K7N2G-L Award Bios 4.0 Stability Problems

I recently updated the BIOS on my MB using Live Update. It updated the Bios to version 4.0. Since about that time, I have had severe stability issues (random program and windows xp crashes, even blue screens). I'm not sure if its a coincidence so I'm looking for any information anyone has regarding this BIOS version. BTW, if you go to MSI's download site, they don't even offer v4.0; just v3.9. Why does Live Update make it available? Also, please note that I have run a multitude of diagnostic tests and have found nothing. My temps are all normal (30-40 Celsius range). I have even wiped the hard drive and reinstalled Windows Xp, only to have the problems remain. Any help or input would be greatly appreciated.

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Originally posted by Wonkanoby
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=398
your board does not use a bios 4 if it is a K7N2G-L
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=393&kind=1
bios 4.0 is for a board has no onbord vga
Ah, Wonky, this is a paste from the link you supplied:
BIOS Type    Award® BIOS     File Sizes    256KB
Version    4.0     Update date    2004-4-1
Update Description    Update VGA BIOS to Version 4.1F.20.00.00
Special note    1. This BIOS is for K7N2 (MS-6570) and K7N2G-L only.
2. This BIOS cannot be used on K7N2G-ILSR.,

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You can avoid this crash by resizing and cropping the image(s) outside of Muse before bringing them into Muse.
If you're interested in working with the new release in Beta, all subscribers who can accept the terms of the Non-disclosure Agreement are invited to join the Adobe Muse Private Beta Program at http://museprerelease.com
The crash when changing Site Properties may, or may not, be related to the large image(s). Can you provide a screenshot of any errors that appear? Thanks.

K9n neo stability problems, computer freezes hd light stays on! help!

Newly built system having stability problems. The computer crashes when loading and exiting programs, seams to me like it is ram related. When the system crashes the hard drive light remains lit. I have an elixer 667mhz ram module. Heres the system spec:
msi K9n neo
athlon 3500 am2
elixer 667mhz ram
gforce 7300le
sata mextor 80gb
350w power supply
I am unsure of the ram timing setting and voltage, i just set them to auto please can someone tell me what could be wrong is elixer compatible with this mobo?
thanks

There is appearently a compability problem with the AM2 K9N boards and
nvidia 7300 turbocache gfx cards (turbocache use system memory as added VGA mem)
See:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=99557

K8N Neo4 Plat SLI - From Phoenix to Award Bios?

Prolly a stupid question, but BIOS upgrades always make me a little apprehensive:
All my diagnostic programs (Nero Info,3D Mark,etc.)show my existing 3.0 BIOS as Phoenix, but the MSI site calls the new 3.1 BIOS an Award BIOS.
Is this correct? Does it matter?

hi Private Idaho,
Welcome to the forum.
Phoenix took over award or visa versa anyway all the Nvidia Chipset 64s use the award bios.
If flashing from a floppy see Flashing the BIOS for Users using NON FAT file system
if you haven't got a boot disk get an image here. BootDisk.com suggest the ME 1 you need 1 with cd support as these use the virtual drive used by the MSI procedure above.
Enter bios & load defaults before flashing.
luck

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