K8N Neo-FSR nForce3 - Corsair XMS memory running at wrong speed

I have a mobo mentioned in the title. The problem is with upgrading the memory - I've recently bought a 1GB memory stick to go with the 2 existing 512kb memory sticks to make up a total of 2GB, the maximum allowed by this mobo.
The problem is if I have all 3 sticks installed i.e. 2GB the memory will only run at 166mhz/DDR333. If I have just the 1GB stick installed it runs at 200mhz/DDR400. If I have the 2 x 512mb sticks installed it runs at 200mhz/DDR400. If I have have the 1GB and 1x512mb stick, either one, in either socket, it runs at 200mhz/DDR400. BUT if I have all 3 sticks installed it only runs at 166mhz/DDR333.
Does anyone know whats going wrong and how to fix it? ??? The memory sticks are all Corsair XMS 3200C2PT 400mhz sticks. The bios version I'm not sure of, I updated the Bios after I built the PC a year and a half ago but I havn't done it since I'm worried about something going wrong (bad flash = dead PC) etc. The stick timings are all 2-3-3-6 I've tried it with the "auto" setting in the Bios and setting the timings manually but the result is the same.

Quote from: Stick on 08-March-06, 17:08:07
you might try different timings on the memory, something like 3-4-4-8. there is technically one way to pass this issue and that is by overclocking. you can OC your CPU till the memory will run at 200mhz (i think FSB should be 240 in this case if i'm not mistaken)
I'm not very up on o/c'ing.. in fact I know next to nothing about it. How would I do that without damaging anything?
Quote from: Apple renegade on 08-March-06, 18:05:33
Not sure about the nForce S754, but the via ones had no way to run on DDR400 using 3 sticks.
Doesn;t it say in the manual ?
It does so here:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=571
Sorry, where? I can't see any mention of it. According to the manual and on the website it ought to be compatible:

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Have you sucessfully overclocked you K8N Neo FSR? Plz post details.

Hi guys !
Im still stuck with my system that does NOT want to be overclocked so I wanted to know if I'm the only one or not ?
If you have managed to overclocked you system using K8N Neo FSR please post you details.
And I'm also looking for tips on how to bypass issues related to unsucessful overclocking.
Thank You.
I've managed to do this so far...
A64 3200+ NewCastle CG-stepping @ 210x11 vCore 1.55
Corsair Value Select DDR 400 @ 3-3-3-8-2T VDimm 2.70
using official BIOS version 1.4
But that's it...
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If I set FSB 230x10 = NoBoot/Unsucessful Windows Login
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Gen,
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I had the exact same problem. Thought it was the CPU, so returned it and got a new one, and the error continued. Here's how I got it to stop:
Take EVERYTHING off the mobo. All the PCI/AGP cards and the ram. You can leave your drives hooked up, but unplug the power from them.
Then, try to reboot it. When I did that, it finally got past the 4 LEDs and gave the memory error leds. So I put in the ram, and it gave me the next error. So on and so forth. I kept putting in whatever piece of hardware it was crying about, until it got all the way through, at which point I put in my extra stuff (sound card, tv card). Yes, it's a pain in the ass.
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Hello all,
I have just finished building a new system, based on the Athlon64 and using the K8N Neo FSR mobo. Of course the system doesn't post, it instead gives out an endless series of beeps, about 3 seconds apart, and the D-Bracket gives me the error code in which only LED #3 is green - meaning "Initialing keyboard controller" which means nothing to me, as the keyboard is hooked up, and I checked re-checked and double re-checked the connection.
So I go about the usual diagnosis tactics, disconnecting device after device until I am left with only the CPU and one module of RAM, and still no post. I tried swapping the PSU (both rated 500w, although only 18a on the 12v+ rail). I also tried a memory module from a working system (a P4 one). I tried resetting the CMOS using the jumper.
One weird sidenote, is that the system did post twice (from over a hundred times) but it didn't get past the system information screen.
I have built several systems in my life, and this is the hardest time I ever had.
If anyone could think of something useful (except buy a new mobo), I would be very grateful.
Full system spec (if it helps, I tried it completely barebones and it made no difference):
CPU - Athlon64 3200+, including generic Heatsinc and Fan
Motherboard - MSI K8N Neo FSR, Award Bios
Memory - 2x512 Corsair value 400Mhz DDR
Hard Drive- Western Digital Caviar 200Gb S-ATA 150
Graphics Card - PNY Verto Geforce 6800 GT
PSU - L&C p4 LC-B500E - +3.3v 28A, +5v 50A, +12v 18A, -5v 0.8A, -12v 1A, 5VSB 2.5A
Several other optical drives that are currently disconnected, pending system starting to function.
No O.S has been installed yet, as the system doesn't even post.
Thanks in advance.

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Originally posted by egg1981
Hello all,
I have just finished building a new system, based on the Athlon64 and using the K8N Neo FSR mobo. Of course the system doesn't post, it instead gives out an endless series of beeps, about 3 seconds apart, and the D-Bracket gives me the error code in which only LED #3 is green - meaning "Initialing keyboard controller" which means nothing to me, as the keyboard is hooked up, and I checked re-checked and double re-checked the connection.
So I go about the usual diagnosis tactics, disconnecting device after device until I am left with only the CPU and one module of RAM, and still no post. I tried swapping the PSU (both rated 500w, although only 18a on the 12v+ rail). I also tried a memory module from a working system (a P4 one). I tried resetting the CMOS using the jumper.
One weird sidenote, is that the system did post twice (from over a hundred times) but it didn't get past the system information screen.
I have built several systems in my life, and this is the hardest time I ever had.
If anyone could think of something useful (except buy a new mobo), I would be very grateful.
Full system spec (if it helps, I tried it completely barebones and it made no difference):
CPU - Athlon64 3200+, including generic Heatsinc and Fan
Motherboard - MSI K8N Neo FSR, Award Bios
Memory - 2x512 Corsair value 400Mhz DDR
Hard Drive- Western Digital Caviar 200Gb S-ATA 150
Graphics Card - PNY Verto Geforce 6800 GT
PSU - L&C p4 LC-B500E - +3.3v 28A, +5v 50A, +12v 18A, -5v 0.8A, -12v 1A, 5VSB 2.5A
Several other optical drives that are currently disconnected, pending system starting to function.
No O.S has been installed yet, as the system doesn't even post.
Thanks in advance.
I got the same problem let me know if u fix this....

Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Usb And K8n Neo-fsr??? What Solution???

AHHHHH! What it is occurring?
Reason that the MSI does not decide this problem of the peripherals
(mouse, keyboard and others) that they are not recognized when the operational
system comes to tona?
What incautiousness is this?
I am thinking seriously about changing my K8N NEO-FSR for an
equivalent of the Gigabyte.
In the majority of fórums in the world that speaks on series K8N and
K8N2 they come reporting this problem.
I ask for to more care with its fidiciary offices customers, therefore we deposit our investments in its equipment MSI.
I am tired to have that to replugar mine mouse, when exactly reinio the computer. Without speaking in my card of memory.
The problem if reproduces in all outputs USB.
Already I reinstalled the operational system and everything continues
in the same one.
These same peripherals functioned very well in a K7N2-L with nFORCE 2.
Ahhhh! I changed the cursed one and exactly thus it continues.
Necessary of a solution of the MSI already.

OK I am also running Win2k. I beleive you must have the latest service pack 4 to get proper usage of USB 2.0.
Also in device manager under USB 2.0 Root Hub in the Properties/Power Management tab do you have The allow Computer to turn off this device to save power turned off? You may also check and see if any USB device in Device Manager has that turned on. If it is checkmarked then uncheckmark it.
Outside of that you could have a device that is attached that is causing the issue. Try one device at a time and see if you still get the problem. I have been through this myself but luckily not on my current board. I had that problem when I had a USB card in my old ASthlon 1200 system on an A-bit board. However what I just listed fixed it when I discovered a device (A mouse if I remember correctly) was not functioning well.

OC MSI K8N NEO-FSR

is there any problems with OC this mobo..
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and can the cpu be OC without OC the ram to
Cheers Lads

you keep memory freq. in range by setup mem. index. e.g. for CPU HTT 250 with mem. index of 166, will produce memory freq. 200Mhz.

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Since I overclock HTT (everythings else have their own default values), S3 mode seems to work so crazy . After wake up from this usefull stop-grant standby mode, HTT is given back to its original speed, 200MHz, without notice (?!) .
You know that I don;t like this much, do you?
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Hello everyone
I got my mobo (K8N Neo-FSR) more than 6 months ago, and worked without any problems until today.
First of all, I made a BIOS update from 1.7 to 1.9 using MSI Live Update. No problems to report, the computer worked after that for several hours. Then I turned off the PC. And the next time I wanted to turn it on, it didn't boot.
Here's my D-Bracket message :
This corresponds to "Initializing keyboard controller"
The problem is that apparently it has absolutely nothing to do with my keyboard, as I tired changing it.
Clearing CMOS didn't help.
Any ideas how I can fix this? Or should I contact the support?

Before you answered, I tried to check the RAM. As a matter of fact by removing one of 3 memory sticks the computer worked. Later I figured out that if I lower the RAM frequency from 200 MHz to 166, all 3 sticks work perfectly well.
Now the question is : WHY THE HELL DID THIS BIOS UPDATE MESS UP MY RAM??? Weird.

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My sister in law have this board, MSI K8N Neo Platinum nforce3 250gb chipset, recently the power supply sounds noisy and a high frequency sound from the Antec Truepower 380W SP. Had maked an RMA to Antec and they had agreed to replace the 380W psu with SmartPower2.0 450W. But they asked me one question, that im not sure about:
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Quote from: syar2003 on 22-February-06, 05:10:37
Hi!
The K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) doesn't use -5v to anything.
So the -5v from the old atx spesification is not needed in your case.
WoW, thanks for fast reply!
So, it won't be any problem to use Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W with this board then? Want to make sure about it, before accept Antecs offer for replacement and had spent over 4 days to find the problem with his computer. Really don't want to do it again.
This is his riggs:
Antec Sonata
AMD 64 3000+ S754
Corsair Value S. PC3200 DDR 512MB
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 250GB SATA
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 IDE 160GB
Sapphire Radeon 9550 Atlantis 128MB DDR
and
Accton ethernet card on PCI slot
MSI D-Bracket2
so
With the "new" Antec SmartPower 2.0 450W
Any problem with this rigg and PSU?
edit:
Dound this post that it said the board do need -5V and now Im confused?
http://www.archivaty.net/forums/about12964-30.html

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Hello!
Wanted to assemble a rig for playing around with Ubuntu 64-Bit, so I headed out and obtained ...
... a MSI K8N Neo-FSR v2.0 (7030-20C, shipped with BIOS 5.10)
... a AMD Sempron 2800+ (Palomino, Step E6)
Upon power-on it refuses to POST ---> 1 continous beep
If I recall the AWARD beep-codes correctly this means that the CPU failed to initialize.
Troubleshooting steps:
- Stripped down to board + CPU + 1x RAM + GFX -> No Go (1 beep)
- Stripped down to board + CPU + 1x RAM -> No Go (1 beep)
- Stripped down to board + CPU -> No Go (1 beep)
Meanwhile I tested the CPU and RAM in in another S754 board a friend borrowed me ... both work fine.
So this leads me to the question:
Does anyone has a clue what might be wrong here? I don't have greater experiences with nForce boards so my knowledge about them is very limited.
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Quote from: syar2003 on 27-August-06, 20:29:14
This is the latest bios version of the 5X bios series (and should be a safe one since yours is currently running with 510).
http://download.msi.com.tw/support/bos_exe/mbd_bios/7030v54.zip
Don't know if it will add support for your cpu though.
Well ... as the changelog of the BIOS isn't exactly informative we would only know if I could get the board to POST so that I would be able to flash.
This however isn't a valid option as the board keeps on beeping upon power-on.
Quote from: syar2003 on 27-August-06, 20:29:14
Theese 7030 boards have become unbelievable hard to track as there are so many versions released now.
ref: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=688
This page also lists another bios series to use 1X and 9X series
In addition it lists 2800 E6 Palermo as NONE (which means not verified/under testing)
Direct link to many 7030 boards bioses are also gone .
You're right --- I did some more investigation yesterday and became award of the "too many 7030's" issue. The one I'm referring to is actually the one you linked at (K8N Neo-FSR V2.0).
As the sticker on the flash reads v5.1 I assume the board is PCB rev. 1 ... as the 9.x BIOS seems to be for PCB v3.0 only.
Took a look through the CPU Support ... and ... WTH?
Only Turion CPUs and one A64 (step E6) is listed as compatible?
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Thanks for pointing me to the CPU support list ... I would have never dared to imagine that a board will only run with a limited set of AMD CPUs ...

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