K8N Diamond - dual channel DDR in 4slots

Hi everybody.
That`s my first post here and It would be great if you guys could help me. I recently have searched the forum for an answer but i couldn`t found any.
I have MSI K8N Diamond main board and i recently added
Kingston ValueRAM 2x512MB 184Pin DIMM PC3200 DDRRAM Non-Parity CL3.
How can I make it work in dual channel mode with other two DIMMs. All four slots are full now - Before i put two DIMMs in first and third slot second and fourth slot was empty and it works fine.
All 4 DIMMs are the same.
Should I increase voltage somewhere in BIOS?
That`s the direct link to dabs.com where i bought this memory
http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=2NDK
I`ve got ATHLON 64 3700+
I would appreciate any help.

Thanks qyx.
Timing was set up at 2T. I increase voltage to 2.7V and restarted computer. It was still Single Channel Mode...maybe because i didn`t switch it off. Then I switched off the computer and swap the modules in slots. 1st and 2nd ban kwith old ones and 3rd, 4th bank with new ones. Now it`s in dual channel mode. I`m confused because i don`t know what changes made them work in dual channel mode-my fault.....but it works fine....thanks a lot.
Bas, memory works at 200Mhz...befoure i bought other two dimms i didn`t know that it will affects the speed
Need to learn more about all that "complicated equipment"
Thanks again.

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Quote from: s_quire on 28-January-07, 03:55:27
thanks for the help..
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MOVED: K8N Diamond Plus Dual Channel issues

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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=101639.0

Quote from: s_quire on 28-January-07, 03:55:27
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