K7T Turbo(ms6330)ver3

i see in msi webside that this mainboard support xp1800.in cpu support they say the same.but in the bios support (bios ver3)they say that onely k7t turbo 2 support xp1800 and above.is there somthing wrong here?http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=100&MODEL=MS-6330%20Ver3.0 http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=100%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/cpu_support/cpu/spt_cpu_detail.php?UID=100&NAME=MS-6330%20Ver3.0%20%20%20%20%20&NAME=MS-6330%20Ver3.0

Hi ernyh,
If you look around on the forum, you will find a considerable number of "success stories" and I believe every single one )
However, this does not make the limitation to the 1800+ a myth. The limitation has been set by MSI and is therefore a reality - there are the technical reasons in relation to the powerlines on the board (just look around in this forum), but there are also "economical reasons" like the fact that the gain in performance you (or xroyal, for that matter) will have will be a mere 10-20% in theory - meaning that part of it will be visable in benchmarks. In practice it will be hardly noticeable in comparison to running at stock speed for most games and applications.
Also, the people who will ask the question are almost invariably newbies and giving them advice that will cost them their warranty if something does go wrong, is not good advice - at least in my book )
Furthermore, there is no question about it that running the system out of specs will have a negative effect on life span - even if there is adequate cooling of the cpu - because, for instance, there will also be stress on other components.
So, as long as the limitation is there "officially" I am of the opinion that the answer to the question must continue to be "1800+". Nevertheless, I hope that you will not run out of luck )
Hans

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I have a MSI K7T Turbo Version 3.0 Limited Edition motherboard,without RAID.
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Hi,
And welcome to the forum
You have succeeded in finding the fount of all MSI knowledge - This forum (well some of it anyway)
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SiS6326 AGP card: NA (no IRQ even if I enable "Assign IRQ to VGA" in BIOS, but that's not my problem)
Just thought that I would let you know that I have the same troubles with no IRQ being assigned by the BIOS and due to this I am having troubles getting a DUAL monitor set up running!
--David

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Hi
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Are you 100% sure you recieved a Palomino core?
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Ok fellas, here's my question.
I'll try to include as much info as possible here.
I have the K7T Turbo-R Limited Edition version 3.0A (at least that's what the users manual says). It's a Red Motherboard and has 2 IDE Controllers. I simply want to know what is the fastest processor I am able to run in this board? Also, I was looking at the BIOS updates and noticed that some have footnotes regarding the Turbo2. So what is the latest BIOS Update that I would use for this particular board? Please pardon my ignorance here. My hopes here are that these are softball questions for you guys.

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Would this be the processor you're talking about? http://store.yahoo.com/directron/xp153.html
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