K8N Master2-FAR

Hi guys,N
I'm in kinda trouble. I bought this new socket 940 MSI motherboard K8N Master2-FAR.
The problem is the following. I dont know what power supplie to use for this type of motherboard. It requires 3 +12V connectors for JPWR1 (24pin), JJPWR2 (8pin) and JPWR3 (4pin).
Now most power supplies have only 2 12V cables , one for the 24pin and one for the 8pin. As its not enough this motherboard also requires a power supply that comes with a -5V pin supply (donno what that means).
For the moment i bought an Antec Neo HE500 watts power supply but he doesnt have a third cable (JWPR3) and doesnt support -5V pin supply. Antec replied to me that NONE of there new power supply supports this -5V pin supply
Can anyone plz help me? Maybe a list of compatible power supplies or the power supplie that MSI used to test this motherboard.
Greetz
Geoffrey

well ok,
lemme explain as clear as possible cause my english is not my native language :D.
1) In the manual of the msi mainboard is written that the power supply MUST COME with a -5V pin supply (Its very rare on a power supply cause even Antec, or coolermaster hasnt such a line). Now, i looked at the tested power supplys on that mainboard and I saw a ZIPPY power supply that comes with such a -5V pin supply. The -5V pin is located at the 20th pin of the 24pins connector.
Now this is the tricky part: MSI mainboard (8kN master 2far) Requires such a -5V BUT on the manual is a schedule of the 24pin connector on the mainboard itself. On that schedule is NOWHERE a -5V pin located. So why the hell do they require a power supply with a -5V pin supply when the 24pin connector doesnt have one. On the 20th pin is 3VSB located and NOT -5V as the zippy connector does.
Isnt this confusing...... .... how do i suppose the let my mainboard work properly when they give contradictionary information . I find that a 275€ mainboard may have a better manual .
Can anyone explain this? :D
Greetz Geoffrey

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Quote from: Djernis on 02-April-06, 18:15:14
I've got the system fans fixed now -Faulty wiring... my own fault
However the speed of the cpu fans are still running 3600-4000 when they are idle at about 36-37 C ???
like what i have said, u can use speedfan to control it..
@admin, soory for using msn stylo....

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I`m using 2 of this
http://www.alphacool.de/xt/product_info.php/products_id/348/cPath/5_18_66_184/cpu-kuehler-xeon/wak-cpu-alphacool-nexxxos-xp-bold-xeon-603-604.html
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Pic inside:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=22159&stc=1&d=1145233096
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Insane

K8N master2-far doesn't detect Areca 1220 raid controller

Today i purchased the last components for my system. Everything works perfectly except for my Areca 1220 8x pci-e raid controller. As i feared the controller is nowhere to be seen, not in the bios, not in windows. I already had bios version v1.10 but flashed the bios version on the msi site anyway. Nothing changed. On the msi site under "QVL" i see my Areca at the bottom of the list. Does that mean that this MB can work with this controller? What must i do to make it work? I think i have to see it at least in the bios!
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Quote from: Bas on 10-November-05, 20:30:00
Maybe you need to update the cards firmware.
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Q10150407 - Is there any socket 939 motherboards that work with your model ARC-1210 raid controller? In a SLI board I would use one 16x slot for Graphics card.
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Currently, DFI, Ausu, MSI and Gigabyte have BIOS to solve the problem. If you have problem in this kind of mainboard, please try to manufacture latest BIOS.
We have tested DFI Lanparty NF4 SLI & ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe, and Asus A8N-SLI Premium. It works very well with our firmware 1.38 and newest mainboard BIOS. Try to swap the graphic and our controller, if you find some warm boot problem in the Asus A8N-SLI Premium.
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Windows XP won't load on K8N Master2-FAR after BIOS Flash

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K8N Master2 FAR (v1.00 original worked, now v1.00, 1.10 and 1.26 current, don't work)
Single, Dual Core AMD Opteron 265
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Thanks,
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Quote from: maz on 10-March-06, 02:24:20
I downloaded the w9620nms.110 version BIOS from the MSI website and flashed the BIOS. Since that time, Windows XP Pro will not load successfully. I re-flashed to go back to the 1.00 version and even tried the 1.26 version I got from this site. Each time it still didn't work. I cleared the CMOS and retried. Still no good.
I reformatted the windows partition on the HDD (nVidia RAID stripe) and reinstalled windows. The installation seemed to go fine, but when the system tried to load Windows, it failed again. Just keeps re-booting.
Is there some setting in the BIOS that got changed in the flash that I'm missing that effects this? A setting that needs changing back (other than the SATA RAID which I've re-set and whish is recognized by windows and the BIOS).
Or, it is possible the RAID stripe was corrupted somehow?
The system worked for several months before the flash.
Any help on this is much appreciated!!
Running:
K8N Master2 FAR (v1.00 original worked, now v1.00, 1.10 and 1.26 current, don't work)
Single, Dual Core AMD Opteron 265
1x1GB Kingston kvr400d4r3a PC3200 RAM
Antec Neo HE 550 power supply
1x EVGA GeForce 7800GT (non-SLI enabled)
2x 250GB WD SATA-II HDD (nVidia RAID stripe) in two partitions
Sony DVD-RW
Windows XP Professional
Thanks,
Mark
i have the same problem.... also i trie with win2000 an don,t reboot but halt on

Dose K8N master2-FAR support a opteron 275?

i have two 246s. but i need more computing power.
Can i use 275s with K8N master2-FAR M/B?
my system info:
M/B : K8N master2-FAR
MEM : Samsung ECC 512X2X2
HDD : Raptor 74d x2 R0 - OS
OS : win2k sp4
PSU : Enermax EG851AS-VH (660W)

Yes, see here:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/server/svr/pro_svr_rcm.php?UID=613

MSI K8N Master2 FAR + 7800GTX problem

It doesn't work after install graphic driver.
I have tried few ver. of drivers(include the newest one)
Does anyone can tell me how to fix this issue?
My system spec.:
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MSI K8N Master2 FAR
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OCZ Powersteam 520W Power Supply Unit
Has Been switched to Non-SLi mode.

Quote from: Nexus++ on 04-November-05, 06:55:31
It doesn't work after install graphic driver.
I have tried few ver. of drivers(include the newest one)
Does anyone can tell me how to fix this issue?
My system spec.:
Dual AMD Opteron 246
MSI K8N Master2 FAR
2x Kingston 512MB DDR400 ECC+REG
Colorful 7800GTX
4x Hitachi 120GB 8M
OCZ Powersteam 520W Power Supply Unit
Has Been switched to Non-SLi mode.
I have one question for you. The motherboard has three power connectors. A 24 pin , a 8 pin and a 4 pin. Looking at your specs i see that you have the OCZ Powersteam 520W Power Supply Unit. I looked at a review of this PSU and it has the following connectors for this: 20+4 connector and a 4+4 connector. So the 24 pin and the 8 pin connectors are covered. All the pci-e connectors i see are 6 pins, also for this PSU. What did you do with the 4 pin connector close to the pci-e slot?

K8N Master2-FAR MS-9620 (v1.X) - Adequate PSU?

Hey all,
This is my first post. Been having some post/ display issues as well as continuous beeps that do not stop until i turn the PC off. All turns on and runs, but absolutely zero display to the monitor and continuous beeps. No pattern...just beeps and black screen.
After much research, resetting cards, resetting ram,using single stick, single graphics card, etc. (not touching CPUs yet) - i've understood the PSU could be faulty. (thanks to another post)
With this board K8N Master2-FAR MS-9620 (v1.X) the manual recommends a minimum 600w supply as well as a -5V pin supply (page 2-8 of the manual)
Any education and advice on which PSUs in the current market are compatible for this board is greatly appreciated.
What should i be looking for?
What on new egg tells me the PSU has a -5V pin supply?
Build was done in 2006, pooped out in 2012 - life happens, and i'm finally getting around to working on it. Original PSU was 550W Cooler Master 'RS-550-ACLY'
Thank you so much, and i do hope that the PSU is the issue and not the board.

computer worked no problem before, for a solid couple years - pretty mcuh sat for a while
broke it down to troubleshoot: 1 cpu, new 1000 watt psu, 1 ram stick, 1 graphics card.
Interchanged out each individually and tested after each swap out - same results. Tryed different ram in different slots.
Just keeps beeping.
I did get a new case. Would the case front panel connections cause issues? hmmm? but this was having same issues in first case (just didn't have a speaker connected to board to hear any beeps)
maybe i should disconnect the case connections and then try booting without it connected?
i'll try that, but at the same time - i've been hunting for another compatible motherboard to support the devices....with these being from 2005/2006 and technology advancing so fast - finding similar ATX board, with dual socket 940 opterons and SLI ready capability is a bear.

Overclocking the K8N Master2 FAR

Hi, I was wondering if anyone with the K8N Master 2 FAR board has had much success overclocking it.
I've checked through bios and either i'm blind or there isn't an option to lower the multiplier( Never OC an AMD 64).
I am at present running it at 215 x 13 but would love to get it higher.
Any help is appreciated.
Sean

Quote from: hanshot1st on 05-June-07, 05:19:26
I've owned this board since it was launched, and MSI never followed through with the promises of overclocking. No way to lower multiplier with 2 cpus.
Here I am looking for drivers for Vista, and downloads for this board have completely vanished from MSI global support. This is the first and last MSI board that I will own.
Balony, Vista is the problem, not this board or MSI.
Vista lacks a lot of drivers, if you want to complain about Vista, I suggest you write Billy Gates an email....as MS wants serious money for their Vista driver signing....this is not an MSI problem....M$ want more money....that's why Vista is lacking drivers.
It didn't vanish at all, this is a server/workstation board, so look at the right section at MSI, you will find it.
As for the OC part of this board, yes you can OC it a lot, no problem at all, will it bring you much? No it won't.
You have just 1 post here, so sorry, I don't take you very serious at all.

K8N Master2 FAR: Windows 2003 doesn't recognise install to RAID SATA

Summary for those that cant be bothered reading:
PCI slot: 1 gfx card:
SATA 1+2: WD HD.
Raid 1 used.
-Trying to install Windows 2003 small business server premium.
-Installed SATA drivers (both from floppy).
- Generally windows will stop at 'Setup is starting windows'
It has gone past that point and gets to the drive select/install screen BUT:
-- Using the drivers from the floppy disc, the RAID1 array shows up, but shows boths drives. From my experience it should just show one drive, the array. Both bus/ID were the same and it said they were on nvatabus.
-- Without using the drivers from the floppy it shows both drives, same bus/ID but on atapi.
Tried installing windows but it won't boot after install. No matter what I choose to boot from (Tried NVida array first but I got desperate and tried booting from every other device using ESC @ boot).
Mainboard faulty?
END SUMMARY
K my spec should be in my profile sig so thats sorted.
The problem I'm having is driving me insane(er). The two WD sata drives are plugged into sata1/sata2. raid is enabled in the bios and on the sata channels. Made the drives mirrored using RAID 1. Ok thats all ok so far.
Start the windows 2003 small business server premium and press f6 so it asks for the raid drivers. Select both the raid driver and nvidia storage controller drivers (I've tried just choosing only 1 as well).
Ok so after this it carries on until it gets to "Setup is starting windows" (something like that). Generally at this point it will hang. I've left it for a while incase for some weird reason its going slow - nothing happens. So I read the MS KB and it said to disable and remove everything not needed. Well there wasn't anything to remove physically from the board so I tried disabling bios stuff. Disabled: lan/audio/1394/serial/parallel i think that was all. So I tried again.
Same thing happens. Try a few more times, using both drivers on the floppy disk like before. Strangely enough once it worked. HMMM. Next problem is when it got to the drive select screen, there were two drives there . From previous experience raided drives show up as one. Both drives were though on the same ID and Bus and on nvatabus...(something...) . So I thought, maybe thats just the way this board works.
Installed windows fine, reboot and won't boot. The raid array is marked to boot. Tried manually choosing boot device with ESC. Tried reinstalling again not using the floppy raid drivers and it picks up both drives, this time same id/bus but on atapi, not prefixed with nv.
Why is this such a problem? I just want to raid 1 two drives and install windows to them!

Thats the whole point. The two drives were set as raid1 in the raid bios, as described in the manual. The raid1 array was described as 'healthy'. Windows install kept seeing the 'array' as two seperate drives. I've used raid many times before and never had this.

K8N Master2-FAR Cool n' Quiet BIOS settings

Am I missing something? the cool and quiet BIOS settings do not appear in my BIOS cell menu. The user manual shows them there, but they are not in my BIOS setup? running v1.30
thanks

My K8N had it.
Look here:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=95822.msg726354#msg726354

K8N Master2-FAR with two opteron 275 it works?

sorry by my ingles, I use google to translate

It should work, check the QVL list to be sure...

K8N Master2-FAR - Noisy fans

Hello; I've looked through some of the threads on here regarding replacing heatsinks, and I don't want to do that if I can help it (although a little bit of TIM Cleaner and some AS5 might be a good idea), but I was wondering whether anyone had had any experience of rippling and replacing the actual fans on the CPU heatsinks with something a little quieter than the hovercraft spares that they're supplied with?

Well I'm going to cut a wire on them and put a 39Ohm 1Watt resistor in between, then they run real quiet.
I have tested it, but not yet on the CPU's themselves.
However, smartfan needs to be turned off with the resistor
Opties don't get very hot these days, so the fan speed can go down a whole lot.
Smartfan does do a lot, but not enough for my taste.

K8N Master2-FAR Retention

I been lookin at the retention clips on the board of lately and notice they sure do look the same as the old S478 Retention Clip I don;t have any S478 HEatsink/Fan Kits left in my stock to compare but they sure do look the same or close anyways

This question has been answrered many times in here.
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