K8n diamond plus quick advice

All I need to know is why in the bios, how do I lower the LDT to 4x, and why when I modify the CPU multiplyer to x10 in the BIOS it results x11 in Windows???????????

It would be great if MSI would release settings and setup types for the Motherboard.
And a list of what each one did and the outcome of using or changing a setting. Most we know,
but a few are new and we do not know how they where intended for use or setting.
Almost all of the Board books I have now come with a detailed setting list and what they do
and what you can gain or lose by changing a setting.
Heck it could be a text file we could download from here if they did not want all to have the file.
But it would make it nice for us and save lots of time.
Also does MSI ever answer support emails?

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Soundblaster Audigy on MSI K8N Diamond Plus, Sound Linked? vs Audigy2 ZS?

Had a couple of quick questions regarding the Soundblaster Audigy onboard chip on my MSI K8N Diamond Plus. I have the audio connected to a front panel, and when I try and change the Right or Left speaker volume balance in Windows (by going to volume control and dragging the balance slider right or left), the volume slider goes down and the balance slider snaps back to center. As in my previous post, I had some damage to my front panel connector pins and wanted to make sure this wasn't a hardware issue requiring a replacement of the board.
Also, I have a Soundblaster Audigy2 ZS card from my previous system, and I was wondering if it added anything the onboard Soundblaster chip doesn't provide. I was thinking of installing it, but if the onboard audio does everything the card would, I'd rather just use the onboard solution.
Thanks.

Quote from: syar2003 on 21-August-06, 06:59:38
Onboard creative is just live24 marketed as Audigy SE
live 24bit is an audigy SE striped down of some features.

Tips for my K8N Diamond Plus

so although i have been into hardware for awhile now i have never really been a big OC'er. it was never something i really wanted to do since i work my arse off to get my hardware. my buddy recently OC'ed his micro-ATX board with his AMD 3700+ from 2.2 to 2.9 on a stock heatsink and he is sitting stable. this got me thinking and wanting to try out a bit of OC'ing just to see what i am able to push my system until i upgrade from my current CPU to a new 4400+ dual core. so here is my system and im just looking for tips/a quick walkthrough of what i need to tweak to OC my box and keep it stable.
CPU: AMD 3500+ 939-socket, Newcastle core stock at 2.2ghz
MoBo: MSI K8N Diamond Plus with the 3.09 BIOS
RAM: 2x1gig sticks of PQI Turbo 400mhz/PC3200 timings of 3-4-4-7
PSU: Sunbeam 550watt SLI certified
Video Cards: 2x eVGA 7900gt's SLI'ed
that is basicly the big stuff, i have a X-FI soundcard and all SATA HDD's and stuff but that stuff doesnt really matter too much when it comes to OC'ing. anyways, im just looking for directions on what i should set my stuff to. if you could also through in a run down of how HT, the multiplier, my FSB, and the DRAM/FSB settings affect each other i would really appreciate it.
basicly all i would need is something like this for my settings:
multiplier:
vcore:
FSB:
DRAM/FSB:
mem timings:
HT settings:
and anything else i have left out.
again, i would really appreciate the help.

Quote from: Stick on 22-November-06, 19:13:44
geez guys, can't believe you haven't spoted the mistake yet.
first, the newcastle is socket 754, there is no newcastle core for socket 939.
k8n diamond plus doesn't have a 3.09 BIOS.
so iostream, please make sure that you get the details correctly.
tiresmoke, syar and bosskiller, slacking guys, slacking? (joke)
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Core Newcastle s.939(http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=65000304) ----> CPU ID: http://www.techpowerup.com/cpudb/details.php?id=43
MSI K8N Diamond Plus BIOS 3.09 exist, can be found here:( 6 = MS-7220 bios 3.09) ---> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=101664.0

4 year old MSI K8N Diamond Plus [MS-7220], best upgrade CPU

I built this system about 3 1/2 years ago. It has AMD 64 4000 San Diego. It still runs respectable, especially with new Radion 4850. My question is, what is the fastest CPU I can upgrade to, and is it worth while? Is the dual core a better choice than the single. Thanks for any advice.
MSI K8N Diamond Plus [MS-7220] AMD 64 4000 San Diego
2 GB DDR 400, Radeon 4850 1 GB
WD 320 GB SATA, Lite on 24x DVD

Quote from: Henry on 11-March-10, 12:41:52
It is to laugh Ha, Ha, I just sold an X2 4200+ on eBay Friday and it fetched $56 USD. That's only $20 less than I paid for it 2 or 3 years ago.
I've got an opteron 185 that I'll trade for a Big Bang Fuzion...

K8N Diamond Plus + Adaptec 39320

I have just built the following
K8N Diamond Plus + ATI All-In-Wonder 800GT + Adaptec 39320 + 2 x Atlas 15k II (Raid 0) + 2 sticks of 2100 memory
When I reboot it's 50/50 whether or not we get to see the XP desktop or get a reset. From a warm restart (within XP) it hardly ever boots. From a cold start I get more success. In safe mode it gets as far as MUP.SYS and then waits. After that it may boot XP or reset. Also the XP logo (fade in) at the start stutters a lot.
So I get the Adaptec bios screen, I get the XP logo fading in and then just when you expect to see the blue desktop it resets. I have seen a couple of "controller failed to respond in time" in the XP event log.
Is this some kind of timing issue? Is there a known fix?
thanks
charker

Charker,
You power supply looks like a good one. The reason that Stick and I were jumping on you power supply is that the symptoms you were giving are those that we see a lot of and the cause nine out of ten times is to small or bad power supply. Yours being new this should not be the case, but even the best company let a bad one get out the door some times, for right now I am going to assume that the power is OK.
One other thing before we get to your problem, the Forum likes to see your system specifications in your post or preferred in your signature. It helps us help serive you better, note my signature, if you would had a signature like mine or Stick’s we would not of had the ask you about you power supply and could have gone directly to other causes of problem that can cause you symptoms and saved a lot of time.
Now, there have been many problems with the Diamond Plus. It is a very advance motherboard number and many people with little experience with computer are having the most problems. As you see I am building a new Diamond Plus system and I am also using a third party Hard Drive controller like you are so, I think we can talk and know what the other is saying, but just so I know what level of instructions I need to give when I ask you to do something. Wil you let know a little about yourself and computers.
First, myself and others have had problem with thrashed BIOS parameters that are not listed in the BIOS setup routine, so I would like you to Clear your BIOS as the first thing you do. However, there is a problem here to the MS-7220 MB many people have been having a problem with the reset circuit on the MB. Therefore, to insure you have a truly cleared BIOS and it will not given us problems. Unplug the AC Power and pop the battery out of the motherboard and let it set all night or at lest eight hours. I personally run around in circles for days until some one clued me in to the trick.
Second, unplug all equipment not required to start Windows and see if that has any effect on the problem. Where we are going with all this is looking for some hardware or software that is not responding fast enough or at all the in the required time Windows is giving it. Following this same line check you System Even Log for Warnings or error about hardware or services that Windows has to restart more than once or does not respond quickly enough.
Third, I have new BIOS that if you would like to try it sent me a personal message with your e-mail address and I will send you a copy.
Try all of that and let me know what you find. Do not reply only if you just still have problem, because we like to know if what we have told you worked and it helps other people who may be having your same problem.
If you do not understand any of my instructions or need more details, just reply and we will work it out.
Good luck and hope to hear from you soon.
Roger
When submitting a problem, include a complete list of your system components; include part numbers, all Power Supply Voltages, and their output ratings. It is almost impossible to estimate what your problem is without knowing something about it.

K8N Diamond Plus BIOS Bootmanager?

On my old DFI Nforce3 board I had a feature that was really handy. At boot I could hit escape and then choose the drive I want to boot from in a quick popup menu. Does the K8N Diamond Plus have a simmular feature? I find this to be very usefull becasue I dual boot x64 and x32 winxp and not having to deal with software bootmanagers was really nice. Honestly it was the only nice thing that DFI board had

Thank you

MSI K8N Diamond Plus - Guide to my first week

OK, not a newb here, but been around the block quite a bit. MSI K8N Diamond Plus is my 5th A64 mobo (ECS K8M800, my daily undestroyed computer, K8T800, my 12 year olds gamer, Asus A8V Deluxe, first 939 system, Abit AN8 SLI, first SLI gamer, and now the MSI Diamond Plus). Had the KDP (K8N Diamond Plus) for more than a week now, and here's what I've learned.
This is state of the art again, and we have no one to blame but ourselves for the pain this causes us when we upgrade like lunatics
And as usual, the drivers and BIOS are al Dente (i.e. not cooked enought yet, a little raw)
MSI is also oddly silent on this system, which is wierd, as they are a large company, and specifically cater to enthusiasts. But their BIOS guys are MIA. Hopefully this will not be forever. Asus, ABIT, DFI, Epox are always fast with fixes
The board is a nice design, with everything basically accessible, as much as any other board. Lots of purposeful components, not too many dumb frills. No tooty fruity colors, but rather practical parts.
The new 2 piece NForce chipset is fine, and the MSI guys gave us a decent, but funky cooler. It gets a little warm to the touch when you pound on it with Prime95, or Quake4, but other than that it is fine
The manual has a zillion typos, and fortunately for us in this forum, we have shared what we've learned. The translation from Chinese to English leaves quite a bit to be desired, and hopefully, MSI will learn from Asus and Abit and get a better translation service. In 2006 this is just plain stupid, especially with a $225 board
As usual, the mobo supplied tweaker utilities are just aweful. They look like a hallucination from a Hunter S Thompson book, and they work about as well. Core center is a sad state of affairs, and the rest of them just burrow their way into your otherwise stable system and cause it to have poor behavior. And therefore as usual, the BIOS is the best way, if slowest, to tweak this bundle of parts
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
The board is clearly sensitive, which is a result of it being high strung. This is no different than any "first out" product I've ever bought. Most take 2 or 3 turns of the crank to get totally stable and forgiving. This one hated my OCZ platinum EL 2Gb kit memory, and it brought out the worst in one of the SLI based EVGA 7800 GT COs. These components worked in the Abit AN8 SLI (although not always great), but the MSI has ZERO tolerance for even the slightest pertubation from the memory. It was BSOD city until I removed both of these components by process of elimination that took probably 100 hours
Once I removed the bad components, and replaced the memory with Geil Ultra X 2x512 2-2-2-5, it worked great, ran Prime95 for 10 hours with no errors, and seems reasonably stable. I've RMA-d the bad 7800GT CO back to EVGA, and will report back on how SLI behaves when I get the new one (cross shipped of course, I haveno patience )
I also now need to replace the 2Gb RAM kit with something that the board will tolerate. I may RMA the 2Gb kit back to OCZ and try another one, but I dunno. I love OCZ but I have a bad feeling about this, even though they have great!!! support. I may try OCZ PC4000 or the RAM that Roger successfully used.
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth
Finally, I hope this board attracts more people, and therefore more tweakers that can figure out all these gadgets and settings. Everyone flocked to the Asus X16 SLI product, which is too bad, as this one needs lots o' folks to hack it up for us to figure out what is going on.
The on board Creative audio sounds lousy to my ears, and I will replace it with an Audigy 2ZS gamer that I had in the Abit. It just sounds better, but hopefully the drivers will not trash my newly stable system. Creative scares me, they scare me alot.
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
I hope this info is somewhat valuable to someone on this board. I will post details of all changes that I make, as others are doing, so we can at least take care of ourselves with this thing.

Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
first of all, i do think that all the settings in the BIOS have an explanation in the manual, even if it's a basic one. if that explanation doesn't tell you everything in detail, is because if you do need a detailed explanation of the settings, you probably shouldn't be messing around with those settings.
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth.
wanna tell me how did you get 1.95V on that mobo?
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
a 0.5V bump? again, you must be joking. maybe 0.05V.

K8N Diamond Plus

Beta BIOS for K8N Diamond Plus (MS-7220, PCB 1.0)
BIOS Sign-on message: MSI Project A7220NMS V1.34 04/23/07 (Date: 04/23/2007)
Attachment name: A7220NMSv134.zip
Make and ensure PC is stable before proceed. Remove any OC temporary if you have.
Use Beta or Modded BIOSes at own risk!
flash BIOS from USB key, by using our Tool(easy & safe way to flash):
MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool

Hello,
I just installed the bios 1.34 on my K8N Diamond Plus MB. Everything went ok with the flash USB utility program.
Has anyone had trouble Disabling PCI ... and/or SATA ... Speed spectrum?
Everytime I try to disable them the computer freezes and restarts.
I did unplug the power cable and cleared the cmos by pressing the clear cmos button on board and all that good stuff.
Granted it's a beta Bios but just wanted to know if anyone else having that problem.
Sorry for bring this old topic back up. Didn't know if I should start another topic or posted in here. So please be kind
Bluephoenix

CPU Usage 100%? K8N Diamond Plus

Never before have I witnessed the CPU being used at it's absolute maximum. It has been occuring regularily with my system. I noticed it first when my screen saver started getting jittery. This seems to occur most often about 1-2 minutes after windows finishes loading. It seems kind of odd to me that this occurs during typically idle system times. The memory usage also dramatically rises during these spikes, using ctrl+alt+delete I noticed svchost.exe to be the culprit of the memory usage atleast. The hard drive doesn't appear to be active when these events occur. Is this normal for this motherboard, or is this something that should be corrected?
I've always had 3 short beeps upon startup with this board, but it has never stalled the boot process. Anyone know what this means?
I've upgraded my board somewhat recently and carried over the CPU and memory from a older MSI model that used the same type. Could it be possible either or both are incompatible?
Also one, somewhat less important problem. First off I must say that the PS/2 power on feature is pretty cool. I used it with a wireless keyboard so I could turn on my PC from my living room HDTV (I have my comp wired through Y/Pr/Pb cables). Only problem is about one in every 4 or so shutdowns the system restarts immediatly when this feature is selected in the bios. Bios issue maybe?
System Info (and everything directly connected to it):
(pretty sure not all of this is relevant, but I figure it couldn't hurt)
MoBo: MSI K8N Diamond Plus
Memory: 1Gb (2x512 kit) Crucial PC3200 CT6464Z40B.C8TD (in slots 1 & 2)
Processor: Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester
GPU (only one): MSI NX7900GT-VT2D256E-HD (primary PCI-e)
Modem: SupraMax LE 56K Fax Modem (PCI)
HDD: WD Caviar 120Gb IDE (primary)
HDD: Maxtor 80Gb USB (external, non system)
3.5: Standard 3.5" floppy drive (a:)
5.25: Lite-on 48x CD burner (secondary slave)
5.25: Sony DVD rom (secondary master)
PS: Antec SmartPower 2.0 500W
Human Interface: Wired Logitech KB & Mouse through USB (for primary use)
Human Interface: Wireless Logitech KB & Mouse through PS/2 (for remote use, often turned off)
Primary Monitor: Viewsonic P70f 17" CRT hooked to DVI #1 via RGB adapter
Secondary Monitor: Sony KDL-V32XBR1 32" HDTV through 1080i Y/Pr/Pb adapter, stereo audio
Speakers: harman/kardon
Connected to internet via Cat5 network, phone modem sometimes used when primary internet is down
OS: Windows XP Pro w/ SP 2 installed
Thank's in advance to anyone that can help me as I'm pretty much stumped at this point.

Quote from: mdawgmike on 11-November-06, 11:25:18
Any other suggestions?
how about this:
Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 03-November-06, 23:14:30
get Process Explorer to determinate in details what make this CPU usage: http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.html
it has more detailed information than the built-in task manager.

K8N DIamond Plus- 4 sticks of memory problem

I have a new Opteron 180 with a K8N Diamond plus mb. I am thinking about getting another 2g of memory to run with my current 2g of 3200 memory to speed up Vista even more. I thought the new chips could run 4 sticks of memory at 400 with a command rate of 2t. I wanted to try to see if it would work so I pulled two 512 pc3200 sticks from my wifes computer and installed it. At boot up it clocked the memory to 333 (which I expected it to actually) and I got into the bios and set it to 400 with 2t command rate and everything else at default settings. All the memory is Kingston value ram. The computer randomly booted and I had lockups at 400, but at 333 it ran fine, but I still couldn't run the memory at 1t with 333. I am using bios 1.33 as the other bios's always set the HT bus wrong for me. Is this just a function of the motherboard or is the memory not compatable with each other? I thought the motherboard is irrevelant since the memory controller is on the cpu?
Thanks for your help,
Scott

The memorycontroller IS inside the CPU.
And some are lucky to get it stable booting at DDR400 with 4 sticks, some get crashes.
However, most have drop-backs to DDR333.
It's a CPU limitation when using unbuffered memory.
Buffered memory should be able to do it, however, I'm not quite sure as this is an S939 type CPU.
You could try something if you know somebody that has buffered memory.
Sometimes it helps if you lower the other timings.

2 'problems' with the K8N Diamond Plus

Hi there.
I just bought a K8N Diamond Plus and I'm having some troubles installing my system in conjunction to my Decklink Extreme PCI-E ( http://www.decklink.com/products/sd/ ).
Here's my configuration:
MSI K8N Diamond Plus
AMD64 X2 4400+
ROSEWILL 6600GT PCI-E VGA
Decklink Extreme PCI-E
2GB RAM ( 2 x 1gb) Kingston
OCZ-520 12U Modstream Power Supply
plus 6 HD's (7200rpm) and 1 DVD-+RW
The problem is, when I try to initialize the system with the Decklink, which it's a PCI-E 1x, it just don't boot. Neither putting the Decklink on the 1x, nor in the 4x slot and nor in the 16x.
The Decklink is working just fine in another system and doesn't seem to be a problem with this card.
I wondered if there's any limitation in the K8N Diamond Plus with working with the ROSEWILL 6600GT PCI-E VGA plus the Decklink.
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The other thig is that when I take off the Decklink, the system boots normaly but a message appears while booting: "Not enough space to copy PCI option ROM 00:13:00".
And I don't have a clue about what's going on.
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Please enlighten me with this questions if possible.
Thank you very much.
Greets.
Igor Bineli

Remove the battery away for 10 minutes, clear CMOS, start the system to load setup/optimized defauts in bios setup. After that, disable all onboard items in bios setup that you won't to use. Save and exit.
Plug ROSEWILL 6600GT PCI-E VGA card, and start your system to check if there is the error message. If there is, borrow another brand VGA card to do a test.
Besides, update your MB bios and driver version to the latest one.

K8N Diamond Plus, SLI and Creative X-Fi cards, anyone running similar?

Hi there!
I've got an ASUS A8N32-SLI board and my X-Fi card does not work with it, nor does it for many other people with similar setups.
See here:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=31426
and here:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=26289
I get crackling and popping noises when running most games, e.g. BF2, Fear, FarCry. When my 2x7800GTX's are in SLI mode it crackles loads, e.g. start far cry, click options, and listen. When i disable SLI mode it crackles less, but it still crackles. Many others encounter similar issues with their systems that are not identical but the symptoms are similar - high load = crackling/popping.
My question is:
Is anyone here sucessfully running any X-Fi card (music, fatality, elite pro, etc) with 2x video cards and NO crackling/popping in BF2, FEAR and FarCry?
I've already had a replacement X-Fi card from creative which their tech guy said "should" fix it, lol, I'm wondering wether to replace my A8N32-SLI with an K8N Diamond Plus to fix the problem. Besides, the MSI board has better PCI slot location and works with nTune too unlike the ASUS board.

What's going on guys.
I hate to see peep's having soooo many prob's and it sucks major BALLZ. The reason why I'm reposting is that I encountered a new issue. Not with my rig, but a friend's.
We pretty much have the same setup. Differences are he's using 2GB of Corsair DDR400 (which is picking up as DDR333 as well), different branded video cards (I'm running two EVGA 7800GT's in SLi, he's running two BFG 7800GT's in SLi), XFi Platinum (me, Fatality Edition) and he's got a dedicated ITE RAID PCI card for his RAID from his previous rig. Configured his BIOS pretty much the same way I have it running (he wanted to Overclock his AMD x2 4400+ to 2.6 GHz), but when it came to installing Windows we kept getting BSOD's during installation. Looked over things numerous times and it didn't make sense. We resetted the BIOS to default settings and Windows went through without a hitch. We tried OC'ing it one more time and Windows was fine. But, when he installed and ran Quake 4, either Windows or the game would just lock up. He booted back into the BIOS and put the CPU back at stock frequency of 2.2 GHz. Game ran flawlessly afterwards. That points at the processor. The only differences were we both have different stock fans and his CPU was manufactured in July '05. Mine in Sept '05. His rig also reports the infamous "Phantom" PCI modem as well.
Quake 4 is the only game he's got installed so far, but he reports everything is set to their highest qualities, including resolution. He said it runs great with no anomalies. He's going to install Dawn of War and Winter Assault later I know.
Me? I haven't run into any issues with any games either, including F.E.A.R. as Hydrasworld asked. Both of our sound cards are in the Communication PCI Slot of the motherboard. My take on the OC issue is since we're using different proc's from different wafers, maybe my chip had revisions in September that the July proc my friend has didn't. Also, his heatsink has one less copper pipe I noticed. I'll still drop by for help. Good luck to you all and the only other thing I can add is try using the latest drivers for each piece of hardware you've got.
LPB
P.S. If you can and you purchased a retail version of the processor, on one of the sides of the carton insert for the processor, a date should be printed. Maybe that can explain some issues. Once more, my proc was manufactured September 15th, 2005.

Someone tell me it aint so: K8N Diamond Plus nForce4

simple really work were buying a job lot of computer bits and pieces so i thought might as well bung a few things on for myself and take advantage of the discount, so a new mobo, memory, and graphics card ive got more than enough spares hdd, fans, dvd/cd drives
took all the stuff home tonight thought i would stick it altogether leave it installing with baby sitter and go pub. So build it and then look at it strangly thinking im missing something then it hits powersupply, bugger how could i forget the powersupply have no fear i'll just take it out of my other rig. so out it comes and i start connecting it all up then i come accross the 12v cpu connecter and i begin to search for a 4 pin connection on my shiny new mobo and what do i find a bloody 8pin one.
The mobo in question is MSI K8N Diamond Plus, nForce4 SLI X16, Socket-939
The power supply in question is found in my sig
My questions is am I screwed, will i have to wait till monday to order a new power supply then wait till it gets delivered or can i just ignore the little factor of 4pins into 8 doesnt fit slap it in switch on and not have the computer start blowing smoke at me. im suspecting a long wait till monday and a longer wait till delivery but stranger things have happened in the computer world

Quote from: thorpe on 17-June-06, 18:13:01
i'll be honest i was thinking your all bonkers
that's not a nice thing to say
Quote from: thorpe on 17-June-06, 18:13:01
got the wife to press the power on button
roflmao this is the best part. i think we should all make our wifes/girlfriends (or the male equivalents) to push the button after a heavy OC or after messing around with the system. that way you can blame it on them if something happens

New K8N diamond plus questions please help.

Hi all well i am new to this msi site and am thinking of buying the new MSI K8N Diamond plus motherboard, the problem i have is that i have been a fan of ASUS and have had there last 3 SLI motherboards of which i have not been happy with.
Well i am totaly into overclocking and have an Opteron 165, balistix ram, 600w Enermax PSU, 2x Gainward 6800gt's,
what i am looking for is a motherboard that does what i says it will do, yes the asus a8n32 was a great motherboard but has a limitation on the voltage if useing the new E4-E6 stepping cores of which would only give a max voltage of 1.58v of which the asus spec said 1.76v.
What i am asking you chaps is is this a great motherboard, can you play with all the coms settings without any limitation, or do you think that the DFI motherboard is better.
If you can let me have some info on this motherboard that would be great, as i can not seam to get any reply from MSI about some information.
what i am looking for is what is the max CPU voltage and is there any limitation on it for some chips.
what is the max voltage for the ram
what is the max voltage for the chipset.
any help on this would be great.

Quote from: Stick on 23-February-06, 17:46:08
there is no mobo that alows 4V for the memory. i think the DFI goes up to 3.4V and you can use a DDR Booster to get to 3.8V. the only mobo that is capable to pass 3.3V is the DFI since you can have the choice to select from which rail the memory will be powered (the 3.3V or the 5V). you don't have that option in any other mobo.
Hi thanks for the mail but i have just copied this from msi about this motherboard, see below.
1.Adjust CPU FSB Frequency:
You can adjust the desired "CPU FSB Frequency" by using "+,-" key. The default value of AMD Athlon™64 is 200MHz. The maximum value is 450MHz.
2.AMD Overclocking Configuration (CPU Ratio):
If the CPU is Athlon™64 FX series, the ratio range is from 4 to 25.
If the CPU is Athlon™64 series, the ratio should be set according to its model number. For example, the ratio range of 3000+ is from 4 to 9, and the 3200+ is from 4 to 10.
3.Adjust Extra CPU Voltage:
This is for adjusting CPU voltage while overclocking. Following the CPU default value, the maximum is 1.8V. The interval is 0.05V.
4.Adjust DDR Memory frequency:
The Memclock is the major part which has four different frequencies to match many kinds overclocking memory modules. The memory frequency settings includes DRAM/FSB=1/2, 2/3, 5/6, 1/1.
5.DDR Memory Voltage:
This is for adjusting memory voltage while overclocking. K8N Diamond Plus has a special design.We use jump to distinguish two level arrangement of voltage. In this way it can get maximum 4.1V for overclocking modules. As you can see the below pictures, the left one is the standard mode when jump hat is located at the top postion. The default value is 2.5V, and the maximum is 3.2V. The interval is 0.05V. As the right one, it is overclocking mode when jump hat is located at the under postion. The default value is 3.2V, and the maximum is 4.1V. The interval is 0.05V.
What i am asking is there any limitation on the cpu voltage like the asus a8n32 as this had a max voltage of 1.58v due to it having a limit put on it by recomendation of amd.

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TimeReaper,
The problems your are talking about are not uncommon with this MS-7220. The BIOS Clear Circuit physically has problems and that is not something they are going fix with a BIOS upgrade.
The BIOS Clear Circuit actually trashing the values stored in the CMOS by not doing a complete clearing of the CMOS is causing the problem. What leaves trash for parameters, for the BIOS to use when rebooting.
Let give you an example that fits your case. You can set the BIOS to turn the system on at any give time and date. So, if the trash in CMOS is in those parameters storage location. Therefore, whatever trash value gets stored in the locations, as a dated and time, will turn the computer on at that time. So, you could of had the computer come on in the meddle of the night two week later. Now, think of all the functions the BIOS have and how many weird things people are having and do not know why. There is one guy that is a regular on the Forum how has been fighting a problem I know is caused by trash in the BIOS CMOS, but Strick and I have ask him to do a good CMOS clearing and he just will not do it. I even wrote out in great deal the over night CMOS clear procedure I use. It is a pain in the ass, but some times, I have too use it. I just had to use it, upgraded V3.09 using short CMOS Clear and had no problem. Used the short procedure again when upgrading to V3.0A and everything when to hell, had to finally use the long overnight procedure and reinstall Windows to get computer to run right again.
NoBS, when your computer goes BOOO during the night just plain it o MSI.
Roger
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