K8D Master-FT PCI / Riser Card Help

Ok, I have just taking my first venture into the true server class motherboard. We chose the K8D Master-FT w/ a pair of opteron 240's. I have ran into a few issues that I just can't seem to find any answers on.
1. We used a third-party case which didn't come with a riser card. Do I need a PCI-X riser card or can I still use a 32bit riser. Also once I have the correct riser card can I still use 32bit PCI devices on the riser?
2. Next if I only want to use one slot can I just use the PCI-X slot on the motherboard without a riser? If so can I use a 32bit PCI card?
Thanks a bunch in advance.

Ok. Here are the details. We get the system board in and we grab a rack case with the correct form factor. Problem is the case didn't come with a riser card. None the less we where under the same impression that we could stick a PCI or PCI-X card in the slot. We only have a single card (RAID controller) which we intend to use. When we insert the PCI (32-bit) raid card in the PCI-X slot the system won't boot. We even tried inserting the card every which way we could in the slot thinking maybe we had inserted it wrong. Still no luck. Should our raid controller be 64 bit? Also we did have some riser cards that came with some ATX form factor rack cases, but when inserted into the PCI-X slot, the card slots face oddly up the motherboard towards the I/O panel. Thanks.

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