K7T Turbo2 v.5 and 1800+ tbred (0.13u)?

Grettings All,
I come to you again with another question. I know that there has been some discussion on this especially with K7t v.3. So, if this is repetative please forgive me. My question is, do I have to upgrade my Bios to properly handle the Tbred (0.13u)? My Bios version is 3.5. I know that this Bios goes up to XP2200, but there is no specific mention of the Tbred core. I am very skiddish about doing an upgrade. I have read to many horror stories. Thanks for your help.
Dave

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Originally posted by xroyal
Dave, one last tidbit for fun. My 1600+ has default voltage of 1.75v. When I have run at default speed w/no overclocking, have set CPU voltage in bios to 1.55v. My chip runs like a cool, stable charm at the reduced voltage (obviously less CPU cooling and noise required).
You could experiment with taking your voltage down smallest increment at a time to establish min stable voltage for your chip.
EDIT: After I wrote above, I wondered if the insertion of the .13micron CPU with its lower voltage requirements may have remapped the original Turbo2 bios voltages of 1.55 to 1.85? Do you have a different range of voltages to choose from?
xroyal,
Thanks for the tidbit. I am a novice at playing around with voltages and such. I basically leave my systems at defaults. I know that I am probably missing out on a lot of fun, but my systems are for work and play so I can't afford down time.
To answer your question on the remapping, I will gladly check if you tell me how. Thanks again for your help.
Dave

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