K7T Turbo2 low RAM voltage problem?

Hello
I just purchased a K7T Turbo2 6330v5 mainboard.
I have a standard singlesided 256Mb/PC133 RAM module.
I installed FuzzyLogic 4 and it shows a RAM voltage of 2.5V,while I thought all PC133 chips needed 3.3V.........
I have a fresh Win98SE install and the computer keeps freezing up,usually happens either when it enters Windows or after about 15 minutes and I have a couple of programs running.
The BIOS shows 3.46V on the 3.3V supply.
All voltages are within range in the BIOS.
any help appreciated
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Problem seems to be solved,and it wasn't the RAM voltage.
The onboard audio and/or drivers for that was causing the problem.
8o

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[URGENT] MSI K7T Turbo2 patched 3.6 Problem

SORRY TO POST IT AGAIN ON THIS FORUM.. ITS QUITE URGENT
Hi! I've been using MSI K7T Turbo2 with my Athlon 1700 XP.
So far no problem with the configuration.. And I did update the BIOS to v3.6
However, when I sold the mobo to someone, who's using a Duron 700 processor, he told me that he couldn't get the system to boot. Not even see the startup BIOS screen.
After that, he tried to clear the CMOS data by jumper and tried restarted, this time everything is fine. But later he found that, with this method, he CAN ONLY BOOT ONCE. Meaning if he saved anything in BIOS, it wont be saved actually. And also after he cleared the CMOS data and reinstalled Windows, when Windows restart the PC, the same old problem occurred (cannot start PC)
As Duron is running at FSB 100MHz, he did set the jumper J17 closed (100MHz). But same problem happens. Then we suspect that it has something to do with the BIOS patch that I applied (v3.6). Could it be, after applying the bios patch (when I was using Athlon 1700 XP), the bios remembers that the processor is Athlon 1700 XP and does something (eg, removed the 100MHz feature?) that caused the motherboard now DOESN'T boot with Duron 700?
Any suggestion?
If so, where can we find the original bios for flashing back to previous version?
TQ!

what kind of system specs does the pc now have that he has it? Is the heatsink mounted properly and is the fan plugged in? I doubt the PSU should have any problem with that cpu. How about the ram? try swapping it out and replacing it.
I would try removing everything that isn't essential to boot into Windows. Have only the cpu, ONE stick of ram, hard drive, cdrom drive, and graphics card. Remove modems, NICs, Raid cards, extra ram sticks, extra IDE devices, disable the onboard sound (remember that there are two values to do this with in the BIOS and both must be disabled). Try booting then. Then check if you can boot normally. If so, one of the pieces of hardware you removed is the problem. If not, something is wrong physically or in the configuration of the remaining hardware. Give that a go. If things go okay, plug in one piece of hardware at a time and retry. You'll hit a snag sooner or later.
BTW, I don't think the board still thinks an athlon xp 1700+ is still in it. In the Frequency and voltage controls, you might try setting the FSB, multiplier, and Vcore manually.

K7T Turbo2 (MS-6330) Booting problems

Last night, I installed an Athlon XP 1700+ on my K7T Turbo2 mobo. I can not boot into Windows now. Windows XP will hang on loading up mup.sys, and 98 resets at an indeterminate time. I cannot install Windows 98 or XP either, as both hang on the setup (Before I can even access recovery mode for XP). I've swapped out all my PCI devices, disabled nearly everything in the BIOS, etc... nothing good. Heres what I've got.
Athlon XP 1700+
K7T Turbo2 Mobo
ATI Radeon 9000 128mb
ATI Radeon 7200 32mb (Secondary Display)
Creative Labs Soundblaster (Live!)
1280 Megs of PC133 RAM (PNY)
Linksys 10/100 PCI Ethernet Card
Maxtor 60GB HD 7200
Maxtor 12GB HD 7200
Seagate 10GB HD 5400
Buslink 52x24x52 CDRW
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Do I need to set my FSB to 133 so I can use the 1700? I have updated my BIOS to the latest version. How would I increase the FSB?

Welcome
Shutdown and remove jumper J17 (see manual - jumper near ram slots). If no boot, clear CMOS and try again. Be sure to use Fail Safe Defaults for install.
You've got a really heavy load, and hope your PSU is up to it. Do you have at least 200-220 combined watts on +3 and +5 circuits of PSU (see PSU label or maker's site).

K7T - Turbo2 and Athlon 2000+ problem

Sorry for my english...
K7T Turbo2 - BIOS 3.6. Problem with Athlon 2000+. I can´t set the multilplier to 12.5, because there is only 12 - 13 step. When i set it to "Default" POST show CPU correctly as Athlon 2000+, but pc can´t be rebooted by ctrl+alt+del. Must be switched off and then on...
Second thing is... it´s impossible to install win98 or xp - blue death.
With Duron 1.3 it´s working fine ...

Hi,
I don't think ECC memory is supported by the Turbo2, it states "NO support ECC Function" on the MSI info page, look here
So, I'm not sure that ECC bios function will help you, or what it is really there for.
But, I guess this opinion will not explain why you said it will work with an duron 1.3
Another thing is that the XP2000 uses more power than the duron 1.3, so your PSU sounds a bit weak for the XP2000 cpu;
PSU 300W
5V - 24A
12V - 10A
3.3V - 14A

Ram voltage problem

okay, I finally got up enough gumption to do the wire trick to unlock my 2400+. That being done, I pushed the fsb up to 180 (With kingston 2700 valueram) with moderate stability.
Jedi knight 2 is a really oc sensitive game, so I cant play it at 180. My question is, why the heck can I not adjust the ram voltage. Every time I try to set it to 2.7, it defaults back to 2.6. No matter what I do.
Frustrating
Wise

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Originally posted by Wiseblud
okay, I finally got up enough gumption to do the wire trick to unlock my 2400+. That being done, I pushed the fsb up to 180 (With kingston 2700 valueram) with moderate stability.
Jedi knight 2 is a really oc sensitive game, so I cant play it at 180. My question is, why the heck can I not adjust the ram voltage. Every time I try to set it to 2.7, it defaults back to 2.6. No matter what I do.
Frustrating
Wise
Welcome to your bios. Hopefully MSI will change this - it's a drag. But for now, there's nothing you can do - I think.

WEIRD RAM Voltage Problem. Really happy for some help =)

Hi I have a K8N Neo2 Platinum motherboard with BIOS version 1.4.
I have a wonderfull set of OCZ PC-3200 Platinum rev.2 RAM that preferably should have atleast 2.75 V. They do work with less, but stability can suffer in some cases.
My problem is that if I choose 2.75, 2.8 or 2.85 V in BIOS I still end up with 2.7 in Windows. Only by increasing the voltage in windows with, for example, Corecenter can I reach a voltage over 2.7. Why do I have this problem? Is there any simple way to fix it?
I mean, I think that if the MB was broken in any way (hardware wise) so shouldn't it be possible to change the voltage through windows (the voltages are correct BTW and the MB show no other signs of error except this).
Is this a know bug in any way for the MB or the 1.4 BIOS version? And as said before, do anyone know how to fix it?
Lots of thanks to anyone that can help (this problem is really making me confused).
Edit: one more question while Im at it. As many others I have freezing problems with my 6800 ultra. Is there any trick/BIOS that solves this (I know disable AGP fastwrites... helps and disable NV/Ati speed up... but except that).

The bug is most likely corecenter. It seems to report things wrong for most people. Try using speedfan or similar program to verify voltage before you get too concerned. Just dont use mbm 5, people have reported problems there as well. You can get speedfan at www.guru3d.com.

K7T Turbo2 and IDE2 controller problems

I purchased the subject Mainboard from a local retailer. I am running a Athalon 900 with a Copper CPU fan, Case Fan and PS Fan. The Hard drive is a IBM Deskstar 41gig Ultra DMA 100 drive.
Extras include a CD Drive and floppy.
Okay installation was a snap and when I fired up the system it would not locate the CD drive which was plugged into IDE2 socket. The HD was there.
So I logically started a bit of troubleshooting of which was
Bios made sure IDE 2 was AUTO
Made Sure jumpers on CD were Master
Replaced Ribbon Cable.
No change
So a bit more advance Troubleshooting resulted in
Switching HD to IDE2 (NOT THERE)
Switching CD Drive to IDE1 (THERE) (GOOD DRIVE)
Switching IDE Ribbon Cables from IDE1 to IDE2 (Not there)
Okay so I called the Owner of the store, he said he would replace the mainboard.
Three Mainboards later I still have the same setup
IBM Drive is Master on IDE1 and CD Drive is Slave on IDE1 (NOTHING IS PLUGGED INTO IDE2 on the mainboard).
Since we were at his shop we tried three devices two on IDE1 and one on IDE2 the IDE1 devices worked but IDE2 was the same...
We scratched our heads and cannot believe he would get three bad boards especially since two of them came from a different shipment.
Any ideas?

Okay it seems like I may not have explained the entire problem.
The Problem is in the POST it does not recognize the drives and actually it has a problem even with multiple drives on ide0 channel.
Hope this helps bring more light into the problem. I can never get the device to recognize therefore it will not show up in the OS. (Which btw is RH7.3 running kernel 2.4.18-10)
Ras

K7T turbo2 Ms6330 pc alert problems

when i install pc alert 3 my system keeps crashing or restarting without provication I tried installing pc alert 4 but all that did was come up with a message saying no Hardware Monitoring so i am confused what is happening.

Hello!
Why not uninstall it? It is well known to wind up in conflicts with other monitoring and controlling software, like FuzzyLogic.
Some Windows versions doesn't like programs installed into a folder named 'Program Files', but that can't be your problem.
To be complete you should also tell us some more about your system, including max amperes given by the PSU. Personally I likt to know the BIOS readings for processor and system temps.

Lower RAM defect after upgrading to 10.4.4

I have an early model Aluminum Powerbook G4 (1Ghz) and now have the lower
ram slot problem. I do feel the problem potentially exists in all the Aluminum 15" models. It's quite amazing how many things have happens since getting this powerbook. First battery problems (recall), then screen problems (extended warranty offered-took awhile thought) and now this. Does anyone
know if the replacement logic boards being offered are any less prone to
give out? It would be a drag to pay and have it breakdown again (of course after
any warranty period).

I'm beginning to think this is a software problem related to Tiger. It seem to me, nearly everyone with this issue experienced this "lower slot" problem when upgrading to 10.4x.
I am still on Panther 10.3.9, and I recently upgraded my lower slot memory, taking out the stock 256MB module, and putting in a 512MB one. It's early days, but it's working fine, and system profiler is recognizing the new 512MB RAM in the lower slot.
You actually had the lower slot stop working, AFTER you upgraded to 10.4.4.? Sounds like I could be onto something! Are you listening Apple!!
The problem seems to be worse in the newer machines (1.67 and the newer hi res models), but now it seems, that anyone with an Aluminium 15" Powerbook can get the problem.
I heard of one guy having 4 different logic boards in his Powerbook, so it doesn't seem to me to be the solution to the problem! Until Apple actually find the proper cause, and fix it, I certainly won't be upgrading to 10.4, just to be on the safe side.
15", G4, 1.25Ghz Alum Powerbook Mac OS X (10.3.9) 768MB RAM

K7T Turbo2 IDE woes

After a mobo switch with a Pro 2A I'm getting the same errors. My start up takes about 10 minutes running Win2000 server and the event log shows the following:
Source: DISK
The driver disable the write cache on device \Device\Harddisk0\DR0
(repeated FOUR TIMES) Source: ATAPI
The Device \Device\IDE\IDEPort0 did not respond within the timeout period.
THEN:
Source: ATAPI
The driver detected a controller error on \Device\IDE\IDEPort0
This is a Maxtor 40g hard drive but was previously using a Western Digital that returned the same errors.
K7t Turbo2
512meg RAM
Maxtor 40g Master
52x CD-ROM Slave
950mhz Athlon TBird
Linksys Network Card

NO, I didn't reformat the hard drive and my mistake, this is a 20g Maxtor. The power supply is a Codegen 300w

K7T Turbo2 Post problem

Hey all, first time here. I am trying to fix my son's computer for Christmas. His old mobo went dead and I picked up a K7T Turbo2 at the local shop. Details below:
K7T Turbo2 mobo - Award BIOS v6.00PG (W6330VMS v3.7)
AMD Athlon 1.4
2 x PC100 128MB ram
AGP GeForce4 MX (tried Rage 128
WD 40GB hdd
Standard 52x CD
Macron PSU 300W
When booting the first few times, it acts like it wants to boot, gets through post and tries to access the hdd - but never gets to any MS booting screen (XP loaded on hdd) - screen just goes black. I turn it off and back on and it gets to the point where it does the HDD check and freezes. The diagnostic LED stops on #1 red and the rest green (manual says boot attempt, but it hasn't even done a hdd check yet). I take it down and back up again several times. Sometimes the LEDs stop on #2 red and the rest green (manual says floopy init).
I took the board back to the shop and got another with the same results. I have tried different AMD 1.4 (from a known working PC), different PC100 128MB sticks and PC133 256MB sticks. I've tried booting with only minimal parts attached (no hdd or cd) with the same results. The only thing I can think of is the PSU is not strong enough. I've tried plugging in the little 12V piece and not using it with the same results. HELP!!!! Tomorrow is Christmas and my son is going to be very disappointed. TIA!
AirGator

Just wanted to say thanks for all the help. I foud the problem though. It was a faulty CPU. I know that I had swapped it out with my working AMD 1.4, but for some reason, this one would die once any load was put on it. I took my wife's 1.4 out and the mobo booted.
I just went out to ZipZoomFly (from Pricewatch) and bought two new AMD Athlon XP 1800+'s for $48 each. Hopefully they'll come in quickly and I can get my son's PC back to him before the end of his Christmas break. Thanks again all!
AirGator

K7T Turbo2 PCI Problem

Motherboard: MSI K7T Turbo2 MS-6330 Ver5.0
Bios: 3.6
Chipset Driver: 4.43
Processor: AMD 1800+ XP
RAM: 256MB SDRAM PC133
HDD: WD800JB 80GB
CDROM: Generic 50x
CDRW: Lite-On 40x12x48 LTR40125S
With Windows XP Home or Windows XP Pro, I cannot install any PCI devices. I have tried a modem, NIC and a Soundblaster live. It sees the device, and knows what it is, but fails to install. I have tried different PCI slots. I have tried just about every BIOS setting (and yes I disabled the integrated modem, either though there is no integrated modem) but can't figure it out.
With Windows 98SE, no problem installing PCI devices. I did use a different hard drive to test WIN98, but I don't think that would matter.
Does anyone have any ideas? I can't seem to get through to tech support (no surprise there).
Thanks,
DTM77

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Originally posted by maesus
I think this is just WinXP couldn't find the exact drivers for your PCI devices. Try to point to the driver location that you have downloaded and extracted, and manually install the driver.
Thank you for the advice, but that's not it. I did what you said.. pointed to either the CD or floppy. Even with the soundblaster, XP new it was a soundblaster and tried to install it's driver, but no luck.
I'm going to try different versions of the VIA chipset drivers today and see what happens.
DTM77

K7T TURBO2 DOES NOT SUPPORT HIGH DENSITY RAM

X(
It took three weeks of digging, but I finally found out why my MS6330 v5.0 continues to crash when I try to play games on it.
Despite what MSI says about this board supporting the AMD ATHLON XP 2100+, the K7T TURBO2 does not. In fact, AMD doesn't recommend any motherboard that uses 168 pin ram for use with processors XP 2100+ and above.
Needless to say, I'm very disappointed with MSI. I've built my entire system around this motherboard, I bought a gig-and-a-half of PC-133 ram for this computer!
If I hadn't done any homework, and just went out and blindly bought components and hoped it would work, well then I would deserve to have a junk system. However, that is not the case here! I read (before I bought anything) MSI's compatability charts, and I'm well within the parameters stated there.
I just thought that I'd let any potential buyers know this info, so they can save themselves some grief. This seemed to be a very mysterious situation in my previous posts, I have a hard time believing that this forum has never seen problems with this configuation before.

Here is a link to NCP's website:
http://www.hexon.com.sg/hexon_tech/products/desktop_sdram.asp
Also, you should know that I LOVE working with my computer's hardware and other technical components. I don't often find myself with this level of frustration when doing these kind of procedures. Using a methodical step-by-step approach and keeping documentation of these steps usually uncovers the inherent problems of building your own system in a matter of a few hours, perhaps even days... but not months.
As you have suggested, I have, of course started with a barebones system (1 ram, lots, of fans, default bios, 1 hdd-fdd-cdrom) and these problems do not go away, even with the most basic settings.
This is what I've determined by using my AMD Tbird 1.4 CPU on the same motherboard, with the FSB jumper back in: The motherboard is not defective. I can run everything that I'd like to with this different CPU in. Whether the problems I'm seeing with the XP 2100+ are caused by changing the FSB to 133 or not, I'm not certain. However, changing the cpu and the FSB are the only changes that need to be made to see these problems return.
By the way, I can overclock the hell out of my CPU and get my computer to boot too. It just doesn't solve the problems I'm having, so I don't bother -- yet
I've tried a different video card, and I get the same trouble.
I've tried my ram in another system (one at a time and all together) and run memtest86 on it for 25 hours. No trouble there.
My PSU serves up 220 Watts across the 3.3v and 5v outputs. This seems sufficient.
I have a total of 9 high output fans in this system, and my CPU runs at a balmy 56 C while running the distributed.net client. ( I ran it overnight, with no problems)
Obviously, this is a graphics related problem, and adjusting texture detail directly affects the amount of time that passes before the game hangs or crashes. Less is more, if you know what I mean
I've read that this is a known issue with older VIA chipsets. The article was a little dated though, about 18 months ago.
If there is anything that I'm missing, please let me know.
I'll write more details later, if you'd like to help me troubleshoot this problem.

K7T Turbo2 cold boot problem

To all:
I recently replaced my old MB and CPU (Asus a7v133/AMD 850 Mhz T-bird) with a K7T Turbo2/AMD XP 1800+ Thoroughbred. All of the other components are the same (see below), except the PSU. I replaced my old one hoping that it would solve my problem.
When I cold boot the system the fans turn on but the system does not post and the monitor remains off. If I hit the reset button on the case the system boots normally. Also about 20% of the time the system emits a constant beeping (sounds like an alarm clock) when I cold start, which goes away when I hit the reset button. I have also noticed that the system trys to boot when I flip the power switch on the PSU. I don't know if this is normal with MSI boards, but my Asus would not boot until I hit the power button on the case.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
System Specs:
K7T Turbo2 (BIOS ver. 3.6)
AMD XP 1800+ Thoroughbred
896 MB PC133 RAM (3 sticks; 512 (crucial), 256 (crucial), 128 (?))
CoolMaster CPU Fan Model#: CP5-6J31C-01
Inno3D GeForce2 MX400 (32MB)
Sony 1.44MB Floppy Drive
Maxtor 20GB HDD
Plextor CD/RW
SoundBlaster Live Value
T10/100 Ethernet Card
PS/2 Keyboard
PS/2 Mouse
PSU: Kingwin Extreme series ATX 450watts:
+3.3V @ 28A Max output
+5V @ 45A Max output
+3.3V and +5V Current = 225W
+12V @ 18A Max output
+12V Current = 216W
Max Combined Wattage = 430W
-12V @ 0.8A Max output
-5V @ 0.5A Max output
+5VSB @ 2.0A Max output

To all:
Thank you for all of your suggestions. When I got home today I tried to boot up the system with only the 512MB RAM stick (Crucial Part #:CT64M64S4D) inserted in DIMM slot 1. The computer responded as described in the first post of this thread. I then tried the 256MB stick (Crucial Part #:CT32M64S8D75) in DIMM slot #1 and the system booted normally. I then subsequently added the other sticks of RAM in the remaining slots (512MB in slot 2 and the 128MB in slot 3). I think the 128MB stick is hitachi but not 100% sure...it might be Diahatsu (my short term memory isn't too good). I guess the 512MB stick did not seat well in DIMM slot 1.
However, my system still wants to boot up independently of the button on the case. The system will power up once I flip the PSU switch to the on position. I don't know if this is normal for MSI boards, but my Asus system would not boot until I pressed the case button. I must admit I am still unclear of the JFP1 wiring. However, I have tried the power switch and reset switch wiring in all combos and this did not solve the issue. Is there a BIOS setting or jumper somewhere that I am missing? Any more info would be useful.
Thanks again for the suggestions!
Dave
P.S.
Mauricio16,
Please read the entire thread before posting a response. As I stated earlier, I DO NOT have a D-Bracket...yet, and I HAVE tried a different PSU. Thanks for your suggestions though. Luckily it was not as an exteme of case as it could have been.
I guess both of us have learned a valuble lesson from this experience. When in doubt, reseat the RAM.

K7T Turbo2 (6330v5) problem (with locked Tbreds)

Hi,
I've recently bought a K7T Turbo2 board (6330v5) OEM version (green PCB) made probably for Fujitsu-Siemens UK. They probably didn't need those board anymore and sold them (a lot of wholesalers have them in my country now).
Anyway I think the board I bought is damaged, but I not sure.
The problem is that it won't POST with locked T-breds. I've tried a 2000+ (3rd week of 2004) and a 2400+ locked T-bred (46th week of 2003) and the PC haven't started.
But with a T-Bird 1400Mhz, a 1700+ and 1800+ Palomino (probably locked) and 2400+ unlocked T-bred the board started without any problems.
Is this the problem with new XP processors (produced after the 39th week 2003 and internally locked) and this board or I have a damaged board?
TIA,
Max

Well, I didn't know it was the OEM version when I was buying it... But in this case I don't think the bios is the problem. The board looks virtually the same as the normal board.
And it boots with a pre-39 (24th week of 2003) T-bred 2400+, so it's not a lack of compatibility with T-bred issue.
For me it seems that this board has problem with T-bred made after the 39th week of 2003 (internally locked ones).
So I need to know if all of those boards have the same problem, or only this one?
BTW. Currently I'm running my unlocked T-bred 2400+ on a Abit KT7A board, and I've tried the same locked T-bred 2400+ that failed on MSI K7T Turbo2 on my abit board and it also didn't boot. So maybe there's something wrong the KT133A chip which makes KT133A boards incompatible with new locked T-breds?
Of course the locked T-bred runs fine on a KT400 board or a nforce2 ultra400 boards...

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