K8N Diamond SLI...no more than 2070MHz?

Can anyone here shed light on why my new K8N Diamond will only run with a BUS Speed of 230 MHZ with my Venice (0517) 3000+?
230x9=2070Mhz...pretty poor.
I have 2.75v VDIMM
1.45v +3.3% Vcore
3x HT (16 up 16 down)
Spread spectrum is off
Cool & quiet is off
Dynamic O/c is off
The 1GB Corasir PC4400 Dual channel TwinX memory is at 1T 1:1 (200MHz) at 2.5-4-4-8 (230 Mhz is well below it's 275Mhz rating)...all auto configured.
I am running BIOS 3.4/1.4 (Both do the the same thing)
CPU Temp is 28 to 31°C, System Temp 26 to 29°C after running for an hour or so.
Anything more than 230 MHz HTT and the machine will not even post.
I have even changed the memory for a new set from the supplier...still behaves the same!
My machine specs are in my Sig at the bottom.
All I can think of is that the BIOS revision is holding the system back.
I was hoping to run the HTT BUS at 275 to get the max bandwidth for my RAM at 1T.
Anything between 2.4 and 2.7 Ghz would have been sweet!
I was careful to buy the best components for this new machine...even waited for Venice.
Any suggestions would be welcomed.
Oh, and when cold booted, the machine can take 3 or 4 attempts to post, but it's fine when warm booted/reset....hence my suspicions of the BIOS.
K6dude

Not got round to re-flashing the BIOS, but used ClockGen yesterday and got a stable 9x280=2520MHz at 1T with a 3x HTT multi for 6 hours, no crashes or hang-ups....all on stock voltages for RAM CPU and NB.
CPU TEMP Max got to 33°C, case TEMP to 30°C.
The BIOS is definitely not stable in itself.
I know it's a dodgy thing to do unless you have a BIOS Savior (not available in my country), but has anyone ever tried using the DFI Lanparty BIOS in an MSI Mobo?
Mostly same accessories apart from Creative sound, just maybe? After all an Nvidia "Award" based system should be uniform in most respects shouldn't it?
I once used a Toshiba BIOS in a Compaq to get extra settings on a laptop and it worked a treat. All I lost was the ability to "see" the LAN socket, but a small price to pay I think.
K6dude

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K8N Diamond SLI Creative Sound Blaster 24-bit

I have a problem with My MSI K8N diamond SLI 's integrated Creative SB 24-bit sound.
The sound is unaffected by the speaker configuration in control panel>sounds and audio devices>advanced.
For example when playing a 6 channel sound through my stereo speakers, the center channel does not get split between front channels. This means I can hear no voices as they are only on the center channel!
Can anyone with the K8N Neo4 platinum or diamond sli confirm this or does anyone know a solution?

If it is a grounding problem it would be within the PCB of the motherboard, the wiring there that either are not connected directly to ground. Or the problem that a ground plane / trace runs to close along a signal trace, causing induction of a signal to what should be a no-signal ground.
As you say, a lack of voltage could also be the problem, if the powerfeed to the chip is fed from the same source as the IDE (as it correlates with IDE activity). Any rapid drops in Voltage (voltage spikes) could result in just the phenomenon as we hear it and as I measured it. But it is less likely than a ground related problem. If there was such a load on the trace to deliver voltate to the chip and some other component, that the voltage would drop, we would see this on the motherboard. The amps would spike and we most likely would have seen a burned out trace.
So it is more likely that there is a matter if impure voltage feed to the circuit. But this is also much less probable than the ground issue. It is not uncommon to get ground issues in audio circuitry, especially in applications and environments where you have PCB traces in which high frequency signals travels close by. (a phenomenon not only contained to audio circuitry, as you probably have seen motherboards with traces run in circles, to get rid of similar problems).
I would not blame creative for this. I have had to deal with many soundcard issues in 10+ years as a computer tech. And I will leave it at that. I have much more to say about the quality of MSI products than the quality of any soundcard from any manufacturer, but that is also something that I will not rant about here.
If you do not get it to work with a stand alone sound card, I would check your PSU so that you do not have any bad or impure voltage there (measured with an oscilloscope, if you know what you should look for during load). I would also check so that the computer really are attached to a grounded outlet to reduce problems with interference. Third I would place the soundcard as far away from the GPU/s as possible (a good source for interference).
In my experience, only soundcards that has been faulty has produced similar sound issues as this motherboards onboard sound produce. Especially bad caps (do not even have to be the leaking kind) tend to induce this behaviour.
But the last part is something I have ruled out on this motherboards onboard audio. If there were bad caps there would be telltale spikes in the the measured signals and voltages. There are none (except for previously noted discreprancy in the output signal when accessing IDE).
I do not have a reciever, so I can not try the Spdif out, to see if that works as it should or not.
Also, I have not tried to remove the IDE devices and use only my SATA drives to see if that removes it problem (I guess it does, but that is a bad solution).

K8N Diamond Sli - DIMM Slot failure ..

i have 2x1Gb crucial ballistix tracer rams which i am am running only 1 in slot-1 (green closest to cpu) at the moment due to this problem
i think my purple slots have died..
inserting ram into both slots 1 & 2 cause beeping on start up... resetting cmos didnt help and adding voltage didnt either
i have tried moving to slots 3 & 4 with still no luck
1 stick works fine in slots 1 & 3 ...... Rams together in both 1 & 3 seem dont boot up but no beeps on inital start up
My rams have LED's so i can see if they start up properly....unfortunately [ for me ] anything with a slot 3 or 4 combination is out of the question
the Problem occurred when i added an external card reader into the usb slot..... i was thinking its a power problem but any help would be much appreciated
i am currently using 1.6 BIOS due to the fact that i am able to run 1T timing as i have tried a couple of different bios and tried to run 1T
i am thinking of a power inadequacy [ <---- lol not sure on spelling] as i have water cooling and many fans on a 500w power supply

i have an Ultra X-connect 500w modular psu
running 5x12cm fans
2x9.2cm fans
swiftech hi-flow mpc655 pump
2x200Gb Western digital SATA hard drives
1x74Gb raptor
2xpioneer 109 dvd burner
1xfloppy drive
leadtek 6600gt 128Mb video card [requires molex power]
MSI k8n diamond sli
all voltages are at stock
im not sure about the rails but specs are
+3.3VDC +5VDC +12VDC -12VDC -5VDC +5VSB
28A 30A 34A 0.8A 0.3A 2A .... are these the rails?
Could it be a BIOS issue?

MSI K8N Diamond - SLI-switchcard plastic piece broken

Hi.
I have MSI K8N Diamond that has SLI-switchcard. It is being held down with that nasty plastic piece. Now I can't make the plastic piece hold any longer. As soon as I let my finger off switchcard, that plastic piece pops out. Is there any better solution to hold down the card?

Quote from: dondon on 13-May-05, 04:47:01
Running it right now with no switch card and/or bridge... same result... apci post report doesnt report the second card?
I know the card is good as I have switched it to pcie1... does this mean the 2nd x16 slot is bad?
Help!
-don
Contacted Technical support they report the 2nd pcie slot is bad, this dang thing isnt two weeks old :!
-----Original Message-----
From: Dons Desk
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:25 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: 3 -- Customer Problem Description Form
Well..
I have the sli bridge on the board in sli mode... and only a card in pcie slot two...
I get what seems to be 1 long and 3 short beeps... no video..
Does this indicate pcie slot 2 bad, if so what do I do to return this board... its less than a two weeks old.
-don
-----Original Message-----
From: MSI Technical Support Team USA
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:16 PM
To: 'Dons Desk'
Subject: RE: 3 -- Customer Problem Description Form
Dear Customer,
Please have the SLI Bridge set for SLI Mode enable and retest with only the 1 video card into slot #2.
If this works then it indicate the PCI-E slot is fine and the SLI Bridges are the cause.
If it did not work at all then the PCI-E slot #2 has problem which the mb needs to be serviced:
http://www.msicomputer.com/support/CustomerS.asp
Sincerely,
Technical Support Division
MSI Computer Corp.
http://www.msicomputer.com

K8N Diamond - SLI woes - I am almost ready to scrap it ALL! DESPERATE!!

OK - story, brothers pc that I built for him almost a year ago, couple of months after the build, purchased another 6600GT to fill the second slot (both MSI 6600GTs) worked a treat, SLI, boom boom, no dramas. The card was removed from the system (borrowed) a couple of months later to fit to another system as a test card, and he was without it for a couple of months and just running the one 6600GT again. Since then the card has been returned to his system, but I can't for the life of me get the freaking SLI to work again
System-
MSI K8N Diamond
Athlon 3200
MSI 6600GT x 2
2 x 512mb PC3200 PQI
1 x WD SATA II 250GB
1 x LG 4167B DVDRW
TT Soprano + 400w TT PSU
This evening I have literally tried everything I could think of, started with driver cleaner and then reinstalled the 84.21 drivers I'd had working with it originally but no go.
Then installed the 91.31 drivers in vain knowing full well the result would be no different.
Removed both the cards, flipped the SLI config card and tried each card seperately thinking maybe one of them was dicky, nope.
Put them back with card two in card one's position and vice versa.
Cleared CMOS
Format C: reinstalled XP, thinking maybe coolbits had dicked something up or there was something yuk in the registry from when I originally removed the second card but HADN'T DISABLED the SLI multi GPU feature in the Nvidia control panel before I shut down and pulled it out.
SP first boot installed all drivers Nforce, sound, network between reboots and then 84.21 again, no joy.
Desperation sets in
So I'm looking at the piddly TT 400W psu wondering if maybe the couple of months 'work' it had done between the card being removed and then refitted could have been enough to wear it down to a point where it wasn't going to play the 'SLI game' anymore, yep, really clutching at straws by now.
Unplugged it all and fitted up an Antec 480W TruePower 2.0 I had sitting brand new in box for a rainy day, but alas.
So now I sit here typing this rant, staring across at the system to my right which is idling away and smiling at me while it displays the NVidia SLI config box with Nvidias little speel about adding a second graphics card for significant improvements in rendering technology with no option to enable SLI and I'm left thinking, what the hell do I do now arrrghhhhhhh

Yeah I'm 100% sure this is hardware as opposed to Windows, though it would be nice to know what the PCIE VGA Link Width should be reported as for both a single card and SLI... I've never flashed the BIOS on this, irrelevant considering the SLI WAS working all peachy.
Yeah the SLI switching card has definitely been reversed and re-reversed... I know because I take my time doing it cause I've seen people bend pins in teh slot by putting it in at the wrong angle. I've also had it out and back in a couple of times since to make sure that it wasn't a seating issue.
So my SLI switch is in the right way and my bridge is sitting on top of my two cards but it still won't play ball. Although I've turned the bridge around as was suggested I can't see that would make a difference because I reckon it's the same both ways, the bridge, not the switch that is.
I really don't want to have to RMA the damned thing, bahhhhhhhhhh this will be the second (seperate) Diamond I've had to send back to my wholesaler for RMA !!!

New K8N Diamond SLI or ?Plus

Hi,
Need you help here with a question ...
I am looking to buy a K8N Diamond and want to mount it in a Lian-Li PC-V1000 which means the MOBO has to be inverted (upside down) will this affect my cooling pipe??? Am I able to use it in that configuration?
Also anyone have any 'drawbacks' about this MOBO ?
Thanks in advance ... Jim

That's a head-scratcher
I would think that turning it upside down would cause the cooling medium (whatever's in that pipe) to flow AWAY from that heatsink. Since the whole thing's based on the principle of heated material rising because it becomes less dense...
But you're right in questioning it though. Wonder how many haven't bothered to think about that one.
Actually the company (ASUS too - they use a simliar design on their 2x16 mobo) hasn't even thought that through - if that's indeed that way it works, they ought to warn people not to invert the mobo!
BTW, jimbob - add "Plus" onto Diamond in the subject. The "old" Diamond isn't made that way...

K8N Diamond SLI has hidden BIOS options too

Just having a play with my new Diamond K8N SLI and found it has a set of hidden options in
the BIOS, much like the NEO/NEO2 boards had.
IDE HDD Block Mode
Mac Media Interface
NV/ATI Speedup
NV4x Memory Speedup %
NV4x Core Speedup %
Add NV4 Memory Clock
Add NV4 Core Clock
PCI Clock Auto Detect
Usual way to get into it... go into BIOS at boot up.
Press
Shift F2
Alt F3

Thanks for the info. How are things running? Have you done any benchs?

K8n Diamond SLi 7100 and OCZ PC4800 RAM

Hi everyone,
Does anyone know if the OCZ PC4800 DDR600 2.5-4-4-10 Dual Channel RAM works ok in this board?
I know it needs 2.85v which is achievable, but would like to know if it will work with these "picky" motherboards.
The OCZ spec says that it is tested at 2T and will work at 1T in some boards....does this include the Diamond board?
Failing that the next best would be Adata Vitesta PC4800 modules, but these need more volts and run at CAS3....and cannot get higher volts without a mod.
Any info would be great.
K6dude

Quote from: amt on 06-April-06, 11:11:34
Most boards I've used have dual channel on the bank 1 & 3 or 2 & 4 but my board has it on bank 1&2 or 3&4. Is this the usual setup for MSI? Seems a little strange, I was going to buy ram with heat spreaders but I don't think they will fit.
they fit. i have heatspreaders on mine and had no problems. also there are many users using corsairs, which have the bulkiest heatspreader around.

K8N Diamond (sli) tweaking options ?

I'm just wondering what's wrong with the diamond..... the few available reviews aren't agree on max vcore, vdimm, etc...
some reviews are stating a max 1.55 + 8.5% vcore.... others 1.85v max
some reviews are stating a max 3.0v vdimm, others 2.85....
I'll be moving from s754 to s939 soon..... maybe I'd better wait for the dfi nf4 sli this time...
I've just downloaded the user's manual and it's not "informative" enough on these bios options
any news about this???

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Originally posted by D_o_S
I'll tell you one thing... you don't have to wait. DFI is out! DFI nF4 SLI-DR....:
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_product_spec_details_r_us.jsp?PRODUCT_ID=3449&CATEGORY_TYPE=LP&SITE=US
VCORE 2.1V...
VDIMM 4V...
Nice, heh?
well it "should" be out late january in eastern Europe....
if the diamond doesn't give about 1.90 vcore and 3.0v vdimm....... i'll give up on MSI.
I just can't imagine such a high-end mobo with a lack of overcloking options.... even if the onboard soundblaster is a "giant step" for gamers....
therefore, according to t-break the "Diamond" doesn't support Raid 5 (and platinum does!)... but the "sample" board they've reviewed was slightly different from the one on MSI website, particularly the "active-mos 2" (w/ fan) that wasn't present on the board they've reviewed......
here is the "troublemaker" review:
review
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o CPU voltage: VID: 0,80V - 1,55V "step" 0,125V + 3-10% overvoltage
o DDR voltage: 2,5V - 3,0V "step" 0,05V
o FSB: "step" 1MHz up to 400MHz
o Chipset voltage: 1,5V to 1,85V "step" 0,5V

K8N Diamond SLi Machine Will Not Power Down

I have just put together the system below.
After some initial problems with the ram....ie it wouldn't post at all, I swapped it out for some Corsair xms 333 which worked ok. Once it posted, I installed the 2 sticks and its worked fine.
My problem though has been that sometimes, at startup it doesn't get past the windows xp introduction screenbefore it loops back to the post again. After 10 minutes of this, it boots into the os.
Then after closing windows, all the promts and messages come up and ends with a blank screen and no more hdd activity but everything remains spinning and the only way to shut down completely is to hold the power button in.
What am I missing please???

Quote from: TheBigMan on 09-July-05, 07:00:06
And proud of it.....
Oh and BTW you do know how to flash the BIOS don't you??
Be well....
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No.
What is the best way to flash? It isnt through windows is it because it can only find the 1.40 which i already have.

MSI K8N SLI Platinum Vs MSI K8N Diamond SLI

What do you guys think as the better motherboard?

Better check my post on Antec 2.0 ps not working on this forum as well as on the AMD forum here
http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=47162
It's pretty certain the new Antec PS won't work. Antec wrote me back confirming (all in the above posts)
I'll have to check the Diamond specs, as I had been told several times they were the European version of the Platinum, so now I don't know which one to get. I'm building a similar system as yours
Ron

MOVED: MSI K8N Diamond SLi boot problem

This topic has been moved to AMD64 nVidia Based board.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=96886.0

Quote from: Sealance on 14-May-06, 22:30:32
We had a unit do the same thing that you are talking about here. I found after two days of test that it was the Heatsink. It had the grease but it was not seated just right. When I redid the Heat sink the issue went away. I had to clean them both and then surface the Heatsink with 600 grt paper.
When I put it back together it worked fine.
I can't say that this is it, what is wrong with yours but it does and is doing the same things that we had going on with us.
You might check this and see. Because it would not boot no matter what we did. And it will heat up and trip out in a second.
And this is after the machine had run playing games for a week or so. I thinkt he Heat sink warped from the heat. I have never seen one do this before but I guess it could happen. Any way it fixed ours.
Do You mean the CPU heatsink, or GPU heatsink? -
By the way, who wants to guess if I was blessed or not - and if buying a new $150+ PSU really helped
Please, any more help would be great

K8N Diamond SLI:Wake on Lan?

I have looked throught the bios and manuals but can see anything relating to Wake on LAN. I would be surprised that this board doesnt have it? Does anyone know?
Cheers,
Also is i just me that is having stability problems with this mobo? It wont boot hardly any speeds from the bios but i have no trouble setting the same speeds form windows with clockgen. Im assuming this is a bios issue? New Bios Please MSI!!!!!!!

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Also is i just me that is having stability problems with this mobo? It wont boot hardly any speeds from the bios but i have no trouble setting the same speeds form windows with clockgen. Im assuming this is a bios issue? New Bios Please MSI!!!!!!!
What cpu are you running. If it's a Winnchester, it's a known problem. I'm sure MSI is working on it.

K8N Diamond SLI with FX-55 (San Diego) and 2 sets dual-channel RAM @ 400MHz ?

I currently run this with Patriot 2048MB DDR PC3200 DUAL KIT 1024MB x 2, 400Mhz, CL2-3-2-5 (PDC2G3200LLK). I plan to buy another kit like this and would like to run the system with 4GB at the same RAM-speed as with 2GB. Is this possible?

ap1978,
It comes down to how well the Memory Controller on your CPU can handle 4 sticks of RAM.
Btw, could you tell us what you will be running that needs 4Gb of RAM?
Take Care,
Richard

K8N Diamond SLI and K8N Diamond SLI PLUS

What is the main difference besides, Sound Card and HeatPipe Cooler
Thanks...Shutdown Guide

garfildd,
You also get two PCI-E Slots that will both run at 16X at the same time, even though no Vid Cards out there can use the extra Bandwidth.
Take Care,
Richard

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