K8N Diamond Plus... Lots o Crashes, and other wierdness

Well, gotta new build here. Ran fast and hard from an Abit A8N SLI that was never stable, after 5 months of tinkering.
Moved to the Diamond Plus SLI X16. Never had an MSI before, but had lots of the others (Asus, Epox, Abit, ECS, PCChips, etc) and am so far pretty happy.
However, there are some strange things happening as I iron out the bugs.
No BSODs fortunately yet to speak of, but plenty o crashes when exiting FarCry, Quake etc. Never during the game, but when I exit it blows up. Also, lots of graphics distortion, which I never had before.
The thing'll run Prime stable for hours with stock settings for everything plus OCZ mem settings specifically for this mobo (1T).
But the crashing while exiting is wierd. The windows dump file has no reference to drivers or anything else, niether does the event viewer, so I have no leads, especially as I'm not that experienced in this Mobo yet.
I have the latest Nforce and Geforce drivers. The thing is pretty stable, but gets a little wierded out in games.
Ideas greatly welcomed, no matter how hairbrained (but please don't tell me its my power supply )

Nanohead,
First off this is not criticism, but the Diamond Plus uses AMD Hyper Transport Technology more than any MB I seen, there may be high end severs that use it more, but I am not into that.
If you are going to be OC, the Diamond Plus you are going to have known something, a lot, about HT or you MB is going to be unstable.
The lay out of the BIOS HT parameters may not be prefect, but it is not bad for a companies first draft and that is what its.
With HT the timing and bandwidth between Processor, Northbridge and Southbridge is all variable in word length and clock speed. If you do not have them all set correctly you reduce system stably and throughput.
Because to be the maximum performance out of the system yon not only have to tune FSB, Memory Clock and all memory parameters. You are now PCI Express Bus parameters and HT parameters tune. You will notice I did not say adjust, they now need to be tuned, because they all have to be running just the right data rate or you will get corrupted data. Anyone of the subsystems now running to slow or to fast can crash the system.
And right now the Diamond Plus is stall a mix of old and new Technologies and everything has to be tuned manually or just leave it a factory default values, which will not be the fastest the system will run, but it hopefully will be the most stable.
The days of just cranking up the clocks to OC your compute are over.
Roger
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Hi there!
I've got an ASUS A8N32-SLI board and my X-Fi card does not work with it, nor does it for many other people with similar setups.
See here:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=31426
and here:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=26289
I get crackling and popping noises when running most games, e.g. BF2, Fear, FarCry. When my 2x7800GTX's are in SLI mode it crackles loads, e.g. start far cry, click options, and listen. When i disable SLI mode it crackles less, but it still crackles. Many others encounter similar issues with their systems that are not identical but the symptoms are similar - high load = crackling/popping.
My question is:
Is anyone here sucessfully running any X-Fi card (music, fatality, elite pro, etc) with 2x video cards and NO crackling/popping in BF2, FEAR and FarCry?
I've already had a replacement X-Fi card from creative which their tech guy said "should" fix it, lol, I'm wondering wether to replace my A8N32-SLI with an K8N Diamond Plus to fix the problem. Besides, the MSI board has better PCI slot location and works with nTune too unlike the ASUS board.

What's going on guys.
I hate to see peep's having soooo many prob's and it sucks major BALLZ. The reason why I'm reposting is that I encountered a new issue. Not with my rig, but a friend's.
We pretty much have the same setup. Differences are he's using 2GB of Corsair DDR400 (which is picking up as DDR333 as well), different branded video cards (I'm running two EVGA 7800GT's in SLi, he's running two BFG 7800GT's in SLi), XFi Platinum (me, Fatality Edition) and he's got a dedicated ITE RAID PCI card for his RAID from his previous rig. Configured his BIOS pretty much the same way I have it running (he wanted to Overclock his AMD x2 4400+ to 2.6 GHz), but when it came to installing Windows we kept getting BSOD's during installation. Looked over things numerous times and it didn't make sense. We resetted the BIOS to default settings and Windows went through without a hitch. We tried OC'ing it one more time and Windows was fine. But, when he installed and ran Quake 4, either Windows or the game would just lock up. He booted back into the BIOS and put the CPU back at stock frequency of 2.2 GHz. Game ran flawlessly afterwards. That points at the processor. The only differences were we both have different stock fans and his CPU was manufactured in July '05. Mine in Sept '05. His rig also reports the infamous "Phantom" PCI modem as well.
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Anoying issue with K8N Diamond PLUS and overclocking.

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Koolance EXOS AI Watercooling
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thats funny mine did that when i first got it , but when i received my new memory and video card everything was normal...so i dont remember if it was the memory or the VC..i just totally forgot about it..funny though i thought it was only me

K8N Diamond Plus and MBM5

Anybody got MotherBoard Monitor 5 or Speedfan, working with the K8N Diamond Plus
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The programs to create custom screens on the LCD is the LCD studio.
If anybody got it to work please enlight me

Neither of those progs have support for the Diamond Plus...as stated, Everest Ultimate does though.
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BTW this is offtopic but can you get read write queue bypass to 16x? I set mine to 16x but it shows up as 8x in windows. Same with the idle cycle limit. I set it to 256 but i shows up as 16. Really retarded mobo IMO
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Quote from: skippy9146 on 20-January-06, 08:51:51
They should run fine... as a Diamond Plus comes with a Dual Core compatable BIOS.
You'll have to post back with some news when you get it together.... I have a 165 that needs a new home.
thanks for the reply, i kinda figured it might support it, as the M8N Diamond does (accordingto the cpu support list) but MSI's site doesn't seem to have much info about the K8N Diamond plus, not even a single bios upgrade or anything.
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1) can't install vista 5270 - common problem, not just me
2) poor pci slot location when using 2 pci-express dual width gfx cards
3) only available pci slot shares an IRQ with 2nd gfx card, bad for sound cards
I was going to order one this weekend but i might just not bother now as someone else posted the xfi cards don't work with them (popping/crackling, just like i have now) and that was my main motivation for getting rid of my asus board as my xfi card doesn't work either.

WANTED! - List of IRQs and Hardware for K8N Diamond Plus?

Hi there!
I'm trying to find out what hardware shares IRQs on the MSI K8N Diamond Plus motherboard.
I want to use an X-Fi card in the bottom (orange) PCI slot, and 2x 7800GTX cards in the PCI-Express x16 slots and would like to know if any of the devices will share IRQ's with onboard hardware.
You can list your IRQs by running msinfo32 - start, run, msinfo32 [enter], then click expand the following item in the tree System Summary -> Hardware Resources -> IRQs.
You can export the IRQ's in msinfo32, make sure the IRQ list is displayed, then click file/export, then save to a text file. Open the text file with notepad and copy and paste your results to your reply below.
I'm trying to find out whether an MSI K8N Diamond Plus will have less conflicts or less important conflicts than a ASUS A8N32-SLI.

There are 4 PCI IRQs called INTA#, INTB#, INTC# and INTD#.
These INTx# are interrupts and are level sensitive, this means that the electrical singnaling allows for them to be shared among all PCI cards. All single device/ function PCI cards that use only 1 interrupt must use INTA# as this is one of the rules in the PCI spec. If there are additional devices within a chip or on-board a card then these additional devices can use INTB#~INTD#, since there are very few multifubtion PCI boards (none that I know of right off my head) this means that most or all devices will use INTA#.
With that said; you do not really need to worry about hard wired INTA#~INTD# at board level.
If you are using Win XP I would not even worry about IRQs as Windows uses "Virtual IRQ routing" which simply means Windows XP will assing IRQ to each device and XP handles this extremly well.

Water cooling and the K8N Diamond Plus...

I have a water cooled DFI mobo atm and I want to change it to the K8N Diamond Plus and I noticed that the board has a heat pipe on the northchip and on some other component. My question is this; I want to put a water block on the northchip but I don't know if I can. Can I safely remove the heat pipe setup to put a water block on the north chip and if I do what about the other component that the heatpipe was covering? I hope I wasn't to confusing in the explanation.

Hello !!
You will need two Waterblocks, one for the north- second one for the southbridge.
There should be no Problems mounting the blocks if the mounting holes fit the mainboard.
You can easily remove the Heatpipe. You have to squeeze those nipples togehter tha are on the backside of the board. You can do it manually but you can also use a cylindric tool to squeeze them together. I cut a plastic pen i the half, and pushed it on those mounting latches carefully.
___|\ half pen
latch___ <----
|/ ___________
After this procedure the Heatpipe is only held from the thermal grease on the chipset.
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I need help DDR voltage and latencies (K8N Diamond Plus)

I noticed my DDR voltage was incorrect in the bios and I don't know what "Auto" is doing with my timings. I have 2GB of Corsair TWINX2048-3200C2 DDR400 Memory installed on DIMM1 and DIMM2 of my K8N Diamond Plus board.
So far I've made the following changes (as my RAM's specs indicate) in the BIOS but I'm new to this (first build).
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CAS 2.0
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Quote from: memeticvirus on 14-May-06, 15:41:10
I'm having an issue with the 1.10 BIOS that is preventing me from manualy setting the timings...The problem I'm having right now is deciding what BIOS to install and where to download it. Perhaps you could help me with that?
With pleasure! I had the same problem with the v1.10 BIOS, as did another member here. I flashed BACK to the v1.0 BIOS (make sure to use the command line switched (just run the batch file)) and was able to set timings, and then I flashed directly to the 3.0A BIOS and was able to adjust timings still. See my old thread here.
For my success (I don't know if any or all of these influenced it, but I'm just happy it works) in flashing I did the following:
Download the 1.0 (original) and 3.0A (latest "official") BIOS images from MSI's support site.
Downloaded the DrDos BIOS flash bootable ISO CD image from bootdisk.com
Used my ISO software to add the BIOS image files onto the ISO image.
Burned the ISO to CD.
Booted from the CD
Flashed to 1.0
Cut Power (flipped PSU switch in back), held down the CMOS reset switch button on the mobo and the power button for 45 seconds.
Powered up, set "Optimized Defaults" and set memory voltage to 2.75v and rebooted.
Set all "normal" BIOS parameters (boot devices, et al).
Windows (x64) loaded with no issues, Everest reported timings appropriately
Did the same procedure for the 3.0A BIOS, with similar success.
You can see my post or click on the link in my sig for detailed memory reports.
Quote from: RogerP on 15-May-06, 03:04:55
Are you running just one set of TWINX2048-3200C2's?
Just one pair. I fiddled with the CR and the only result was with the single known good DIMM my latency got slightly slower (like a 5ns drop), but still no love with 2 DIMMS. I think it is just dead. But this is not my story (at least not in this thread)...this is memticvirus's story.

MSI K8N Diamond Plus - Guide to my first week

OK, not a newb here, but been around the block quite a bit. MSI K8N Diamond Plus is my 5th A64 mobo (ECS K8M800, my daily undestroyed computer, K8T800, my 12 year olds gamer, Asus A8V Deluxe, first 939 system, Abit AN8 SLI, first SLI gamer, and now the MSI Diamond Plus). Had the KDP (K8N Diamond Plus) for more than a week now, and here's what I've learned.
This is state of the art again, and we have no one to blame but ourselves for the pain this causes us when we upgrade like lunatics
And as usual, the drivers and BIOS are al Dente (i.e. not cooked enought yet, a little raw)
MSI is also oddly silent on this system, which is wierd, as they are a large company, and specifically cater to enthusiasts. But their BIOS guys are MIA. Hopefully this will not be forever. Asus, ABIT, DFI, Epox are always fast with fixes
The board is a nice design, with everything basically accessible, as much as any other board. Lots of purposeful components, not too many dumb frills. No tooty fruity colors, but rather practical parts.
The new 2 piece NForce chipset is fine, and the MSI guys gave us a decent, but funky cooler. It gets a little warm to the touch when you pound on it with Prime95, or Quake4, but other than that it is fine
The manual has a zillion typos, and fortunately for us in this forum, we have shared what we've learned. The translation from Chinese to English leaves quite a bit to be desired, and hopefully, MSI will learn from Asus and Abit and get a better translation service. In 2006 this is just plain stupid, especially with a $225 board
As usual, the mobo supplied tweaker utilities are just aweful. They look like a hallucination from a Hunter S Thompson book, and they work about as well. Core center is a sad state of affairs, and the rest of them just burrow their way into your otherwise stable system and cause it to have poor behavior. And therefore as usual, the BIOS is the best way, if slowest, to tweak this bundle of parts
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
The board is clearly sensitive, which is a result of it being high strung. This is no different than any "first out" product I've ever bought. Most take 2 or 3 turns of the crank to get totally stable and forgiving. This one hated my OCZ platinum EL 2Gb kit memory, and it brought out the worst in one of the SLI based EVGA 7800 GT COs. These components worked in the Abit AN8 SLI (although not always great), but the MSI has ZERO tolerance for even the slightest pertubation from the memory. It was BSOD city until I removed both of these components by process of elimination that took probably 100 hours
Once I removed the bad components, and replaced the memory with Geil Ultra X 2x512 2-2-2-5, it worked great, ran Prime95 for 10 hours with no errors, and seems reasonably stable. I've RMA-d the bad 7800GT CO back to EVGA, and will report back on how SLI behaves when I get the new one (cross shipped of course, I haveno patience )
I also now need to replace the 2Gb RAM kit with something that the board will tolerate. I may RMA the 2Gb kit back to OCZ and try another one, but I dunno. I love OCZ but I have a bad feeling about this, even though they have great!!! support. I may try OCZ PC4000 or the RAM that Roger successfully used.
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth
Finally, I hope this board attracts more people, and therefore more tweakers that can figure out all these gadgets and settings. Everyone flocked to the Asus X16 SLI product, which is too bad, as this one needs lots o' folks to hack it up for us to figure out what is going on.
The on board Creative audio sounds lousy to my ears, and I will replace it with an Audigy 2ZS gamer that I had in the Abit. It just sounds better, but hopefully the drivers will not trash my newly stable system. Creative scares me, they scare me alot.
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
I hope this info is somewhat valuable to someone on this board. I will post details of all changes that I make, as others are doing, so we can at least take care of ourselves with this thing.

Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
first of all, i do think that all the settings in the BIOS have an explanation in the manual, even if it's a basic one. if that explanation doesn't tell you everything in detail, is because if you do need a detailed explanation of the settings, you probably shouldn't be messing around with those settings.
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth.
wanna tell me how did you get 1.95V on that mobo?
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
a 0.5V bump? again, you must be joking. maybe 0.05V.

K8N DIamond Plus- 4 sticks of memory problem

I have a new Opteron 180 with a K8N Diamond plus mb. I am thinking about getting another 2g of memory to run with my current 2g of 3200 memory to speed up Vista even more. I thought the new chips could run 4 sticks of memory at 400 with a command rate of 2t. I wanted to try to see if it would work so I pulled two 512 pc3200 sticks from my wifes computer and installed it. At boot up it clocked the memory to 333 (which I expected it to actually) and I got into the bios and set it to 400 with 2t command rate and everything else at default settings. All the memory is Kingston value ram. The computer randomly booted and I had lockups at 400, but at 333 it ran fine, but I still couldn't run the memory at 1t with 333. I am using bios 1.33 as the other bios's always set the HT bus wrong for me. Is this just a function of the motherboard or is the memory not compatable with each other? I thought the motherboard is irrevelant since the memory controller is on the cpu?
Thanks for your help,
Scott

The memorycontroller IS inside the CPU.
And some are lucky to get it stable booting at DDR400 with 4 sticks, some get crashes.
However, most have drop-backs to DDR333.
It's a CPU limitation when using unbuffered memory.
Buffered memory should be able to do it, however, I'm not quite sure as this is an S939 type CPU.
You could try something if you know somebody that has buffered memory.
Sometimes it helps if you lower the other timings.

Someone tell me it aint so: K8N Diamond Plus nForce4

simple really work were buying a job lot of computer bits and pieces so i thought might as well bung a few things on for myself and take advantage of the discount, so a new mobo, memory, and graphics card ive got more than enough spares hdd, fans, dvd/cd drives
took all the stuff home tonight thought i would stick it altogether leave it installing with baby sitter and go pub. So build it and then look at it strangly thinking im missing something then it hits powersupply, bugger how could i forget the powersupply have no fear i'll just take it out of my other rig. so out it comes and i start connecting it all up then i come accross the 12v cpu connecter and i begin to search for a 4 pin connection on my shiny new mobo and what do i find a bloody 8pin one.
The mobo in question is MSI K8N Diamond Plus, nForce4 SLI X16, Socket-939
The power supply in question is found in my sig
My questions is am I screwed, will i have to wait till monday to order a new power supply then wait till it gets delivered or can i just ignore the little factor of 4pins into 8 doesnt fit slap it in switch on and not have the computer start blowing smoke at me. im suspecting a long wait till monday and a longer wait till delivery but stranger things have happened in the computer world

Quote from: thorpe on 17-June-06, 18:13:01
i'll be honest i was thinking your all bonkers
that's not a nice thing to say
Quote from: thorpe on 17-June-06, 18:13:01
got the wife to press the power on button
roflmao this is the best part. i think we should all make our wifes/girlfriends (or the male equivalents) to push the button after a heavy OC or after messing around with the system. that way you can blame it on them if something happens

Aftermarket HSF options for K8N Diamond Plus

Just built a new rig with the K8N Diamond Plus and am very pleased with the board -- worked great from first power up and with a little BIOS tweaking I have no trouble getting a 50% overclock from my dual core Opteron 170. No headaches at all, unlike my previous experiences with Abit boards.
The AMD heatsink fan unit (with heatpipes) provided with the 170 is not bad at all, but I'd like to replace it with a more capable unit, along the lines of the Zalman 9500, Scythe Ninja, Tuniq Tower 120, Thermalright XP-120, etc. The tall heatsink of the Nvidia NB is close to the CPU socket and quite high, so I'm not sure if any of these will fit. Anyone using one of these or similar heatsinks ? Please let me know if they fit, or did not fit.
Since I could find any of the 7800GTX 512MB boards I wanted, I'm using a single MSI X1900XT card right now but plan to go SLI in the future with 7900GTX cards driving the 30" Dell monitor. The ATI video board and nVidia mainboard surprisingly get along great, with no crashes so far and 3DMark06 scores above 6000 -- the X1900XT is an impressive piece, and much faster than the X800XT-PE I had in my previous computer. But the fan can be extremely loud and the Catalyst Control Center sucks. Unfortunately the old ATI control panel is no longer offered...

TimeReaper,
The problems your are talking about are not uncommon with this MS-7220. The BIOS Clear Circuit physically has problems and that is not something they are going fix with a BIOS upgrade.
The BIOS Clear Circuit actually trashing the values stored in the CMOS by not doing a complete clearing of the CMOS is causing the problem. What leaves trash for parameters, for the BIOS to use when rebooting.
Let give you an example that fits your case. You can set the BIOS to turn the system on at any give time and date. So, if the trash in CMOS is in those parameters storage location. Therefore, whatever trash value gets stored in the locations, as a dated and time, will turn the computer on at that time. So, you could of had the computer come on in the meddle of the night two week later. Now, think of all the functions the BIOS have and how many weird things people are having and do not know why. There is one guy that is a regular on the Forum how has been fighting a problem I know is caused by trash in the BIOS CMOS, but Strick and I have ask him to do a good CMOS clearing and he just will not do it. I even wrote out in great deal the over night CMOS clear procedure I use. It is a pain in the ass, but some times, I have too use it. I just had to use it, upgraded V3.09 using short CMOS Clear and had no problem. Used the short procedure again when upgrading to V3.0A and everything when to hell, had to finally use the long overnight procedure and reinstall Windows to get computer to run right again.
NoBS, when your computer goes BOOO during the night just plain it o MSI.
Roger
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Which PSU for MSI K8N Diamond Plus?

I am so frustrated ... I have spent over 6 hours trying to find out which power supplies I can use with the MSI K8N Diamond Plus.
I am not able to find any PSU that has 24 pin, 8 pin and 4 pin power connectors ... do you have to get them custom made or something? I am in Switzerland and it is hard to track these things down if you do not speak the language.
This is the page which I am using to try and find a compatible PSU:
http://www.stegcomputer.ch/browse.asp?cat=376
I think the Spire Rocketeer VI should work but am not sure.
Can anybody recommend a PSU that is compatible with this board? Please.

Quote from: russellmrgn on 27-March-06, 20:51:26
Off topic.
Kenito443,
I see you have the Stacker830, was looking at that case myself. How do you find it performance / quality wise?
Russell
Yeah i love it...the cooling is amazing, my case never goes above 30C and the cpu idles at 22c and never goes over 27C even when OC'd,.. granted i have substantial cooling for the cpu. the case is completely tool less and boasts a up to 9 12cm fans...the case is double encased Al so with a silent PSU (true 500W), which is my set up , it is extremely quiet. i was going to get the lian li until i saw both of them on display. the lian li seemed a little harder to set up for water cooling -if i wanted that option in the future, and the tool less feature for the cm stacker was a lot more appealing. Interestingly, it has its own proprietary hard drive noise reduction and cooling doohickey. Also, the mb has this cool pull out tray plus the PSU rail is really easy to accomadate for a larger PSU. the store where i bought it from in santa clara CA threw in some of these nice dust filters with the case and I was sold. the only con was the price, i paid around $230, which is a little expensive for a CM....oh and a word of warning , the case doesnt really look that big in pictures, but it is HUGE !! it has 10 5.25-inch bays..you can fit every single imaginable peripheral and still have room to fit your kitchen sink..i was definitely surprised to see how big it was in person.

K8N Diamond Plus/Lian Li v1000

Has anyone actually installed the K8N Diamond Plus in a Lian Li v1000 to verify any cooling problems? I have a v1000 Case and I just ordered the Diamond Plus. I hope I didn't make a mistake!

Quote from: Plumbergeek on 22-February-06, 05:21:43
Hey kenito443 ,
I noticed your stacker 830, Do you like it? I was leaning toward the Lian Li they are discussing here until I saw the CM Stacker 830.
Plumbergeek
Yeah i love it...the cooling is amazing, my case never goes above 30C and the cpu idles at 22c and never goes over 27C even when OC'd granted i have substantial cooling for the cpu. the case is completely tool less and boasts a up to 9 12cm fans...the case is double encased Al so with a silent PSU, which is my set up , it is extremely quiet. i was going to get the lian li until i saw both of them on display. the lian li seemed a little harder to set up water cooling if i wanted that option in the future, and the tool less feature for the cm stacker was a lot more appealing and it has its own proprietary hard drive noise reduction and cooling doohickey. Also, the mb has this cool pull out tray and the PSU rail is really easy to accomadate a larger PSU. the store where i bought it from in santa clara CA threw in some of these nice dust filters with the case and I was sold. the only con was the price, i paid around $230 for which is a little expensive for a CM..oh and a word of warning , the case doesnt really look that big in pictures, but it is HUGE !! it has 10 5.25-inch bays..you can fit every single imaginable peripheral and still have room to fit your kitchen sink..i was definitely surprised to see how big it was in person.

K8N Diamond Plus + Adaptec 39320

I have just built the following
K8N Diamond Plus + ATI All-In-Wonder 800GT + Adaptec 39320 + 2 x Atlas 15k II (Raid 0) + 2 sticks of 2100 memory
When I reboot it's 50/50 whether or not we get to see the XP desktop or get a reset. From a warm restart (within XP) it hardly ever boots. From a cold start I get more success. In safe mode it gets as far as MUP.SYS and then waits. After that it may boot XP or reset. Also the XP logo (fade in) at the start stutters a lot.
So I get the Adaptec bios screen, I get the XP logo fading in and then just when you expect to see the blue desktop it resets. I have seen a couple of "controller failed to respond in time" in the XP event log.
Is this some kind of timing issue? Is there a known fix?
thanks
charker

Charker,
You power supply looks like a good one. The reason that Stick and I were jumping on you power supply is that the symptoms you were giving are those that we see a lot of and the cause nine out of ten times is to small or bad power supply. Yours being new this should not be the case, but even the best company let a bad one get out the door some times, for right now I am going to assume that the power is OK.
One other thing before we get to your problem, the Forum likes to see your system specifications in your post or preferred in your signature. It helps us help serive you better, note my signature, if you would had a signature like mine or Stick’s we would not of had the ask you about you power supply and could have gone directly to other causes of problem that can cause you symptoms and saved a lot of time.
Now, there have been many problems with the Diamond Plus. It is a very advance motherboard number and many people with little experience with computer are having the most problems. As you see I am building a new Diamond Plus system and I am also using a third party Hard Drive controller like you are so, I think we can talk and know what the other is saying, but just so I know what level of instructions I need to give when I ask you to do something. Wil you let know a little about yourself and computers.
First, myself and others have had problem with thrashed BIOS parameters that are not listed in the BIOS setup routine, so I would like you to Clear your BIOS as the first thing you do. However, there is a problem here to the MS-7220 MB many people have been having a problem with the reset circuit on the MB. Therefore, to insure you have a truly cleared BIOS and it will not given us problems. Unplug the AC Power and pop the battery out of the motherboard and let it set all night or at lest eight hours. I personally run around in circles for days until some one clued me in to the trick.
Second, unplug all equipment not required to start Windows and see if that has any effect on the problem. Where we are going with all this is looking for some hardware or software that is not responding fast enough or at all the in the required time Windows is giving it. Following this same line check you System Even Log for Warnings or error about hardware or services that Windows has to restart more than once or does not respond quickly enough.
Third, I have new BIOS that if you would like to try it sent me a personal message with your e-mail address and I will send you a copy.
Try all of that and let me know what you find. Do not reply only if you just still have problem, because we like to know if what we have told you worked and it helps other people who may be having your same problem.
If you do not understand any of my instructions or need more details, just reply and we will work it out.
Good luck and hope to hear from you soon.
Roger
When submitting a problem, include a complete list of your system components; include part numbers, all Power Supply Voltages, and their output ratings. It is almost impossible to estimate what your problem is without knowing something about it.

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