K8N Neo 4 MSI7125 Silicon no valid device error

Hello
I have a MSI 7125 motherboard, BIOS 1.D0
I have been using the nVidia SATA ports for awhile with two 500GB, a 400GB and a 250GB hard drive.  Over time the drives eventually became full and I started thinking of setting up a RAID1 in case one of them failed (their 5 years old or more, don't know how long they last) and to possibly take one or two of them out for possible future system later.
Well, I got two 1.5TB drives, intending to set them up as RAID1, plugged them into the Silicon ports, booted up...  After detecting all the drives attached as usual, plus the new two on the Silicon ports, it then indicates "no valid device".
I then started switching the cables around...plugged the 1.5TBs into the nVidia ports with the two 500GB drives, and the older 400 and 250GB drives on the Silicon ports, and then those on Silicon also get the "no valid device" message.
Then I unplugged all the SATA except for one on nVidia (the 250GB) and one on Silicon (normal boot drive, 400GB, used to be on nVidia).  Same message for Silicon.
I than began to wonder how I got it to work the first time when I first got the board (and before the past two BIOS updates) and switched between Silicon and nVidia before settling with nVidia just becuse it was the first to be detected, getting to Windows faster, impatient lol).  And it could just be me, but I coulden't find even from where to select a Silicon device as boot via BIOS, or boot select menu on post.  Only the nVidia ones I could select as boot device.
And I did try toggling between enable/disable on BIOS settings with SATA, IDE, etc.  I only saw one listing in thre for Silicon and it was for the RAID.
The other RAID menu appeared to list only the nVidia devices, SATA1 through 4 (Silicon being 5 through 8)
Thanks for the help.
The 400GB and 250GB drives are Hitachi.
The two 500GB and 2 1.5TB drives are Seagate.
MSI7125 with:
2*1GB Cruicial DDR400 RAM
1 socket AMD64 3500 soon to be upgraded to the x2 4200 (only place I could find anything now is on ebay, they stopped production just as I started looking to upgrade!).
1 ATI X700 PCI-E video card from Cruicial (about to be upgraded to the eVGA GeForce 9800GTX+ when my...)
1 Silencer 750 from PC Power and Cooling (...arrives).

Okay, I might have pushed the panic button too early, lol.  Didn't help by only being able to spend half an hour with the computer all week though.
So, I went into the Silicon utility again, and formated the HDs, thought I did that earlier, and after restarting and loading Windows, it now appears to work, two 1.5TB drives in RAID1.
So, with the other drives though, I can't just unplug one currently in an nVidia port and plug it in a Silicon port without having to reformat it?

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    K8N Neo Platinum w/ newest version of BIOS (I checked)
    1 GB PC3200 Kingston RAM (2x512MB)
    ATI brand Radeon 9700 pro 128MB
    60.0GB Maxtor 5400RPM HD
    500w Viomax PSU (30A on +3.3V, 50A on +5V, 25A on 12V)
    No other PCI cards installed at the moment
    Problems:
    1. My computer won't restart. Whenever Windows calls for a restart or I hit the button myself, the screen goes blank while everything else stays active. People here told me it was my PSU. My Radeon 9700 Pro requires an extra floppy power cable so I thought I'd test out another video card that didn't need extra power to see what would happen. My comp worked fine with a 9200. So I bought a 500w Viomax PSU, a cheap one, yes, but it got good reviews. I stuck it in there and my comp STILL wouldn't restart normally. It has changed however: it'll restart the 3rd or 4th time I hit the button, but never the first..... which it definitely should.
    2. My HD wasn't recognized by my mobo. After doing the first part of installing WinXP pro, my computer restarted (well, I had to switch the PSU off then on again to get it to work) but then I got "Error loading operating system." After a while of trial and error I arbitrarily changed the "Access Mode" in CMOS to "Large" instead of "Auto". Bingo, it worked, yay. Even though it works now, I still don't like the idea that my mobo couldn't automatically recognize my HD. I tested different ribbon cables and other HDs that I knew worked fine in other computers but they all wouldn't work in mine unless I put the setting on Large. hmmm.
    3. The supplied nVidia IDE driver slows down my computer and causes Video Errors. The windows logo takes FOREVER to show up (or it will freeze in the middle of its fading it for 10-15s) when those IDE drivers are installed. As soon as I uninstall them everythings chipper though. Note that this problem is IDE, which might go along with why my HD isn't recognized.
    4. When I open GoodMem, a memory manager/monitor that came with the mobo, my computer drastically slows down to a point where it's literally not usable. If I close GoodMem, it goes back to normal. I tried out a 256MB stick of my sisters just to see what happens and what'da ya know, GoodMem works perfectly.
    I've never built a computer before and all this really makes me wanna RMA my board....... so here's the big question.... SHOULD I?
    Thanks everyone,
    -Robert Lee

    Hi
    sounds more like a Disk prob, or Windows prob than Mobo or CPU,
    Did you format the HDD on this comp, if it was formatted on another machine, it can cause it not to be recognised.
    Virus or Spy progs can slow down a comp,  Try Task Manager, Ctrl +Alt + del, see what procs are running, if there is a strange unknown one it may be cause. If you go to the processor heading, the proc idling should not be using much CPU time, if something is using a lot of CPU time and is not essential, close it and see if it helps.
    For the HDD, try disk management. Right click My computer, then manage then disk management, you will see if disk are healthy, you can also check them for probs.
    May need defraged, and Chkdsk run.
    In device Manager, does the IDE HDD show as OK, no yellow marks. You could try updating driver,
    cheers
    jocko

  • K8N Neo Platinum not passing POST

    Hello,
    I have just bought an MSI K8N Neo Platinum OEM and it will not pass POST. I have gone through all the items in the Sticky section, but still it won't pass. I don't know what to do.
    Here's the hardware I have hooked up:
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    3. Clearing the CMOS by removing the battery. I left the battery out for 3 minutes, then 30 minutes, then 8 hours. Same boot sequence.
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    Lastly, I do not know the current BIOS version. Is it possible that the BIOS is an early version that does not support my memory/CPU/video card? I bought the mobo OEM, so I do not know what BIOS it has loaded. Is there some way I can figure this out without passing POST? This is driving me absolutely insane. 
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    Kyle Renwick

    Make sure the fan you are using for the xp90 is supporting RPM readouts .
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    Take the system bare bone ( mobo + cpu + ram + gfx )
    Have any award beep codes ? , note them down and decode them against
    http://bioscentral.com/beepcodes/awardbeep.htm
    Still stuck !
    Remove AGP + ram too .
    The mobo shall beep (endless beeping )
    Insert the ram , the mobo shall beep - missing gfx .
    Got this far and you know cpu + memory initialize but have problems with gfx or other devices
    later in the post/init process .
    Do not have any usb devices connected to internal or external connectors ,
    note that the USBOC pin un JUSB1/JUSB2 is NOT to be connected .
    Also try altering between ps2 and usb keyboard as this also has caused non post situation for people .
     

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