K8N Neo 4. Likes to lock up when moved

Have a very nice and stable Neo4 box, but about 50% of the time , just moving the case causes to system to freeze.
I would have to guess its some kind of short, but how to verify or fix it?
Has anyone else seen this kind of thing and figured out a fix?

Reseat the memory modules .
Make sure they go all the way down into their dimm sockets in the motherboard .
Or there could be another lousy connection of the gfx card or some drives thin sata cable .

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This article says that the K8N Neo has SATA frequency locking problems when overclocking:
http://www.nforcershq.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1801
First of all, is this true?
And if it is true, do we have a BIOS that fixed this problem.
My drives are PATA right now so I currently don't have any problems but I plan to get SATA drives/adapters soon.
I'm running 240 HTT (1:1) so not having the SATA frequency locked could be an issue.

Well, I´m running HTT 230 now, and I´m always using my Raptor as OS disk. Haven´t had any problems yet (with my disk). It´s connected to s-ata_1. Haven´t tried the other ones.
But sometimes when I boot (200 or 230HTT, doesn´t matter) I get artifacts on the boot screen and in Windows, so I have to restart.
Could it be a partially working AGP-lock? It seems as at works most of the time, but sometimes not... Strange... AGP is set to 66-67MHz

My ipad4 locks up when moving outside a wifi coverage

My ipad4 locks up when i move outside a wifi coverage. Then I have to do the two finger salute to wake it back up. Any suggestions?

Just fixed this, had exact same issue.
I had my camera connected to the crappy wifi app thing then turned off with it still going and it think it got stuck on the wifi settings.
Just plug in, delete the wifi settings under misc (there like 3 folders on root dir) then turn on wifi, it will wait 30~ seconds then reinsitialise
now i can get into settings and the whole menu
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K8N Neo Diamond plus..new bios when!!!!!!!!

Ok come now Msi knows abou the problems with this board..But they have yet to come out with anything bios wise...I would have thought by now we would have seen a beta or something....
If it doesnt come soon I will be switching to the Asus...

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 11-February-06, 08:46:06
Dude this is (Note forum title( a user to user forum. There are no MSI techs or staff here to read the menace of going to Asus in your post.
LOL Relax as MSI tests their bios's inhouse before just tossing them out. MSI is also very good about getting on changes for new boards as quick as they can. However they may also need to know what you need a Bios to fix. So you should use your mouse and click the contact links at the top of the forum that you did not even read the title of and let them know what you need.
The way I see tyhis is that you did not let us know what the problem is that you wanted a Bios to fix nor offered any specs nor asked for a solution to anything. So as far as anyone here knows you don't even have a problem.
Kinda dumb huh? LOL Pr do you work for Asus and just want to come here and cause trouble??? LMAO
What the hell man...Like you havint seen all the issues all ready in this forum..Ive read this forum from top to bottom..With users having Phantom PCI MODEM/Or when raid is enabled a error message saying something about Bios Rom...All this has to do with crappy bios upon release. And if MSI did test these bios in house..Then they need new testing equipment...And as far as me being dumb I think your pretty stupid yourself for not knowing all the bios issues with this board..And trying to play it off just MSI always has...hell it took someone else to write a bios for the MSI NEO2 to get it running better...
Oh and lets add that the dam flppy they send with the board for the raid doesnt even work on the nvidia raid..I had to use the one that i had left over from a ASUS board HAHAHAHAHAHAHA imagine that...

K8n neo fsr overclocking results

the bios version is as follows v1.4
system specs
amd 2800+(clawhammer)
kingston 3200 512mb single stick(value)
wd800 hd
inno3d 6600gt
normal psu
bios settings
these r all the available options any one of u notice my bios missing settings.
DRAM Config
max memclock=166
1t/2t mem timing=auto
tcl=auto
trcd=auto
tras=auto
trp=auto
back to cell menu
High performance mode=manual
Aggressive timing=disabled
Dynamic OC= disabled
Spread spectrum=disabled
HTT frequency options uptil 4x(while the manual states uotil 5x)=set at 3x
adjust cpu ratio=9(max multiplier for the cpu i presume)
Adjust cpu fsb frequency=245
adjust agp frequency=67
CPU voltage set to 1.6v
cpu z shows the ram runnign at 200.5mhz
while the bios show ram runnign at 204 mhz.
who to believe. hevent tried memtest but been tryign 3dmark05 continously.
now my question is as follows i have a frnd who has overclocked a 2800 clawhammer upto 2400mhz stable on a asus k8v-x mobo i was amazed to see the options in the bios for that mobo. its a el cheapo board widout pci agp locks and yet i spent a lot more on this mobo just becuz i thought the pci/agp locks wud come in handy for overclockign seems i cant even exceed past 245. the ram being used in his pc is also the same as mine i can confirm him running at 166mhz, and prolly if i saw correctly there was some bus he was running on 600mhz.
rite now i wanna know wat r the best settings which wud get me a good overclock widout sacrificing performance which i thinkw ud be common after lowering memroy timings and crap.
last question what to spend on
512mb stick of ram that cud allow me to overclock or simple cooling which cud let me go far.
at 4x htt the after saving settings at bios the system wudnt go into bios back wen it tried to restart after around 5 mins i cud restart the system.
im bout to install the 1.7v bios
or maybe try the 1.52 beta dont know where to find it though.
here r some reviews by some forum
MSI K8N Neo Platinum [AGP/PCI Lock, FID 4x-Max, HTT Adjust, VCore, VDimm, LDT; Tested with Athlon 64 Mobile 1.4v] The board has some SERIOUS quality issues (there are too many problems to list but users are seeing everything from stability issues at stock, inability to get voltage to stay above 1.45v, only parttime working RAM divisors, flakey AGP/PCI locks, to multiplier and voltage settings that won't 'stick') Unfortunately, this is nothing new with MSI boards. What that means is that you may get a board that works fine but it is *much* more likely that you will get a board that is a big POS which will cause you to waste endless hours pulling out your hair trying (and failing) to get the board to work correctly. Until further notice, this motherboard is NOT a good choice to use with mobiles (or any other CPU for that matter.) The motherboard will boot with the shipping BIOS but the CPU will lock down to a 4x multiplier (800Mhz) To correct this one needs to update to the BETA bios 1.52 Please take note that the backplate is *glued* on, which means it's tough to get off and you need to get it off. Using acetone or heating the adhesive up with a hairdryer should allow the backplate to be easily removed. Be careful and don't use sharp objects as they may damage the board.
seems like i made the wrongest of choices for my new system, my first mistake 5 yrs ago was to buy a ca810e mobo intel. my second mistake for my second system was this after 5 yrs seems like i ahvent learned to make a decent system.
ADVICES ADVICES ADVICES. am i running the hypertransport too slow rite now.? ny views anything wud be appreciated...
cpu running at 2205*9 at 38c degrees on stock cooling.

well i dont know much but im pretty sure u should set memory timing to 1t

My photos don't rotate anymore when I flip my phone and I notice a new icon symbol in the upper right corner of the screen that looks like a lock with a 3/4 circle going around it. Any ideas???

My photos don't rotate anymore when I flip my phone and I notice a new icon in the upper right corner that looks like a lock with a 3/4 circle going around it.
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I have downloaded firefox and it always is locking up when I am in the middle of something, acts like I am not connected to the internet and then I have to restart my computer how can I retify this?

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Does MSI K8N NEO 4 have (agp)/PCI lock?

hi. yeah, Does MSI K8N NEO 4 have (agp)/PCI lock? I saw only the PCI-E lock (100MHz)

Quote from: gpalmer on 03-November-05, 21:18:07
the neo4 does not have AGP.
No, I know it. "( )"
Quote from: Richard on 03-November-05, 21:29:27
Paradis,
The PCI, IDE and SATA are locked.
Take Care,
Richard
okej, thank you. I feel me safe now :D

K8N Neo 2 Platinum Problem!When rising to 210fsb restarting,etc...

I have a big problem which makes me angry...Actually there exist some problems,but I only write two of them...Firstly,when i try to overclock as rising fsb to only 210, system restarts and resarts again and again;only when I return to default value,system works.It is just a one example to show us that mobo does not work well.Secondly,about the temperature,there is a problem.System sometimes opens with 37degree,sometimes with 43 degree;sometimes rises to 55 and 62,sometimes stops at 47-48.These are not only from idle temperature but also load.Which makes me angry,temperature is 55 degree at idle;and sometimes at load it is 49 etc..I tried my CPU and fan,ram modules etc.,on MSI Neo 4 SLI mobo,and there didnot happen any problem,involving these two.So,I think they are not normal,what should I do?
My system:AMD 64 939 3200+ CPU,MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum,MSI NX6800 VGA,2*512 ddr400 Hynix d43 ram,80GB Seagate SATA etc...

I did it;that is to say i know that i have to lower HT and i did.In detail,ram timings were 3-4-4-6 and 1T.I disabled D.O.T,Spread spectrum,Agrassive timings,high performance mode was manuel etc..So everything was suitable for o\c.Also I disabled Sata1-2,and connected to Sata 3 port.AGP frequency was 67,cool and quiet was disabled.HT was 4,I adjusted CPU ratio to *10 and I rised CPU frequency only to 210.So,everything was as which had to be,but system restarting again and again,works only if i return to 200 fsb...I am sure that the problem is arisng from mobo,because I tested my configuration on different systems.For example,I tried my CPU and ram modules on MSI K8N Neo 4 SLI mobo and there did not happen any problem,I was able to rich 2500mhz with HT4,250fsb*10.Temperature was accurate also.What can I do?If
I cannot o\c my system it is unsense to have this configuration and this mobo.I think,if i bring my mobo to service of MSI,they will say it is not our problem,as you know they don't accept o\c problems.I also think that they have to explain something to me as their D.O.T. technology supposed to work at %11 o\c.Please,someone say something to me and give me an advice.

MSI K8N Neo Platinum ... when???

Based off the news on the front page MSI is showing off the new MSI K8N Neo a 754 solution? What is the e.t.a. for this board and suggested price? I am planning on building a A64 setup by the end of this month, begining of next month. I am hoping this board will be out by then? Any ideas?

thanks for reposting wonkka, i was looking all over for it ,
(in another thread to post here) but your 23000 threads are a bit much to skim...lol
I think will be a good improvement for older boards but not worth it from a neofizzer and sporty new colored pcb.
If it just came out when i was upgrading a few months ago......what you buy now is out of date tommorow.......................story of the computer world

Official, non-beta K8N Neo Platinum BIOS when?

Hi,
I see a lot of beta 1.5x BIOS releases for K8N Neo Platinum. Anybody know when the official release will come from MSI???
Thanks.

Quote
Originally posted by darthhen
Yeah I guess. It's hard to tell sometimes. I don't have the time to test out all the different beta bioses. I just want to update to the stable one.
yes but its also wrong to assume tha beta BIOS are unstable.in fact most these days are rock stable hence the fact they become official.

300gb doesn't work on K8n neo platinum

Hi guys! This is my first post ever so please bear with me if it confuses the hell out of everybody
Here's my setup:
Antec 480w
3400+ amd64 1mb L2 cache 754 pin
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
1gb Crucial Ballistix pc3200
2 x 36gb WD raptors
1 200gb IDE seagate 7200rpm 8mb buffer
ATI 256mb 9800xt
pioneer dual layer dvd-108
lite-on CDR
Floppy drive
Ok here's the problem. Everything on the top works fine! My computer has been on for 2 months straight without nothing happening. Now when i finally turned it off, I decided to add the new 300gb maxtor SATA 16mb buffer drives. After I did that, and formated it, it worked for a time. Most of the time after i restart or turn off my computer, windows does not post; it locks up to that screen that says "Windows XP" with the bar scrolling on the bottom of it. Some times it just sticks forever at the beginning bios post with the drives being dectected.
My raptors are hooked up on raid 0 on SATA 3 and 4. My optical drives are on IDE-1. My seagate 200gb os on IDE-0. The moment i added the 300gb maxtor SATA to SATA port 1, that is when i started having the problems.
I checked to make sure everything is right:
1. Check boot prioritys.
2. Check jumpers.
3. Updated bios, even the beta-bios.
4. I made sure all the settings are correct. I even cleared CMOS to do it all over again just to make sure.
5. Installed latest drivers and SP 2 (oh i'm running windows XP sp2 by the way)
I was thinking that SATA 1-2 ports are shared with port IDE-0. If that is true, then that's probably why the computer is getting a confused. I don't know, i talked to my friends and they said they had all the SATA ports used up and also the IDE ports. I'm not sure, sometimes i can get windows to post but with a couple of restarts (54 restarts to be exact :P ) Also if it does post, windows freezes sometimes when i try to add new stuff to the 300gb.
I think that's everything. I hope somebody could help me because i'm about to throw this HD out the window, jump on it until i can't breath anymore, then light a cigarette with a happy smile on my face...

Quote from: sauria on 14-March-05, 11:32:18
Yeah, just doesn't like the 16M cache drive
I'll receive a maxtor 200gb 16mb sata (6B200S0) by the beginning of the week so I'll probably be working on the problem too

K8N Neo CPU buzzing after latest bios update

I'm running the K8N Neo Platnum Edition with an Athlon64 3400+ and have been thrilled with the performance and the quiet nature of the system... until now. I upgraded the bios to 1.5 and now I hear an annoying buzz coming from somewhere near the CPU. I have stopped all of the fans and touched all of the coils around the CPU and nothing seems to diminish the sound.
I have found two ways to alter the sound. 1) if I scroll the mouse wheel when viewing a web page it goes completely silent. 2) setting the FSB to about 215... but then my computer locks up soon thereafter. The sound starts as soon as the first XP loading screen appears. I've updated the video drivers (ATI Radeon 9600) for what that's worth.
It's pretty much driving me crazy and I'd really like my old bios and silent computer back. Anybody have any thoughts or is anyone experiencing this too?
-Mike
(P.S. I've posted this in another forum relating to the bios in general)

Exactly same problem here too.
No matter which bios i use, the high pitch noise is coming from the mofset area (coils).
The sound starts on bootlogo here as well. What i found interesting is, that there's no buzz in DOS !
It starts when winXP is loading drivers. WEIRD.
I tried to nail-vanish the coils onf first board - didnt help. Vanish fried after few days.
I RMA'd the board for other reason (dead mobo) and i got new one.
But the problem still presist.
I used clockgen to downgrade the CPU to 1V and like 700mhz. Absolutely no buzz. That means higher HTT + higher voltage = louder noise. Try on your own.
I'm running 8,5*308(2618mhz) @ 1.65v. Rock stable but the noise is driving me crazy.
The sound is coming from the mofset area (different source tho i guess) also in 3D. It's not the graphics card...
It's not PSU either. I tried like 7 of them.
This board is great, i love my overclock, but it just do high pitch noise.
I paid like 300USD for great quiet non-audible cooling, my PC doesnt do any noise. The only thing i hear is whining motherboard.

K8N Neo FSR Bios overclocking functions help needed

Hi all, I am a small pc builder for the family and i have found some problems with the bios of my uncles K8N neo FSR which I recommended for him. Basically it wouldn't seem to overclock with the 'Dynamic Overclocking' function on bios v1.7 but did manually by adjusting FSB incrementally (ie from 200 to 205 Mhz). When I questioned this before someone had mentioned that it could be ok to run like this. However I have since updated the bios to v1.9 and even v2.1 as they became available but now neither seem to overclock manually nor using 'Dynamic overclocking'
Firstly though, can someone clear up my first conception; To test if the Dynamic Overclocking function is working can I set it to a higher setting (ie.'Commander'), save and exit bios (restarting) ---> go straight back into bios ----> go straight back into Cell Menu and check 'Current frequency of cpu' has changed?
I only ask this as if this is the case then my Dynamic Overclocking function hasn't worked with three bios' and I wont bother with anything until I RMA the board lol, as I have never been able to change the frequency of my cpu at boot/bios stage with the dynamic overclocking function.
Can anyone help me?

Hi Stu, yesterday I think i found out what u mean lol. I studied a 'Sticky' ? about overclocking A64s and found some interesting stuff. Apparently overclocking the HTT is dangerous, and A64s are always at least half locked. Now with this in mind Ive been wondering if there are interlocks built into my mainboard stopping me from using the 'CPU Overclock' function to overclock my pc manually from the set 200Mhz while my HTT is still set at 4x. -I say this as the HTT on my system is 800Mhz for a socket754 Sempron 3000Bx, thus overclocking this would increase my HTT above the 800Mhz threashold (I think) lol. All sounds complex but I think Ive figured it out as Im following instructions from the sticky to lower my HTT multiplier before increasing my cpu overclock. Its hard as my mainboard has Nforce3 chipset which has different ways of overclocking to every other board lol. So far I have managed to increase the overclock, but only when the HTT multiplier is lowered to 3x. I have also lowered my cpu multiplier though, and thus am trying to figure out where my 1810Mhz clock speed has changed to 1630 lol. Will try again now. I want to raise the clock speed above 1810, keeping the HTT lower than 800 and leaving the memory alone at 400DDR lol. Im hoping the memory is seperate as it seems to be on this chipset.

K8N Neo BIOS FSB OC VERY limited

Well I have seen this on several message boards, the Viperlair review here:Viperlair review and observed it myself. The OC from the BIOS on my system will not boot 140> using any multiplier/MEM/HT/Vcore combination. My Basic system specs:
Vapochill PE and Alpha PAL8150
K8N Neo
A64 3000
Tried 2x512, 2x256, 1x512 and 1x256 PC4200
Pelt Cooled 9800 Pro
Using clockgen I can get 10x245 at stock Vcore even on air cooling so I know the CPU should be able to do better with sub 0 cooling in a Vapo case. I can also lower the multiplier and get to 280>FSB using clockgen. It's going to be a real shame if there is no way around this BIOS limitation. A few other glitches I hope they fix:
1) The temps are still reading way off. My P4C/4Ghz 1.65v idled at -2~0c and hit 15~17c load. The A64 3000 at idle reports 8c and goes no lower no matter what the Vapochill is cranked up to. Load temps are 15~17c. This has been reported on many of the Nforce 3 MOBO's. None of the MOBO manufacturers seems able/willing to issue a BIOS fix for this. For that matter none of them seem to be willing to admit there is a problem at all.
2) Do not use the Forceware IDE SW. I am using the latest v4.24 and the basic XP Pro setup with 1 drive connected to the SATA was detected and worked fine. Immediately after installing the Forceware drivers the system would no longer boot with the SATA drive connected. I had to disconnect the SATA drive and roll back the drivers on all the PATA and SATA controllers. Everything worked normally after that.
3) The NVIDIA Nforce PCI System Management will NOT share IRQ 11 with anything. This really bummed me out as the second channel on my Adaptec 39320-R Host RAID controller also wants to use IRQ 11. I had no option but to take out the 15K SCSI drive that I use for speedy virtual CD access in gaming and replace it with an IDE drive. I still have not gotten this issue worked out and had to disable the second channel. I hope a later BIOS fixes this issue. It has been some time since I have had a hard IRQ conflict like this, I thought XP wuz supposed to solve these sorts of issues. Oh well.
4) Damn that southbridge gets hot, active cooling would have been nice. I already replaced the white thermal goo with AS, removed the MSI ID plate and installed a small fan to the HS. The temps still go 50c+ under load. I was going to add a larger HS but the ramsinks on my ATI 9800 Pro inhibit installation. I may add a small water block later to get temps down.

So you say you can't boot above 240fsb setting using your bios buy you can use clockgen and get to 280? What version of clockgen are you using? I can't get above 230 no matter what I use. When I use clockgen in windows and go above 235 windows just locks up. Also getting alot of hard drive corruption. I've had to install windows 4 times now. Using a couple of raptors in a raid array. I wonder if it's a pci lock thing or the crappy nvidia ide and sata drivers. Did the fan on the heatsink help at all?

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