K8n Neo Fsr And Radeon X800 Pro

I'm considering upgrading from my 9800 pro video card to a new x800 pro. But the placement of the northbridge chip on the FSR board is really tight even with the 9800. I've got an MSI stock fan on my northbridge heatsink which increases the height by about 1/4 inch. Does anyone have an x800 pro installed with their K8N motherboard AND a northbridge cooler? Does it all fit without any special modifications?

Stock North Bridge Fan but Bigger better heatsink for both CPU and Vid card here's a pic of how tight it is, Now if I can get all this in then you will have no problems with yours

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K8N Neo Platinum and modded X800 Pro

Hello everyone,
I am running the Board for a while now and it was rockstable.
System is:
A643200+ C0 Zalman CNPS 7000 A-Cu
MSI K8N NEO Platinum Bios 1.2
2x512MB OCZ 3700 EB
windows xp pro sp1
old card: Ati 9800 XT
new card: Saphire X800 Pro modded to XT.
After installing the Card properly, i installed the catalyst 4.8 Drivers and direct9c
After testing a little Bit benchmarking stresstesting, i rebootet and the system and it hangs at the windows xp bootscreen. i reloaded a restore point and tried to reinstall the drivers. no luck.
then i reinstalled windows xp on moday with the same drivers and everything seemed to work fine. windows booted normally, the card worked fine.
yesterday after work. same thing. lookup at the bootscreen of windows.
i uninstalled the catalyst drivers in windows safe mode then rebooted.
normally when i install the card it installs the x800pro and x800 secondary and then finds the rage theater chip and installs it too.
after freezing and getting into windows i can install the card drivers, but the theater chip isnt recognized anymore.
the card is working fine on 3d. i played yesteray for 4 hours at a time and no problems. but after rebooting i cant get into windows.
so i contacted the seller of the card and he told me i am the thired customer who hast issues with the card on this board.
same problem. random freezes on boot sequence, but others seem to have problems in 3d which i dont. i only cant boot.
any suggestions?

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Originally posted by phreakymind
Hello everyone,
I am running the Board for a while now and it was rockstable.
System is:
A643200+ C0 Zalman CNPS 7000 A-Cu
MSI K8N NEO Platinum Bios 1.2
2x512MB OCZ 3700 EB
windows xp pro sp1
old card: Ati 9800 XT
new card: Saphire X800 Pro modded to XT.
After installing the Card properly, i installed the catalyst 4.8 Drivers and direct9c
After testing a little Bit benchmarking stresstesting, i rebootet and the system and it hangs at the windows xp bootscreen. i reloaded a restore point and tried to reinstall the drivers. no luck.
then i reinstalled windows xp on moday with the same drivers and everything seemed to work fine. windows booted normally, the card worked fine.
yesterday after work. same thing. lookup at the bootscreen of windows.
i uninstalled the catalyst drivers in windows safe mode then rebooted.
normally when i install the card it installs the x800pro and x800 secondary and then finds the rage theater chip and installs it too.
after freezing and getting into windows i can install the card drivers, but the theater chip isnt recognized anymore.
the card is working fine on 3d. i played yesteray for 4 hours at a time and no problems. but after rebooting i cant get into windows.
so i contacted the seller of the card and he told me i am the thired customer who hast issues with the card on this board.
same problem. random freezes on boot sequence, but others seem to have problems in 3d which i dont. i only cant boot.
any suggestions?
Load BIOS default to try again.
Maybe you can update the BIOS to 1.42 to try again.

K8N Neo Platinum killed my X800 Pro

I installed my new K8N Neo Platinum.
I had an existing BBA X800 Pro in my old Epox 8RDA which I moved to my new MB.
After firing up the K8N Neo, my X800 Pro was dead.
The X800 Pro was fine just before I put it in the K8N Neo Platinum MB.
One can reasonably assume it was the K8N Neo that killed my X800 Pro - what else could kill it?
One thing that I did wrong was to not attach the smaller MB PSU plug (the 4 pin CPU power supply plug - I attached the other wider one), however, that should not kill the video card !!!
I thought the MB was dead because the CPU fan was not spinning but after attaching the power supply plug, the MB started and CPU fan was spinning, however, my beloved X800 Pro was dead.
I tried my X800 Pro in another computer and even reinstalled my old Epox MB, but to no avail. My X800 Pro is officiially dead.
I'll be sending a $400 bill to MSI for a replacement

I know it's dead because it says something like this on bootup:
YOUR VIDEO CARD POWER CABLE IS NOT CONNECTED, PLEASE RTFM
It didn't use those exact words but that was the meaning.
After that mesage, the computer will not continue with the boot process - it just sits there like big lump of expensive rock
The power cable is connected to the video card so the message is erroneous.
I've tried the video card in another computer and the results are the same with the same message.
The video card is dead.
I closely examined the video card and I see no signs of damage. I paid close attention to the power supply socket on the video card and I could not see any damange and the soldering looks intact.
It might be simple to fix the video card but I wouldn't know how to do it.

K8n Neo Fsr And X800 Pro

I'm considering upgrading from my 9800 pro video card to a new x800 pro. But the placement of the northbridge chip on the FSR board is really tight even with the 9800. I've got an MSI stock fan on my northbridge heatsink which increases the height by about 1/4 inch. Does anyone have an x800 pro installed with their K8N motherboard AND a northbridge cooler? Does it all fit without any special modifications?

Thanks DeathStalker. I just didn't want to plop down 4 bills for a video card only to have to return it and pay a restocking fee because the card wouldn't fit with my northbridge heatsink and northbridge fan. Man it looks tight based on my 9800 card. But I'll take your guys word for it and take the plunge. Thanks again for reviewing and responding to my post. Is the x800 card the same physical dimensions as the 9800 pro or shorter in overall length?

K8n neo 3 and radeon 9600pro problem !

ok have anyone have the same problem with radeon 9600pro like me. the card is agp slot and when starting the computer the screen doesent react at all its stay blank. but when putting the radeon 8500 it starts if anyone could say where is the click.... thanks
the mainboard is k8n neo 3 gold

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Make sure in the BIOS it is set to run from AGP, if there is that option.
the bios itself detects if you use a pci express or agp card in the AGR slot, you cant configure it.
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There have been some issues with the 9600 series and 8X agp / agp fast writes.
Try forcing 4X agp and turning off agp fast writes in bios to see if it at least boots for you.
there are no settings like fastwrites or AGP mode. the AGR slot only works with cards which are compatible.
have a look http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/agr/7135agr.pdf
i had luck my card works and is not on this list

MSI KT4V and Radeon X800 Pro...

Hi all!
I have a question regarding my MSI KT4V MoBo. Does anybody have any experience installing a Radeon X800 card in such a MoBo?
I have read earlier that there was a size problem with the 9800 pro series.
Apparently it is so big that it touches the ram slots!?
The X800 is smaller though so it may not be a problem.
Any help will be appreciated
Best Regards
Basse

I don't see how it would touch the RAM slots, it might just be a problem when you need to remove RAM that you need to remove the card first so you can pull back the RAM clips.

K8N Neo-FSR - SATA?

hello, in case I missed the information I apologize . I got the K8N Neo-FSR and I want to ask if there is four Sata support on the board. I have noticed that on the board and also on your homepage-pictures there is only support for two Sata (Sata 3, Sata 4), but in the manual there is support for up to four Sata.
Is it four or two Sata support on the board?
Thank´s

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Can I run single sata drive on them without pata drive
- Yep just plug it into either socket.
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use the rest of sata drive (140gb) normally?
- No. if using raid it's preferable to use drives of same model (so that they share operating spec) & size so that no wasted space.
You may find this sticky link useful Raid Guide
luck

Weird problem with k8n neo fsr

hello!
i have weird problem with my K8N Neo-fsr and Athlon 64 2800+ socket 754, when i try to overclock i change in bios HT from 4 to 3 (for better stability), after restart nothing happen, my pc wont boot, also nothing on screen, so i must clear cmos for solve my problem and set to 4 i try several bioses from official to moded also pinochio`s and syar`s moded and allways the same issue is it problem with processor? or motherboard?
thanx for your help and sorry for my english

You should first get down cpu ratio, then get up cpu fsb and as you wanted set ht frequency from 4 to 3 and "save changes and exit" if it doesn't boot change you psu (at least antec 380 or tagan) or go fast to send back your mobo to reseller!!

K8N Neo FSR, Please Help a Newbie

Hey all,
I'm new to these forums and was wondering if I could get some help or advice. I currently own an athlon 64 3200+ newcastle with a K8N Neo FSR motherboard. I have heard that my mobo is basically a platinum minus the luxury of firewire ports, could I be correct about that? If so, I went to msi.com.tw website to update my drivers and could not help but notice that K8N Neo Platinum has two more updates that whats offered for my FSR, those being CoreCenter 1.7.0.0 and DigiCell 1.03.00.00. I find corecenter to be useful and am wondering will these two updated versions of the apps work with my FSR, and why would MSI not post the updates in the FSR section.
Also, my board came stock with bios 1.2 and I loaded up windows sp2 and all the drivers and such and everything seems to be working fine to my knowledge, cool n quiet on with cpu around 994 to 1004 mhz, temp readings from bios and sandra all report 36-43 degrees C. Does that sound right to anyone, because I'm not a fan of bios flashing, would flashing to the newest official 1.4 be any benefit to me?
One last thing, I encountered a problem with a creative usb mouse and do not know the source of the problem or how to solve it, it is the optical mouse lite with a blue scroll wheel and operates fine, but after I shutdown my computer the mouse light is still on, is that normal or is there anything I can do about it besides shutting down my power supply everytime I turn off my computer.
Sorry for the loads of questions, if anyone actually reads this please provide me some input/insight. Thanks in advance.
System specs:
A64 3200+ Newcastle Year 04 Week 26
MSI K8N Neo FSR Bios V1.2
512 MB PQI Turbo Black Memory
Aspire 500 W psu, 12v = 34 amps
Maxtor 60 gig IDE hd
52x32x52 cdrw

If you look at the prduct page for the K8N Neo FSR, and choose the BIOS link it brings you to page:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=571&kind=1
Which shows the BIOS' available for the K8N Neo FSR. Notice that 1.3 and 1.4 are available and that the K8N Neo FSR is considered to be a MS7030 which is the same model number of the K8n Neo Platinum. From this I surmise that you can use the same BIOS and drivers and all that the Platinum uses and everything should work fine.
RB

Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Usb And K8n Neo-fsr??? What Solution???

AHHHHH! What it is occurring?
Reason that the MSI does not decide this problem of the peripherals
(mouse, keyboard and others) that they are not recognized when the operational
system comes to tona?
What incautiousness is this?
I am thinking seriously about changing my K8N NEO-FSR for an
equivalent of the Gigabyte.
In the majority of fórums in the world that speaks on series K8N and
K8N2 they come reporting this problem.
I ask for to more care with its fidiciary offices customers, therefore we deposit our investments in its equipment MSI.
I am tired to have that to replugar mine mouse, when exactly reinio the computer. Without speaking in my card of memory.
The problem if reproduces in all outputs USB.
Already I reinstalled the operational system and everything continues
in the same one.
These same peripherals functioned very well in a K7N2-L with nFORCE 2.
Ahhhh! I changed the cursed one and exactly thus it continues.
Necessary of a solution of the MSI already.

OK I am also running Win2k. I beleive you must have the latest service pack 4 to get proper usage of USB 2.0.
Also in device manager under USB 2.0 Root Hub in the Properties/Power Management tab do you have The allow Computer to turn off this device to save power turned off? You may also check and see if any USB device in Device Manager has that turned on. If it is checkmarked then uncheckmark it.
Outside of that you could have a device that is attached that is causing the issue. Try one device at a time and see if you still get the problem. I have been through this myself but luckily not on my current board. I had that problem when I had a USB card in my old ASthlon 1200 system on an A-bit board. However what I just listed fixed it when I discovered a device (A mouse if I remember correctly) was not functioning well.

K8N Neo-FSR compatibility?

hello!
I want to buy a new motherboard K8N Neo-FSR for my computer-CPU AMD 64 2800+ (1800MHz) ADA2800AEP4AP Clawhammer family: F, model: 4, Stepping: 8, Ext.Family: F, Ext.Model: 4, Revision: SH7-C0, 2xDDRAM Apacer 512MB UNB PC3200 CL2.5 P/N: 77.50739.15G, sound card Herculles Gamesurround Fortissimo 2, tv card ASUS TV/FM 7135, HDD SATA Seagate Barracuda 200GB model ST3200822AS, DVD RW Benq 822A and DVD ROM Benq 16/50, graphic card Sapphire Radeon 9800SE 128bit 128MB, keyboard Microsoft Multimedia Natural and Microsoft Intelimouse Explorer 2.0A wirelles USB. and i ask if will be this board compatible with all of these components, cpu, memory etc.
thanx for your answers and sorry for my english, i am from slovakia

V,
You have to research yourself each componets to figure our if it is suitable, especially your memory. Look for compatibility listings at various OEM web sites.
Your overall plan is OK but I question your selection of a first genertion AMD 2800 Clawhammer for your CPU. The Clawhammer is a 0,13 u core CPU with an older an less flexible memory controller. Scrape together a little more money and get yourself at least an AMD 3000/3200 + Venice or San Diego AMD CPU. You will be very glad you did later on.
Good luck,

S3 mode doesn't work fine on K8N Neo-fsr since overclocking, please help!

I have a K8N Neo-FSR (MS-7030) BIOS version 1.6 (I tried 1.4, 1.5), running AMD64 2800+ SK 754, 2x 256MB DDR400 Kingston valueram pluging in slot 1&2. It runs well except S3 mode .
Since I overclock HTT (everythings else have their own default values), S3 mode seems to work so crazy . After wake up from this usefull stop-grant standby mode, HTT is given back to its original speed, 200MHz, without notice (?!) .
You know that I don;t like this much, do you?
Who responsible for this function? Mainboard or CPU? If it's mainboard, which department will be sentenced, BIOS or chipsets/ICs?
Could anybody give me a solution to achive higher speed by overclocking without giving up using S3?
Thanks so much!

It's a bad new! I had bad feeling about DFI with the same problem, S3 mode resuming bring FSB back to df and even sometimes led the system to the ruin. But upgrading bios solved this issue. My old Abit did S3 mode fine. Now I have a new MSI and once again I must use teknophyle's way or slow hibernation instead.
On the same occasion, I wana ask about some shortcoming in 1.6 bios: power on by keyboard/mouse and power led options. I only found S3 wake up by keyboard/mouse but not keyboard/mouse power-on options! There is power led option in version 1.56 but it disapeared in 1.6. Now my mobo has no signal to differentiate between sleep and power-off. would you give back the useful power led option and add power on by combination keys in the near future bios version, syar? Look forward to hearing some good new from you :D.

K8N Neo-FSR doesn't boot

Hello everyone
I got my mobo (K8N Neo-FSR) more than 6 months ago, and worked without any problems until today.
First of all, I made a BIOS update from 1.7 to 1.9 using MSI Live Update. No problems to report, the computer worked after that for several hours. Then I turned off the PC. And the next time I wanted to turn it on, it didn't boot.
Here's my D-Bracket message :
This corresponds to "Initializing keyboard controller"
The problem is that apparently it has absolutely nothing to do with my keyboard, as I tired changing it.
Clearing CMOS didn't help.
Any ideas how I can fix this? Or should I contact the support?

Before you answered, I tried to check the RAM. As a matter of fact by removing one of 3 memory sticks the computer worked. Later I figured out that if I lower the RAM frequency from 200 MHz to 166, all 3 sticks work perfectly well.
Now the question is : WHY THE HELL DID THIS BIOS UPDATE MESS UP MY RAM??? Weird.

Cannot find the Power Led connector for JFP1 to connect on K8N Neo FSR

Hi,
I have just bought the MSI K8N Neo FSR (MS 7030) to build a new computer with (amongst others) an Athlon 64 3000 processor and an Enermax 3051 case.
I can't even get a start: if I click on "Power" I just get a red light under the Power button for 1 second and nothing start.
This may be related with the fact that I did not find a "Power LED" connector for JFP1 (I have connected all the others connectors, including the Power LED one for JFP2).
Thank you in advance for your help.
Precisions:
At the beginning, I had forgotten to connect the ATX 12V power connector on JPW1.
After having done that without getting an improvement, I did a Clear CMOS (after having unplug the power cable).
Now the CPU fan begins to turn just when I switch the power on from back of the case (and not from the power button) and stops turning after five seconds.
Sometimes, I get an orange light during 1/2 second on the D-bracket LEDs.

Quote from: Dr Stu on 20-November-05, 04:36:29
evidently if he fixed it, the solution was posted elsewhere
so what have you tried so far? has this system ever worked?
post your PSU specs. try powering up board outside the case in case there is a short somewhere
I have tried a different power unit, different JFP1 configerations, removing and replacing MB battery, changing the jumper settings on JBAT1 to clear CMOS.
Everything is just dead, no power anywhere. I get the fan light inside the Power unit to light up for 1 second when i connect the power cable and thats it. Its a 450 Watt power unit so it should be plenty. Maybe i will try removing the board and starting it that way.
This system has never worked, i just built it.

K8N Neo FSR Bios overclocking functions help needed

Hi all, I am a small pc builder for the family and i have found some problems with the bios of my uncles K8N neo FSR which I recommended for him. Basically it wouldn't seem to overclock with the 'Dynamic Overclocking' function on bios v1.7 but did manually by adjusting FSB incrementally (ie from 200 to 205 Mhz). When I questioned this before someone had mentioned that it could be ok to run like this. However I have since updated the bios to v1.9 and even v2.1 as they became available but now neither seem to overclock manually nor using 'Dynamic overclocking'
Firstly though, can someone clear up my first conception; To test if the Dynamic Overclocking function is working can I set it to a higher setting (ie.'Commander'), save and exit bios (restarting) ---> go straight back into bios ----> go straight back into Cell Menu and check 'Current frequency of cpu' has changed?
I only ask this as if this is the case then my Dynamic Overclocking function hasn't worked with three bios' and I wont bother with anything until I RMA the board lol, as I have never been able to change the frequency of my cpu at boot/bios stage with the dynamic overclocking function.
Can anyone help me?

Hi Stu, yesterday I think i found out what u mean lol. I studied a 'Sticky' ? about overclocking A64s and found some interesting stuff. Apparently overclocking the HTT is dangerous, and A64s are always at least half locked. Now with this in mind Ive been wondering if there are interlocks built into my mainboard stopping me from using the 'CPU Overclock' function to overclock my pc manually from the set 200Mhz while my HTT is still set at 4x. -I say this as the HTT on my system is 800Mhz for a socket754 Sempron 3000Bx, thus overclocking this would increase my HTT above the 800Mhz threashold (I think) lol. All sounds complex but I think Ive figured it out as Im following instructions from the sticky to lower my HTT multiplier before increasing my cpu overclock. Its hard as my mainboard has Nforce3 chipset which has different ways of overclocking to every other board lol. So far I have managed to increase the overclock, but only when the HTT multiplier is lowered to 3x. I have also lowered my cpu multiplier though, and thus am trying to figure out where my 1810Mhz clock speed has changed to 1630 lol. Will try again now. I want to raise the clock speed above 1810, keeping the HTT lower than 800 and leaving the memory alone at 400DDR lol. Im hoping the memory is seperate as it seems to be on this chipset.

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