K8N Master-2 FAR and 64 bit Core Center

Has anyone here had any success getting the Core Center to work with XP 64 bit with the 9620 board?? The 32 bit version that ships with the board will not run on 64 bit systems, and the 64 bit version brings up a message that "this application is not compatable with this motherboard" (or something to that effect.)
Is there any utility that can monitor the CPU and board temperatures in XP 64 bit? I use Photoshop CS2, which tends to push the system rather hard, and it'd be useful to keep track of whether the system is oveheating. So far I found a third party utility but there's no guarintee that it's reading the sensors correctly.
If both CPU's are staying 35-40 Celcius and the board is around 45, is that unusual? I've got fans out the wazoo, since this is a production machine and it just has to work.
Thanks in advance.

You might have a look here: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=84289.0

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K8N Master 2 Far and 2x Opteron 285 problems...

Hi, hopefully someone has encountered a similar problem or could offer some advice.
I run an older K8N that *does not have the C&Q fix*. In other words, this board will hard shut off when changing power states in Windows.
I was previously running 2x 256 with no problems. So this board has worked fine with 2 CPUs.
Using the latest official BIOS (1.43?) I am having some problems getting 2x 285s to run.
POST is fine, then Windows (I am running Vista 32bit) begins to load for about 5 seconds, then I get a hard shut down. I cannot tell what is causing the shut down. Strangely, I can enter Windows with all 4 cores no problem under safe mode.
I began to think it was an underpowered PSU, so I started stripping the PC down. No changes.
So I wonder, are there any known issues with the board and running two dual core CPUs? BTW, these CPUs are matched and work fine separately.
Thanks very much for any help at all.

Quote from: Bas on 07-November-07, 05:48:09
I would think so, as I using 270's and C&Q only works with 1.4B2.
Also 1.4B2 is the latest BIOS shown on the MSI pages.
BIOS 1.4B3 simply doesn have the C&Q code as far as I know, nor is it released (last time I checked)
I'm very skeptical because I don't think we are understanding each other. My board doesn't have the C&Q hardware fix. I feel as though this is causing the board to shut off. BTW, I did send my board into MSI for the fix, and they just sent it back with no work done. Very frustrating.
Anyway, I'll try a flash, but your download section isn't responding. Can you link the file AWDFLASH? Also, do I have to rename the BIOS file? I have to use floppy, I don't have any USB devices anyway. I have flashed many many times, but only twice on this motherboard. I was looking at the BIOS section in this forum, but couldn't find the answers.
Is there a simple command line you could share to quickly flash? Most importantly, do I have to rename the BIOS file? Thanks.

K8N Master-2 FAR and SATA problems

I have installed W2K Server at my PC with the board. But whatever I try, I can't get my SATA-drive to show up in Windows.
For the moment I'm booting from an old IBM Deskstar PATA-drive.
I have installed SP4 and reinstalled the nVIDIA RAID/SATA-drivers several times, also including an total reinstall of W2K Server.
Initially I tried with the SATA drive (a WD Raptor 74GB) as bootdisk (non-RAID) but as that doesn't worked I installed at an old 40 GB Deskstar I had. Therafter I have tried many combinations of: RAID enabled/disabled, RAID-drivers installed/Not installed, original drivers (from the MB-CD:s/diskette) and some downloaded nVIDIA drivers. No luck. >:(
The SATA-drive shows up OK in BIOS (at IDE Master 2 if RAID not enabled, not in any IDE definiton if RAID enabled) and shows status "Whealty" in the RAID-config/BIOS menu.
But doesn't show up as any disk in Windows. The closest I come with the RAID/JBOD setup was an "unknown" device in the IDE-tree in Dev.manager. When I tried to install the RAID-driver (MB-CD) for that device I get "No driver found" - always. When I try "Select from list" and select "nForce 4 Serial IDE driver" I get "this package is not compatible with the processortype".
Everything else seems to work, including network/Ethernet/LAN.
Other:
CPU: 1 x Opteron 246
PSU: Fortron Source Epsilon 600W, Blue Fan, Active PFC, ATX/EPS, SLI, 20/24pin
SATA drive: WD Raptor 74GB
IDE drive: IBM Deskstar 40GB
Graphic: Gainward GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3, PCI-Express
At boot shows: W9620NMS V1.1 061405
No other external peripherals/cards other than Monitor, mouse and keyboard.
TIA
Thomas

I have now succeded to install a driver (although I have other problems now, see below), but the drive still refuses to work in Windows. The drivers that came with the MB had only these .inf-files: nvatabus.inf and nvraid.inf. With one of the drivers I downloaded, NForce WHQL 6.86, there was an "nvata.inf" that worked.
I got an ok message from the install routine and rebooted. Still no cigar. In dev.manager there was (in the desc box for the nForce SATA controller in "IDE-controllers") a text about that there was not enough information returned from the device/HW for windows (driver ?) to get it to work. And a suggestion to install another driver or repair the HW.
(Something like that, I cant access the PC now as my PATA/BOOT-disk seems to begin to die as I now constantly get BSOD w. "KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED" in ntoskrnl.sys at boot. Or maybe the corruption is caused by my many tries to install a working driver.)
As I can run Spinrite against the disk (through a selfbooting diskette) it seems that there is no problem with the disk or the SATA-cable. (I run a surface analyze through the whole disk whithout any problems.)
I have seen at nforcershq.com's forum that there seems to be many problems with the nForce chipset and drivers for SATA-disks. Maybe that's what I have. But there is also many that have working examples with SATA-disks, especially WD-disks.
I'm thinking of buying a SATA controller card and install it in the PC instead, as someone else there did.
But that would be a pity as the SATA-functions was one of the major reasons I bought this MB and also that there is only one PCI-slot and not many PCIe-slots at the MB ! >:(

K8N MASTER 2 FAR .Loud machine..UPGRADE HEATSINK AND FANS??..HELP?

Hi All.
I'm a bit of a newbie in this area..but...
My machine is very loud and im not so sure of the best way to quiet it down.
I was wondering if anyone would/could recommend a good set of replacement heatsinks and fans for my K8N MASTER 2 FAR board.
I am especially trying to find fans that are quieter than the stock ones on the heatsink now.
Also, while we are at it could anyone recommend good, quiet case fans?
Any other suggestions for quietude??
Thanks..

Just rebuilt my machine after an mobo RMA..
Is there a particular setting called "smartfan"in the Bios?
or is it just a matter of setting the temp range?
Also..
After the rebuild, I noticed my CPU temps idle, were a bit erratic.
CPU 1 was showing 8C and CPU 2 was showing 45C
Very strange.
Could this be a heat-paste issue?
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K8N MASTER 2-FAR ..silent fans?

i have the K8N MASTER 2-FAR board with two dual-core opteron 275
the fans are default boxed msi-fans.. they are just unacceptably LOUD..
does anyone know of a good replacement..i bought the ultra-silent ZALMAN's (9500)
but apparently this MB not only doesnt fit two of those since it's an eATX crammed into an ATX layout (actually, i think you can make them fit if you can live with losing one of your PCIe-slots )
but also, the footings for the fans are completely non-standard so basically you cant use any common 3rd party fans.. (sigh..beginning to wish i'd bought that tyan now)
anyway.. does msi have a line of "better" fans that will actually fit on my MB or does anyone know of a 3rd party that works..
thanks
//s

Quote from: Bas on 26-October-06, 06:11:52
No way, 8x PCI-e is still 4 GB/sec.....
Your CPU's can't manage that....
1 PCI-e channel is 500MB/s, so 8 is 4GB/s
Don't foget that your memory is doing tops 6.4GB/s, so it can't even fill 16x, let alone 2 of them
There is no way you can fill 4GB/s at all, too much traffic is going over the bus.
Anyway, that's not the problem at all, the card can't do it, it doesn't even need that much speed to perform.
Do you know what funny, AGP 4x still can't be filled, and 8x is way overboard....
No way you notice anything between PCI-e 8x or 16x
Actually your information is incorrect. And My 6800gt will in fact bench slower at PCIe 8x than it did at 16x. With CPU2 running hot, I switched the SLi switch card around and put the 6800 in the 2nd PCIe slot and it ran at 8x as it should and my 3dmark05 was about 300pts lower on average
PCIe 16x is 4gb/s
PCIe 8x is 2gb/s
PCIe 1x is 250mb/s
Common Buses and their Max Bandwidth
PCI   132 MB/s
AGP 8X   2,100 MB/s
PCI Express 1x   250 MB/s
PCI Express 2x   500 MB/s
PCI Express 4x   1000 MB/s
PCI Express 8x   2000 MB/s
PCI Express 16x   4000 MB/s
IDE (ATA100)   100 MB/s
IDE (ATA133)   133 MB/s
SATA   150 MB/s
Gigabit Ethernet   125 MB/s
IEEE1394B [firewire]   100 MB/s

Cooler K8N Master 2-FAR

Greetings
I am planning to buy an air cooler for my opteron 250.
Wich mounting does the K8N Master 2-FAR uses? Is it a standard socket 940 mounting? Cause i read somewhere that a regular zalman who is compatible with 940 socket doesnt fit on this mainboard.
Does it use an intel mounting?
Maybe you can recommend me an air cooler on this mobo for my cpu
Plz help me
Greets
Geof

It uses an Intel Xeon socket 603 screw mounting.
Other Intel coolers could be compatible, but I don't know the types.
Look a bit further in this forum section, as this issue has been discussed a few times already.
For your info, all MSI S940 boards use this same mounting, so what you see for e.g. a K8T-Master board does also apply to yours when it comes to the cooler mounting.

K8N Master-2 FAR server 2003 x64 load problem

hi to all
i have K8N Master-2 FAR mobo and opt 250 cpus.i cant load server 2003 x64 os.it says clasical '' did not find any hdd'' i searched in forums and web but i couldnt find any floppy driver for server 2003 x 64 enterprise edt.can someone send me pls if you have? my e mail is [email protected]
thanks mert

What type of interface does your HD have? IDE or SATA? My K8T Master-2 did the same thing with XP Pro 64. Turns out that the K8T doesn't support SATA II only SATA I, not sure about the K8N. I had to set the jumper on my WD SATA hd to "Use 150mb transfer only" before the BIOS would recognize it. After I set the jumper, everything went smooth as glass...just wish I could take full advantage of my hd's SATA II potential speed. Hope this helps.

K8N Master 2 Far & Radeon 5770

Chaps,
I am trying to install a Radeon 5770 in this motherboard, I cannot get the motherboard to POST with the card installed. It seems from a few threads on the AMD forums that there is a compatibility issue with nForce4 (amongst others) and Radeon 5770 which may or may not be related to PCIE v1.0 vs PCIE V2.1, and/or 1GB memory on the card vs 512MB.
I am running the 1.42 BIOS which I have updated by installing the latest (5.60 or 6.60) nVidia RAID BIOS, by removing and re-inserting the correct chunk. nVidia RAID has worked flawlessly for me now for over a year. My Silicon IMage SATA card runs a non-raid base bios
I am using the RAID drive as the primary with WIndows 7 Professional 64bit and my system is perfectly stable. I keep it on for weeks hibernating it at night and almost only reboot after driver updates.
My previous card was a HD 4830 512MB which works fine.
Rest of system is 2x Opteron 248, Asektek Water Chill, Creative XFi Fatality, Sil3132 SATA 2 port addon card, Pioneer Blu-ray Reader, DVD writer, 2GB Kingston DDR800 registered memory, 4 x 320GB SATA drives in RAID.
PSU is a TAGAN 580-U12, a modular PSU supplying either 12V1 20A, 12V2 20A or 12V 35A.
I have tried all the PSU possibilities
1) Combined rails
2) Moving PCIe about
3) Connecting VGA 4 pin on motherboard (JPOWER_3)
4) Detaching all drives, and cards other than the graphics card.
and no it still won't boot.
I have verified benchmarks for Power showing that the total system draw for a 4830 and a 5770 system is about the same +/- 10W at idle and load, so at the least removing all the drives and cards should have added 60w to the system.
Looking around the net there was a simlar problem here and a new beta BIOS issued. Does anybody know, can they find out what changed and whether I can do something similar.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=133432.0
I appreciate its an old board but it still runs fine, and I don't have the money to go Quad Core/4GB at the moment.
Cheers
Rajiv

Well I can confirm that
a) My 5770 works
b) It has a fairly late (11/19) GPU BIOS and I can't find a later one
c) It has a windows experience index of 7.4! (cries in tea)
d) It will run fine from a 380W PSU (Seasonic S12), in fact this PSU is so old it does not have a PCIe connector (6 pin) so I had to dig out the 4 pin molex to 6 pin PCIE from the 4830 board.
so power wise
E5200, G31, 2 sticks DDR2 800, 2 SATA II 7200rpm, 2 PCI Cards (Tuners), 1 HD 5770 from 2 x 17A Rails (Max 324W = 27A) works
2 x Opteron 248, nForce 4 Professional, 2 sticks Registered ECC DDR2 800, 1 HD 5770 from a 1 x 35A (420W) does not work
Moreover, the 380W PSU has been on for about 2 years in the HTPC, whereas my Opteron system is only on when I'm in the office so lets say 4 hours a day on a nomal 248 working days a year for 2 years. This would imply the 580 has aged less.
While I cannot truly compare apples with apples, its not the PSU at fault here, but as said in other threads there seems to be some Init problem on the motherboard.
I am also not going to say that the 5770 running at full blast will provide a stable experience off the 380W supply, merely that it boots and runs Windows 7 Aero and MCE without any stress or excessive current. I have not qualification tested the set up with a GPU stress test and probably would not do so.
Unfortunately I cannot try inserting the nForce 4 motherboards second PCIe x16 slot as physically, my watercooling tubes exit the case where the connectors would sit to reach the external radiator, so it would mean a full drain and refill. I'd contemplate that if there was some common trend, but it seems too early yet, after all this thread appears in the first page on google already so there's not much help so far.
I am afraid I am out of things to try! I am also reluctant to upgrade just for the sake of HD 5770 my Opteron system is actually pretty decent although I would like to go to 4GB and quad core.
Cheers
Rajiv

Heatsinks for K8N Master-2 Far 7

I've been trying to quiet down this motherboard in my Antec 900 case. I've been looking for heatsinks to use for the multiple processors but I'm finding that in the way that they are required to be mounted you cant fit to of them side by side. Does anyone have experience with this board and/or know of some (quiet) heatsinks that will fit side by side in this dual core system.
Thanks in advance!

I thought I saw cool and quiet in the BIOS, but I guess I didn't. So basically my options are to RMA the board and hope they upgrade me to a newer board or fix it with this modification? I have BIOS 1.42 and i've noticed a cooldown (after BIOS update) by about 10 degrees give or take (unfortunately at the price of a speaker crackle through my m-audio fast track usb :(.
You're saying with this hardware modification it will run even cooler, lightening the load on the fans and thus quieting the pc down? Now that the weather has been hotter i see them speeding up from time to time but then calming back down. I'm sure it will get worse as it gets hotter out. So, if i were to RMA it and point them to this sticky, they would make this modification for me (for free)?
Thanks!

K8N Master-2 Far 7 - Windows64

Thanks for your help. I'll check it out. I'm not too sure about my soldering skills though. If anything I'm sure I can find a computer shop to do it for me. I'll repost if I have problems.

I've spent A LOT of my time working with this board and some of its earlier ancestors before I had gotten this one from MSI. I have, though gotten 64 bit versions of XP, Vista and Windows 7 but hit a lot of snags since upgrading on my the new BIOS version i upgraded to, so it's possible that the stability issues you were having could have been caused by some setting in the BIOS version I was using. I couldn't tell you what it was though.

MOVED: K8N MASTER 2-FAR ..silent fans?

This topic has been moved to Server/workstation.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=102030.0

Quote from: Bas on 26-October-06, 06:11:52
No way, 8x PCI-e is still 4 GB/sec.....
Your CPU's can't manage that....
1 PCI-e channel is 500MB/s, so 8 is 4GB/s
Don't foget that your memory is doing tops 6.4GB/s, so it can't even fill 16x, let alone 2 of them
There is no way you can fill 4GB/s at all, too much traffic is going over the bus.
Anyway, that's not the problem at all, the card can't do it, it doesn't even need that much speed to perform.
Do you know what funny, AGP 4x still can't be filled, and 8x is way overboard....
No way you notice anything between PCI-e 8x or 16x
Actually your information is incorrect. And My 6800gt will in fact bench slower at PCIe 8x than it did at 16x. With CPU2 running hot, I switched the SLi switch card around and put the 6800 in the 2nd PCIe slot and it ran at 8x as it should and my 3dmark05 was about 300pts lower on average
PCIe 16x is 4gb/s
PCIe 8x is 2gb/s
PCIe 1x is 250mb/s
Common Buses and their Max Bandwidth
PCI   132 MB/s
AGP 8X   2,100 MB/s
PCI Express 1x   250 MB/s
PCI Express 2x   500 MB/s
PCI Express 4x   1000 MB/s
PCI Express 8x   2000 MB/s
PCI Express 16x   4000 MB/s
IDE (ATA100)   100 MB/s
IDE (ATA133)   133 MB/s
SATA   150 MB/s
Gigabit Ethernet   125 MB/s
IEEE1394B [firewire]   100 MB/s

K8N Master 2 FAR COOLERS cant find !

Hello....i know this question is around old posts in this forum.....
I found lot replys....
but they are not updates.......
coolers are too old....for old processors.
cant find coolers for this motherboard...
Do you know if coolers for socket 775 fits?
http://www.coolermaster-europe.com/index.php?LT=uk&Language_s=15&url_place=product_list&p_class=1032
this http://www.ctechnet.com/hardware/Coolermaster/Cooler/coolermaster_e3w-nptxs-04.htm
probably fits.....but is not more available ...
on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Akasa-AK-380-2-Intel-Xeon-Nocona-Copper-Cooler-604-pin_W0QQitemZ300148571967QQihZ020QQcategoryZ67861QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
can hold temperature of DUAL 270 Opteron?
I can not find good coolers for this motherboard round the internet!!!

I have those CPU's and I use the MSI coolers, they work just fine.

K8N Master 2-Far Won't Post

OKay...here's the deal - as of late I upgraded my PC from an Antec to the new Thermaltake Armor case. Upon reinstalling everything (system was working 100% before transfer) my system won't boot. The only thing I get is about 1 sec of power then it does no more. I've tried the following to no avail and I'm wondering if any1 could possibly give me further direction....
-->removed MB from case to ensure no shorting from misplaced standoffs
-->removed power from HDs etc...with only cpu/heatsinks & fan/ram/video cards
-->used screwdriver to ensure case power switch isn't screwing with system
-->reset bios
-->reset cmos by removing battery for 15mins
and everything else from the basic troubleshooting "no post" guide.
What I have in my system and testing:
Enermax 660W EPS
http://www.enermax.com.tw/english/product_Display1.asp?PrID=37
^^^THX again Bas for recommending Enermax to me about 2yrs ago
dual AMD 248s with stock HS and fans
dual ASUS 7800GTX
2x512registered corasir memory
kingwin aquastar cooling for dual gpus
sli card is still in dual mode
using sli bridge
24pin / 8pin / 6pin video / kingwin 4pin all connected
system powers on for 1 sec...all fans spin...everything lights up..faint beep then OFF
any and all assistance is greatly appreciated

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