K8N Neo 2 platinum freezes. NB Fan problem ?

Hi all,
I've had a Neo 2 platinum for almost 3 years now, which was running absolutely good.
Then, I began to have random freezes on the Windows desktop (not with games).
I thought I ought to clean up a bit the beast's inside as dust could be the problem.
After cleanup, same crashes, but even more and more often, to the point last WE, it was
freezing at BIOS level, before booting. Now it seems I can no longer boot (not even the startup
beep of the mobo is heard !). Only the CPU and case fans spin, nothing more ....
My question: since I've noticed the NB fan was blocked (probably died like the countless others), could it be because of that I can no longer boot, even with a cold system ?
I'm trying to guess what part I need to replace, PSU, fan, or mobo ...
Setup: AMD64 dual-core 3800+
K8N Neo 2 plat.
2 GB of RAM (no recall of the mark)
Antec 450W PSU
NVIDIA 7800 GT GPU

Quote from: Fredrik on 02-December-08, 05:34:35
With the NB fan having a problem I wonder if the processor fan might be dusty.
450W Antec sounds like one that came with the case. Is that so?
Well, the CPU fan was dusty, before I cleaned it, yes. Now, it's clean, and is definitely not the problem.
The 450W PSU was with the Antec case, yes. I was kinda suspecting it to be the problem, since it decided to die after just below one year of the system's life (it probably grew fed up of all the power cuts we have in the winter, here, thus I RMAed it and put an MGE UPS), but I think I can rule it out now. All equipment are just booting OK, until disk query is issued. That + the dead fan makes the cause for me ...

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