K8N Diamond Plus boot problems

I just built a new computer and it was working fine for about a month. Then one morning when I started it up it wouldn't turn on. The front LED's turn on, and the fans all start, but nothing ever shows up on the screen. The set of four lights on the back show R R
G G
Nothing has changed since the pc was working fine. I haven't changed any bios settings or added any hardware or software. I did try resetting the bios using the CMOS jumper, but this didn't change anything. The lights on the back show that it is initializing ide drivers, but in the manual it also shows that it is one of the last steps in the start-up process, so i would think that the memory check, processor count, msi logo ect. should appear on the screen like it normally does. However, the LED that blinks when the hard drive is active never lights up, but when i open the case and feel the hard drive i can feel it vibrating like it is functioning properly. And if it is a hardrive failure, then shouldn't the bios still start up and show up on the monitor? I have heard that many weird problems can be attributed to the psu, but I have a 500w Antec Smartpower 2.0, which is a pretty reliable psu from what i've heard. Any help or suggestions would be welcome. Also, how would i test individual components to find out what is causing the problem? I think since everything is within a couple of months old i should be able to get replacements. Thanks in advance for any help.
System Spec:
MSI K8N Diamond Plus
AMD Athlon X2 3800+
Nvidia 7600 GT
Maxtor DiamondMax 300gb ultra16
2gb Corsair Twinx xms ddr400
500w Antec Smartpower 2.0
Thanks!!

Quote from: Mikeyp926 on 15-August-06, 12:58:47
You guys are awesome! Thanks a bunch for the info on ram, I feel like I understand it better and I looked and found all the stuff in the bios that you guys were talking about. I'm downloading speedfan currently and will go install it on my other computer. I tried swapping the sticks of memory, but i ran into the same problem i did before. So i'm assuming that i can safely say one stick is faulty right? And do any of you guys have any experience trying to get replacement memory from crucial? I'll have to go poke around their website also. Well, thank you all so much for all of your help. This is my first home built pc and i'm trying to learn alot about them. Once everything is running properly i may try a little overclocking, but i'd like to get everything running smoothly first. Just out of curiosity, what would make a stick of ram go bad like that? It was only a month old, and i thought crucial xms was pretty good ram. Is it not? or did i just get unlucky?
Thanks a ton for all the answers, this forum is the most helpful one i've ever seen. thanks!
Maybe that you're unlucky to get those faulty RAM. Crucial RAM is not bad if you get the better performance if you're ocing your PC if or else get the value RAM if you don't oced.
Quote from: Svenomous on 15-August-06, 12:55:00
Speedfan 4.29 works with the K8N Diamond Plus. I have it running now
Ok. Get it but not sure about MBM as it seems that it don't support it. :p

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K8N Diamond Plus BIOS problems

Hi , just replaced my lanpartyUT sli-dr expert with K8N Diamond Plus mobo and having problems allready :D
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When i shutdown and then power up, the system boots perfectly !? What can cause this kind of behaviour :/
I have OC:d quite many systems , but this is new even to me

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K8N Diamond Plus Video problems

When ever I run a Game or any 3D program like 3DMark the video locks up I removed 1 of the card to test for SLI problems and get the same result pixilated FPS drop to 1 from 50-60 FPS and the system reboots after about 2m
Only think I have not done is update the Video cards Bios I have a friend that is having the same problem only thing that is different is he has running Win XP SP2 and has the n516 model video card and he did the bios update and after he did the Bios on the video card the system does not lock any more but the video get pixilated even just sitting at the desktop and he all other drivers are up to date
Mainboard K8N Diamond Plus V1.0
CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo
2 CORSAIR 1GB DDR 400
2 eVGA 256-P2-N517-AX Geforce 7800GT 256MB
Antec NeoHE 500 ATX12V 500W
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Microsoft Windows XP Professional X64

Quote from: jzastrow on 19-February-06, 23:34:02
When ever I run a Game or any 3D program like 3DMark the video locks up I removed 1 of the card to test for SLI problems and get the same result pixilated FPS drop to 1 from 50-60 FPS and the system reboots after about 2m
Only think I have not done is update the Video cards Bios I have a friend that is having the same problem only thing that is different is he has running Win XP SP2 and has the n516 model video card and he did the bios update and after he did the Bios on the video card the system does not lock any more but the video get pixilated even just sitting at the desktop and he all other drivers are up to date
Mainboard K8N Diamond Plus V1.0
CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo
2 CORSAIR 1GB DDR 400
2 eVGA 256-P2-N517-AX Geforce 7800GT 256MB
Antec NeoHE 500 ATX12V 500W
Antec LifeStyle SONATA II
Microsoft Windows XP Professional X64
I have a similar system
as you can see. you need 550 minimum to run it.
also what video drivers are you using?
what was the order of your xp install?
where is your page file?
what config are you hdd's in?
when was the last time you ran dxdiag? (post log here)
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K8N Diamond Plus Audio Problem

New rig - have the K8N Diamond Plus, AMD 64 X2 4400+, Logictechz5300-e speakers. When testing audio - the front speaker channel does not work - the center and rear are fine - tested to make sure it wasn't the speakers - definitely a mobo problem. Have tried it set to 5.1, 6 and 8 channels. Has anyone else experienced this issue??
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The audio signal from DVD or CD is passingthrough IDE CABLE digital..(When listen CD audio).Now with X-FI you must buy(of corse if you have the money) 7.1 audio speakers like mine(gigaworks s750) to take full advance of your card.Believe me you won't regret it!.
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K8N DIAMOND PLUS (sound problem)

Hi all.
I have a problem with my sound output.
I can only hear sound from my front left speaker and my woofer.
My speakers is Logitech Z-680.
My JAUD1 is jumped 5+6 and 9+10.
Windows settings is 5,1 surround and digital output since i use SPDIF optical!
My PSU is a seasonic S12 500w so that should give the power the board need!!!
anyone that can help me ???

Quote from: phionex00 on 03-May-06, 03:10:01
apologise i ment to post this in my own thread :shocking:hi Bas
ive just been reading a few threads from the Sticky Index - Find Answers Here Fast
and there saying that neo and diamond are shipped with a fault that they reqiure -5V and that systems with modern psu's that dont have the -5v rail the mob has to bee sent back are you aware of this ??
You are hijacking somebody elses post....stop doing this.....
Also the Diamond Plus isn't the same board as the Diamond.....
Do not reply to me, or I remove your posts! (Warning number 2)
@Microdk, could it be that a jumper isn't set right?
Just a wild guess.....

K8N Diamond Plus Power Problems...

Hi all, having problems again When booting to OS , the monitor shuts down.. still after a few seconds the os boots
It sounds like the system "almost" isnt getting enough juice.. Could it be ?? The fortron epsilon (fx700-gln) psu has only 15A 12v rails,
and i think those should be like at least 18Amps am i right ? So maybe all the problems are caused by my crap PSU !?
Or could it be just that the 4pin molex (pci-e extra voltage) and my x-fi fatalitys (4pin mini) are connected on the same 12v rail ?
Its hard to connect all the devices, because the psu has only 2 mini connectors (4pin) and my system reguires 4 of those
So the same 12v rail that powers the 7900gtx cards (4pin mobo) powers allso my x-fi fatality , DVD-RAM
Would the "TAGAN" 1,1KW PSU do the trick !? Noticed that it has 20A 12 rails

Ok.. But still wondering.. theres so many little annoying problems that.. USB devices leave lights on when shutdown.. when booting to OS the monitor shuts down (no signal) for a while and then starts up..?.. it can of curse be the SLi configuration (startup).. and the reset/restart problem still occurs..
Just wondering my "BIOS" settings.. How these should be --> Pci-e (pcie1-pcie2-pci/pcie2-pcie1-pci) or something like that..<---
The second is PCI Latency (32/64/96/128.....)
The A643700+ is OC,d the same way that with my previous mobo (lanpartyUT nf4 sli-dr expert) , 250x11x4xdram/fsb:1/1x1.300.2vx2,80v
So its 1.5v & 2,75ghz (PRIMED) , ram timings are the same , ram in slots 1 & 2 (green & purple) , 24pin main power+8pin extra power+4pin molex.. , both pci-e cards have 6pin power , sli-bridge installed properly , newest nf4 x16 drivers , newest BIOS , newest display driver....
But still when not OC,d , the system works OK i cant understand :-X

K8N Diamond Plus Bios problem solved ;-))

Thanx for the advices related to my previous topic. The system is 100% stable now , the problem was bios protection & cpu vcore related
I noticed that i had forgot to enable the bios protection after flashing and enabled it, now the system boots every time normally
The cpu vcore was messed up too.. i changed the 1.300v+0.2v to 1.400v+0.1v and it works now, the vcore is now 1.524v and i just primed another 24hours
Oh i almost forgot, i have to give extra credit to MSi from making this EXELLENT board i tought that my previous "lanpartyUT nf4 sli-dr expert" board was good, but this mobo has deffinetly shown DFi its place

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When booting to OS , the monitor shuts down because theres not enough power to feed even the 7900gtx cards still the system boots, but
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K8N Diamond Plus Ram problems OCZ

I have a problem getting my board to find my OCZ pc3500 el ram as ddr 400, in auto the find em as ddr 333 and cant get em up too ddr 400.In manuel too
they still only find em as ddr 266 or ddr 333, tried too update my bios too 1.2 but then board gets unstable but can find emas ddr 400 in manuel mode but how too find the ram as ddr 400 with the 1.00 bios where board is stable.

Quote from: Whisper72 on 13-October-06, 23:32:42
thx for the response and that last tip from bosskiller worked like a charm my ram was sitting in dimm 1 and 3, now sitting in 1-2 and working perfeckt with manuel mode thx all
you are welcome mate , also keep in a mind Syar advice if you are planning to upgrade your memory in a future.

MOVED: MSI K8N Diamond SLi boot problem

This topic has been moved to AMD64 nVidia Based board.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=96886.0

Quote from: Sealance on 14-May-06, 22:30:32
We had a unit do the same thing that you are talking about here. I found after two days of test that it was the Heatsink. It had the grease but it was not seated just right. When I redid the Heat sink the issue went away. I had to clean them both and then surface the Heatsink with 600 grt paper.
When I put it back together it worked fine.
I can't say that this is it, what is wrong with yours but it does and is doing the same things that we had going on with us.
You might check this and see. Because it would not boot no matter what we did. And it will heat up and trip out in a second.
And this is after the machine had run playing games for a week or so. I thinkt he Heat sink warped from the heat. I have never seen one do this before but I guess it could happen. Any way it fixed ours.
Do You mean the CPU heatsink, or GPU heatsink? -
By the way, who wants to guess if I was blessed or not - and if buying a new $150+ PSU really helped
Please, any more help would be great

K8N Diamond Plus Firewire problem

Hello,
just wondering if the firewire ports is supposed to work with Windows XP x64?
Seems to me like XP doesn't detect the firewire ports at all; I'm trying to
connect my digital camcorder but no success.
I had a look in the Control Panel (Device Manager) but could not see any
firewire (1394) ports at all.
Any special drivers I need? Can't find any on the MSI site...
TCB

Quote from: DaveR on 19-May-06, 05:58:09
Is it enabled in the bios?
I agree with that if it doesn't enabled the Bios it won't appear in the device manager!

2 'problems' with the K8N Diamond Plus

Hi there.
I just bought a K8N Diamond Plus and I'm having some troubles installing my system in conjunction to my Decklink Extreme PCI-E ( http://www.decklink.com/products/sd/ ).
Here's my configuration:
MSI K8N Diamond Plus
AMD64 X2 4400+
ROSEWILL 6600GT PCI-E VGA
Decklink Extreme PCI-E
2GB RAM ( 2 x 1gb) Kingston
OCZ-520 12U Modstream Power Supply
plus 6 HD's (7200rpm) and 1 DVD-+RW
The problem is, when I try to initialize the system with the Decklink, which it's a PCI-E 1x, it just don't boot. Neither putting the Decklink on the 1x, nor in the 4x slot and nor in the 16x.
The Decklink is working just fine in another system and doesn't seem to be a problem with this card.
I wondered if there's any limitation in the K8N Diamond Plus with working with the ROSEWILL 6600GT PCI-E VGA plus the Decklink.
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The other thig is that when I take off the Decklink, the system boots normaly but a message appears while booting: "Not enough space to copy PCI option ROM 00:13:00".
And I don't have a clue about what's going on.
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Please enlighten me with this questions if possible.
Thank you very much.
Greets.
Igor Bineli

Remove the battery away for 10 minutes, clear CMOS, start the system to load setup/optimized defauts in bios setup. After that, disable all onboard items in bios setup that you won't to use. Save and exit.
Plug ROSEWILL 6600GT PCI-E VGA card, and start your system to check if there is the error message. If there is, borrow another brand VGA card to do a test.
Besides, update your MB bios and driver version to the latest one.

K8N DIamond Plus- 4 sticks of memory problem

I have a new Opteron 180 with a K8N Diamond plus mb. I am thinking about getting another 2g of memory to run with my current 2g of 3200 memory to speed up Vista even more. I thought the new chips could run 4 sticks of memory at 400 with a command rate of 2t. I wanted to try to see if it would work so I pulled two 512 pc3200 sticks from my wifes computer and installed it. At boot up it clocked the memory to 333 (which I expected it to actually) and I got into the bios and set it to 400 with 2t command rate and everything else at default settings. All the memory is Kingston value ram. The computer randomly booted and I had lockups at 400, but at 333 it ran fine, but I still couldn't run the memory at 1t with 333. I am using bios 1.33 as the other bios's always set the HT bus wrong for me. Is this just a function of the motherboard or is the memory not compatable with each other? I thought the motherboard is irrevelant since the memory controller is on the cpu?
Thanks for your help,
Scott

The memorycontroller IS inside the CPU.
And some are lucky to get it stable booting at DDR400 with 4 sticks, some get crashes.
However, most have drop-backs to DDR333.
It's a CPU limitation when using unbuffered memory.
Buffered memory should be able to do it, however, I'm not quite sure as this is an S939 type CPU.
You could try something if you know somebody that has buffered memory.
Sometimes it helps if you lower the other timings.

MOVED: K8N Diamond Plus Motherboard overclocking problem.

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
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Quote from: TimeReaper on 15-February-06, 09:15:17
I know this board can reach 300+ by reviews by Tom's Hardware. But I was wondering how I could get my FSB up there? I can't seem to get past the hurtle at 270. Anything above this will make the system fail to start up and I have to clear the BIOS again.
I lowered the HT to the equivalent of 3X, and CPU Multiplier to 8X using a venice core 3500+. I even tried adding voltage to the HT. I'm wondering if I'm missing something in this equation that stops me from getting 300+ FSB? The overclockable items are too many and unexplained.
If someone could spread some light on what else needs to be done, please tell me.
My system is as follows.
MSI K8N Diamond Plus
AMD64 3500+ Venice
OCZ DDR600 Platinum Elite
520 OCZ Powerstream
2x Samsung 200G@Raid 0
Zalman CNPS 9500 LED
Sapphire GTO2
Hi dude,
I have the similar problem as well. Sounds like you are in the bad shape, but yeah, try to loose your RAM settings. First, all settings auto seem to be good, but it's actually not the case. You have to set TRC and TRFC as higher than 12 and 14. I am seeting those to be 14, 18, and it seems to be working great. It will be better to set the burst length as 4 beats. I don't like this board coz I can't set the drive length to be weak instead of normal detected by the Windows. My system can post, but I got problems of playing 3D demos and games, which looks like it's the problem of motherboard. Not mature enough.
My rig:
AMD Athlon64 3700+ @ 2.7GHz
OCZ Platinum Elite DDR600 2.5-4-4-10 Dual Channel
Leadtek PX6800GT @ 425/1200 at 2nd PCIe slot
2 x WD 120GB 7200RPM + Samsung 160GB HD

K8N Diamond Plus Power on problem

I have this problem with the board where I shut down windows, and it does shut down by the way. But the strange thing is that right after it powers down, like say a second, it restarts itself as if I pressed the power button immediately after. Though I can correct this by pressing power again while it is still going through the motherboard check ups, I was wondering if someone had similar problems. If so, if there is a solution to correct this bug?
I am currently using the 1.16 version patch.

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Videocard=Sapphire X800GTO2
Soundcard=Creative X-Fi
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PSU=OCZ Powerstream 600
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1x Vortex 2 Intake crossblower
1x Slot Exhaust
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K8N Diamond Plus audio out problem

Hi,
I'm having an issue with the audio out on my K8N Diamond Plus. The rear audio out works fine when left jumpered. However when I connect the front panel audio connector to the mother board the volume of the rear audio out drops to an almost in audable level while the front panel audio works as expected.
At first I thought the rear audio had been completely disabled until I tried turning my speakers all the way up.
Is there a software issue here?
FYI I'm trying to use the front pannel audio connection on a Silverstone TJ07 case.

hey - mikein_texas here - i have same board but with a Centurion case -
couple of things i ran into - maybe will spark some ideas
initally i hooked up front panel audio and got nothing
then i read on page 2-19 of manual that 5-6,9-20 have to be jumpered for rear audio to work
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apparently unless i am reading it wrong and someone please correct me if so, but you can have front audio OR rear audio
BUT not both
again look at page 2-19 in manual and specifically at text in grey box in middle of page
Yukon PXE 2.01 ( 20040406 )
Pre-boot Execution Environment PXE v.2.1
DLink Cable Modem - model DCM-202
ViewSonic VX2025WM 20.1" Widescreen TFT LCD - 1680x1050, 800:1, 8ms
MSI K8N Diamond Plus Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI X16 ATX AMD
SAMSUNG Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model SFD321B/LBL1
SONY Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1615/B2s
XFX Geforce 7600GT PV-T73G-UDD3 Video Card
SAMSUNG 16X DVD±R DVD Burner - 5X DVD-RAM Write and LightScribe Black ATA/ATAPI Model SH-S162L/BEBN
COOLER MASTER Centurion 532 RC-532-SKN1 Black Computer Case
AMD Opteron 165 Denmark 1000MHz HT 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core
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Ultra ULT31849 X-Finity 600W Power Supply
Cooler Master A12025-12CB-5BN-L1- 120 x 120 x 25mm 1200rpm, 43cfm, 22dBA, LED, 3-pin - front intake case fan
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