCI modem
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Player soundcard
Onboard audio disabled
300W PSU
OS is Windows XP Pro SP1 (with all latest security patches up to date)

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Originally posted by boucher91
Along the same lines the sata drives use more power than the pata drives...
sata usually faster spin rate, pata is slower spin rate...
that is not entirly correct.
many harddrives just come with different ways to connect them.
the only sata drives i now that spins faster is western digital raptors 10k rpm.
all other is running at 7200rpm.
older drives run at 5400rpm
Yes to get the full benefit of RAID, the Raptors are the way to go.Anything else, no significant difference.

K7N2G-ILSR - my experience

Well, after reading through this board's multitude of problems, I think I encountered them all when I went to install my mobo.
Here's my setup & experience:
AMD XP 2600+
MSI K7N2G-ILSR
2x 512MB DDR 400MHZ Infineon 64x64 modules
2x Maxtor 60Y080 80GB SATA 7200RPM drives
Creative SB Audigy Platinum EX
Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card
Logitech USB iTouch Keyboard
Logitech USB Dual Optical 4 Button Mouse
LG DVD ROM
LG DVD-RW/+RW/RAM Drive
420 watt X-PIDER Aspireusa Black case w/purdy lights & clear side
and a whooole lota patience.
First of all, let me explain, I used to do tech support, building computers, troubleshooting bad installs, fixing problems etc, my entire job was finding problems with systems and fixing them for a retail & corporate reseller.
Here's what I did, feel free to drop in suggestions of what I should/shouldn't have done, or what I can still try.
1) I plugged everything in and turned it on. (yeah yeah, I realized the error in my ways real quick)
Result: Beep Beep Beep Beep Beep Beep... (all long beeps, which kept going on for ages, I lost count at 20+ and realized it wasnt an error code)
2) I unplugged everything one part at a time and restarting until I had 3 things plugged into the mobo, the Mobo, the CPU, and the 2 sticks of RAM, so it was one of those 3 things that were causing the problems.
Result was still the same beeping fyi.
3) I tried every option for the memory, alternated each stick in DIMM slot 1,2 and 3. Tried combinations of each module in different slots, until I had exhausted them all.
Result: same beeping.
4) Tried a 256MB Samsung module in slot 1
Result: POST!! YAY!
5) Went into BIOS to see what the settings were, made sure everything was ok and kept going with the install and the Samsung module - I restarted & went to the SATA RAID utility next. - CTRL-F took me to that screen.
Result: Froze on RAID Controller screen.
6) Or so I thought, after an hour or so, trying different things, replaced the USB Logitech Keyboard with a MS Natural PS2 keyboard was the next option.
Result: POST & RAID Setup works now!
7) Followed manual directions at this point (yeah, I wasn't taking any chances after all this crap) Went to verify the drives.
Result: Frozen drive verifaction at 72%
8) Retried verification.
Result: Worked.
9) Formatted Drive.
Result: Worked.
10) Installed OS after loading Raid Drivers.
Result: BSOD half way through Win XP setup. Rebooted to find the Raid Array is offline.
11) Deleted the Raid Array, started from Scratch.
Result: got allll the way to having the OS installed & Ready to go (I almost cried at this point, and hugged my roomie)
12) Installed Service Pack 1.
Result: Worked.
13) Installed Motherboard Drivers (from CD - yeah yeah, I should have downloaded the latest)
Result: BSOD. AGAIN. Restarted to find the Array Offline yet again.
14) Restarted after deleting the Array and setting it up again, thinking I'd have to install the OS all over, and it booted straight into the OS with no issues. ???
15) Left it running for 1/2 hour to see if it was an intermittent problem.
Result: While I was changing a T-Shirt (due to excessive sweat buildup from the stress) it spontaneously BSOD'd and reset - Array was offline again etc.
16) Reset Array & left for the weekend.
Result - Ran aaallll weekend no problem.
17) RMA'd my memory, getting replacements today, and so far the system still works...
so... ? What should I do? I'm scared it'll spontaneously BSOD again and leave me PCless.
Comments/Sympathies/Suggestions welcome. I need consoling *sniff*

18) Replaced the memory - memory worked.
19) Wiped the drive clean - resinstalled the OS.
20) Upgraded the BIOS on the Motherboard & RAID Controller
21) Updated the Drivers for the Motherboard, Video Card and Sound Card - unplugged all other peripherals.
22) BSOD On installing the Motherboard drivers.
23) BSOD On running any 3d/Sound programs
24) Live updated kept BSODing every time I tried to load it.
25) Wiped the drive clean again, reseated all cards, tried one memory stick.
26) Reinstalled the OS - Froze half-way through intall - restarted, reformatted, reinstalled.
27) Immediately after install worked, I updated the Drivers for the motherboard - BSOD again.
28) Installed all other required drivers (LiveUpdate for motherboard - Video, Sound) I thought maybe it was a problem with an outdated peripheral driver.
29) played with all BIOS settings again with the RAM Latency, clock speeds etc. BSOD every 4-6 minutes no matter what I tried.
30) Tried pulling out the sound card and using the onboard, re-enabling it in the bios. Same problem - BSOD every few minutes.
31) Tried switching up the 9800Pro with an older Nvidia GeForce 3 - Same problem - BSOD every few minutes, the only things I have not replaced or unplugged are the Motherboard & CPU.
32) Lost patience with said motherboard - pulled it out of the case & packaged it up to send back.
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