K7T Turbo2 Ver.5 133 mhz bus

I am sure this issue has been addressed numerous times: However, I cannot get my K7T Turbo2 Ver. 5 system board to accept the 133 mhz bus with my Athlon 1700+ CPU. I have installed 133 mhz memory and, (as recommended in this forum), purchased and installed a 450 Watt power supply. This does not resolve the problem. When I jumper "J17" to 133MHZ (open), windows XP halts during the boot. Windows XP will only load in the shorted jumper position. The maximum CPU speed I can obtain is 1100 MHZ!! When I originally installed the CPU, I used white heat transfer lube between the CPU and the Athlon cooling fan. I have tried repeatedly to resolve this problem since I purchased the board....no success much frustration!
Attached Devices: HD's IBM-DTLA-307015, WDC WD400BB-AUA1; Display MSI GeForce4 MX/440; IDE DVD ROM 16X; Optorite CD/RW 4802; Voyetra Santa Cruz audio card; Lexmark X63 all-in-one printer; Linksys Ethernet adapter.
If anyone has a point by point solution please advise!!

The only other thing you might try is to barebones the system, just a video card , the ram and a harddrive attached, and try to boot then. If the system boots then, you have a conflict with a piece of hardware.you proceed ,adding one piece at a time, until you find whats causing the problem. Sometimes audio cards or Nic cards can cause problems.and sometimes just by switching the slots they are located in, can help. Good Luck BD.51 :D

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I've read in more than one place that the logic board from the 1 GHz FW800 machine can't be used with ANY dual processor. Can anybody tell me with a reasonable degree of certainty whether this is true or not?
Please don't bother answering based on general principles. I already believe -- tell me if I'm wrong -- that every other MDD FW400 or FW800 board CAN take a dual processor and, except for this question, EVERY processor will work EITHER with EVERY 133 MHz board OR with EVERY 167 MHz board.

From my experience the processor card should be compatible, but don't hang me if I'm wrong.
This page showes how to set different multipliers = bus ratios.
So, according to the default multipliers for the MDDs, you get:
6.5x 133 MHz bus = 864.5 MHz CPU (867 MHz)
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To fit the 133 MHz system bus you would have to change the multipliers on the processor daughter card to run at the processors native speeds.
Just one example:
1,000 MHz / 133 MHz = 7.5x
So, if you'd want to run a Dual 1.0 GHz processor on a 133 MHz system board you'd have to alter the multiplier from 6.0x (for the original 166 MHz system bus) to 7.5x (for your 133 MHz system bus) – the resistors to change the multiplier reside on the processor daughter board.
That said, keep in mind that this procedure is *NOT tested or confimed*, but it seems logical, doesn't it?
I had a OWC Mercury Extreme 1.4 GHz processor upgrade placed in a Gigabit Ethernet replaced into a Quicksilver (2001 version). As you can see here, it had set the multiplier to 14x to have it run at 1.4 GHz on the Gigabith Ethernet (100 MHz system bus) and I had to set the jumpers to a multiplier of 10.5x for the Quicksilver (133 MHz system bus).
Thus, if I had put the OWC Mercury Extreme running at 1.4 GHz in the 133 MHz bus Quicksilver unmodified back into the 100 MHz bus Gigabit Ethernet, it would run at 1050 MHz (roughly 1.0 GHz).
That's it. There wouldn't be more to it than that, but the latter source (for changing the motherboards system bus speed) states that Apple put in some protection on the processor daughter card to prevent increase in system bus speed if no dual processor is present. Since this doesn't apply to you as you stick to your 133 MHz system bus it shouldn't bother you.
*But don't blame me* if it should turn out to be completely wrong!
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Andreas.

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$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff Northbridge information
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$0400000000 Description : VIA KT133 series
$0400000001 Vendor ID : 1106 (VIA)
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$0400000003 AGP bus : revision 2.0
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$0400000007 AGP FW : not supported
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff Display adapter information
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$0000000000 Description : NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model...
$0000000001 Vendor ID : 10de (NVIDIA)
$0000000002 Device ID : 002d
$0000000003 Location : bus 1, device 0, function 0
$0000000004 Bus type : AGP revision 2.0
$0000000005 AGP status : enabled
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$0000000007 AGP SBA : not supported
$0000000008 AGP FW : not supported
$0000000009 Base address 0 : d6000000 (memory range)
$000000000a Base address 1 : d4000000 (memory range)
$000000000b Base address 2 : none
$000000000c Base address 3 : none
$000000000d Base address 4 : none
$000000000e Base address 5 : none
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff NVIDIA specific display adapter information
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
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$0100000006 Memory clock : 158.929MHz
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