K8N Neo FSR, possible BIOS bug: setting Vcore with Cool'n Quiet enabled broken?

Athlon 64 3400+, socket 754
K8N Neo FSR, Pheonix-Award BIOS V1,5
WinXP SP2
Having Cool'n Quiet disabled in BIOS setup, CPU core voltage adjustment
using 'Adjust CPU VID' below the Athlon 64 default 1,5V core voltage
works like a charm. Fine!
But with Cool'n Quiet enabled in BIOS setup (and WinXP), under load the
CPU core voltage raises to 1,5V in any case, independently of what I did
define in BIOS setup with 'Adjust CPU VID' (e.g. 1,4V). Software tools setting
Vcore like Core Center are not running.
So I can choose to either run a silent system in idle mode with Cool'n Quiet
enabled or under heavy CPU load with Cool'n Quiet disabled but Vcore
reduced :-( Am I missing something or does it rather look like a BIOS
bug?
Greetings, Falo

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 21-March-05, 00:19:19
As undervolting is not considured standard operating proceedures then how can it be considured a bug.
nor is overclocking but MSI mobo manual reads 'This motherboard is designed to support overclocking.'
So this mobo is designed for supporting at least one non standard operating procedure
Seriously, if BIOS offers a feature I suppose it to work as expected.
regards, Falo

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Hello!
Wanted to assemble a rig for playing around with Ubuntu 64-Bit, so I headed out and obtained ...
... a MSI K8N Neo-FSR v2.0 (7030-20C, shipped with BIOS 5.10)
... a AMD Sempron 2800+ (Palomino, Step E6)
Upon power-on it refuses to POST ---> 1 continous beep
If I recall the AWARD beep-codes correctly this means that the CPU failed to initialize.
Troubleshooting steps:
- Stripped down to board + CPU + 1x RAM + GFX -> No Go (1 beep)
- Stripped down to board + CPU + 1x RAM -> No Go (1 beep)
- Stripped down to board + CPU -> No Go (1 beep)
Meanwhile I tested the CPU and RAM in in another S754 board a friend borrowed me ... both work fine.
So this leads me to the question:
Does anyone has a clue what might be wrong here? I don't have greater experiences with nForce boards so my knowledge about them is very limited.
Thanks for helpful suggestions.
-Storm

Quote from: syar2003 on 27-August-06, 20:29:14
This is the latest bios version of the 5X bios series (and should be a safe one since yours is currently running with 510).
http://download.msi.com.tw/support/bos_exe/mbd_bios/7030v54.zip
Don't know if it will add support for your cpu though.
Well ... as the changelog of the BIOS isn't exactly informative we would only know if I could get the board to POST so that I would be able to flash.
This however isn't a valid option as the board keeps on beeping upon power-on.
Quote from: syar2003 on 27-August-06, 20:29:14
Theese 7030 boards have become unbelievable hard to track as there are so many versions released now.
ref: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=688
This page also lists another bios series to use 1X and 9X series
In addition it lists 2800 E6 Palermo as NONE (which means not verified/under testing)
Direct link to many 7030 boards bioses are also gone .
You're right --- I did some more investigation yesterday and became award of the "too many 7030's" issue. The one I'm referring to is actually the one you linked at (K8N Neo-FSR V2.0).
As the sticker on the flash reads v5.1 I assume the board is PCB rev. 1 ... as the 9.x BIOS seems to be for PCB v3.0 only.
Took a look through the CPU Support ... and ... WTH?
Only Turion CPUs and one A64 (step E6) is listed as compatible?
Guess we found the showstopper ... either the board or BIOS seems to dislike the E6 Sempron then. Hmm ... guess I either return the CPU or the board. It seems as getting a Turion would be the better choice as the shops in my area don't have anymore AGP S754 boards (and the same goes S939 boards). I only need a rig to play with server setup-scenarios of Ubuntu 64-Bit and no powerhorse for gaming or such.
Thanks for pointing me to the CPU support list ... I would have never dared to imagine that a board will only run with a limited set of AMD CPUs ...

K8N NEO FSR - wont detect HDs on first powerup (daily)

I'm having this strange problem ever since i installed this Motherboard.
First time I boot up(daily basis), it does not detect the hard drives.. any of them...
I get to the point where it notices my memory timings and says "Detecting hard drives.." (or something like that) and it just hangs there. I hit ctrl-alt-delete (also if i power it off then back on it works too) and when it comes back its fine.
Anyone had this before? Could be there's a quick fix but before I start to pick the system apart I wanted to check here first.
thanks

OK here are some specs:
AMD64 3200+ (Newcastle) - no OC
Generic 3200 DDR ram
MSI K8N NEO FSR (latest bios)
BFG 6800 OC (modded)
primary controller (ata) has: Maxtor 6Y060P0 & WDC WD800JB-00DUA3
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Sata controller has ST3120026AS
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it seems this is not a common issue so most likely i can find something wrong other than with the mobo.
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K8N Neo FSR doesn't post

Hello all,
I have just finished building a new system, based on the Athlon64 and using the K8N Neo FSR mobo. Of course the system doesn't post, it instead gives out an endless series of beeps, about 3 seconds apart, and the D-Bracket gives me the error code in which only LED #3 is green - meaning "Initialing keyboard controller" which means nothing to me, as the keyboard is hooked up, and I checked re-checked and double re-checked the connection.
So I go about the usual diagnosis tactics, disconnecting device after device until I am left with only the CPU and one module of RAM, and still no post. I tried swapping the PSU (both rated 500w, although only 18a on the 12v+ rail). I also tried a memory module from a working system (a P4 one). I tried resetting the CMOS using the jumper.
One weird sidenote, is that the system did post twice (from over a hundred times) but it didn't get past the system information screen.
I have built several systems in my life, and this is the hardest time I ever had.
If anyone could think of something useful (except buy a new mobo), I would be very grateful.
Full system spec (if it helps, I tried it completely barebones and it made no difference):
CPU - Athlon64 3200+, including generic Heatsinc and Fan
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Hard Drive- Western Digital Caviar 200Gb S-ATA 150
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Originally posted by egg1981
Hello all,
I have just finished building a new system, based on the Athlon64 and using the K8N Neo FSR mobo. Of course the system doesn't post, it instead gives out an endless series of beeps, about 3 seconds apart, and the D-Bracket gives me the error code in which only LED #3 is green - meaning "Initialing keyboard controller" which means nothing to me, as the keyboard is hooked up, and I checked re-checked and double re-checked the connection.
So I go about the usual diagnosis tactics, disconnecting device after device until I am left with only the CPU and one module of RAM, and still no post. I tried swapping the PSU (both rated 500w, although only 18a on the 12v+ rail). I also tried a memory module from a working system (a P4 one). I tried resetting the CMOS using the jumper.
One weird sidenote, is that the system did post twice (from over a hundred times) but it didn't get past the system information screen.
I have built several systems in my life, and this is the hardest time I ever had.
If anyone could think of something useful (except buy a new mobo), I would be very grateful.
Full system spec (if it helps, I tried it completely barebones and it made no difference):
CPU - Athlon64 3200+, including generic Heatsinc and Fan
Motherboard - MSI K8N Neo FSR, Award Bios
Memory - 2x512 Corsair value 400Mhz DDR
Hard Drive- Western Digital Caviar 200Gb S-ATA 150
Graphics Card - PNY Verto Geforce 6800 GT
PSU - L&C p4 LC-B500E - +3.3v 28A, +5v 50A, +12v 18A, -5v 0.8A, -12v 1A, 5VSB 2.5A
Several other optical drives that are currently disconnected, pending system starting to function.
No O.S has been installed yet, as the system doesn't even post.
Thanks in advance.
I got the same problem let me know if u fix this....

K8N Neo FSR Bios overclocking functions help needed

Hi all, I am a small pc builder for the family and i have found some problems with the bios of my uncles K8N neo FSR which I recommended for him. Basically it wouldn't seem to overclock with the 'Dynamic Overclocking' function on bios v1.7 but did manually by adjusting FSB incrementally (ie from 200 to 205 Mhz). When I questioned this before someone had mentioned that it could be ok to run like this. However I have since updated the bios to v1.9 and even v2.1 as they became available but now neither seem to overclock manually nor using 'Dynamic overclocking'
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Hi Stu, yesterday I think i found out what u mean lol. I studied a 'Sticky' ? about overclocking A64s and found some interesting stuff. Apparently overclocking the HTT is dangerous, and A64s are always at least half locked. Now with this in mind Ive been wondering if there are interlocks built into my mainboard stopping me from using the 'CPU Overclock' function to overclock my pc manually from the set 200Mhz while my HTT is still set at 4x. -I say this as the HTT on my system is 800Mhz for a socket754 Sempron 3000Bx, thus overclocking this would increase my HTT above the 800Mhz threashold (I think) lol. All sounds complex but I think Ive figured it out as Im following instructions from the sticky to lower my HTT multiplier before increasing my cpu overclock. Its hard as my mainboard has Nforce3 chipset which has different ways of overclocking to every other board lol. So far I have managed to increase the overclock, but only when the HTT multiplier is lowered to 3x. I have also lowered my cpu multiplier though, and thus am trying to figure out where my 1810Mhz clock speed has changed to 1630 lol. Will try again now. I want to raise the clock speed above 1810, keeping the HTT lower than 800 and leaving the memory alone at 400DDR lol. Im hoping the memory is seperate as it seems to be on this chipset.

MSI K8N NEO-FSR BIOS Flash Corrupt

So there was an updated BIOS for my motherboard version 1.8 while I had 1.7. I went ahead and updated and it went fine. But then I noticed that my CPU speed was dramatically reduced and the multiplier was set to 5.0 giving me a 1ghz CPU. While I thought maybe the CMOS needed to be cleared I went ahead and did that but to no avail I wasnt able to fix that problem. I went over to the MSI Live Update to check for a new BIOS update and it had said that I had 1.8 version while the current version is 1.7. Just a few days before it said 1.8 was the latest. Hmmm. So I went off to the MSI website to find version 1.7 and downloaded it. To my surprise version 1.8 was available on the MSI website. I used the WinFlash program to flash my BIOS. Before doing so I closed all open applications including anti-virus, browsers, chatting programs, and so forth. But the flash was going VERY slow and it stopped with unable to verify bios. This made me scared pooless. After I restarted to no surprise my computer started up with BIOS Checksum error and asked for a floppy. I didn't have a floppy drive connected at the time but the computer shut itself off automatically. So I went and connected and floppy and looked up online at the MSI website about how to recover the BIOS. I found it and for my AWARD bios i followed the procedure. But each time it detects the floppy drive and then the computer shuts itself off. Even if i have no disc inside the floppy drive it'll shut off. Is it supposed to do this? I am unable to reflash my BIOS because of this behavior. I don't know what the cause of this problem is now. Did maybe the recovery portion of the BIOS get corrupted too? Please help. Let me know if you need any more information. Thanks in advanced. My specs are below btw:
MSI K8N NEO FSR
AWARD REV. 1.8
AMD ATHLON 3200+ 754
PDP 2x512MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra
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WD 160GB IDE, Seagate 200GB IDE
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Okay I tried taking unnecessary stuff out but it didn't help. I'm actually having the same problem this guy is having : https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=86508.0
Hmm looks like i might be in for a new motherboard or i can try the RMA process but I dont know how long that will take. Other than that...I dont know what to do. I could buy myself a new bios flash chip but they're damn expensive and I'd rather just buy a new motherboard. On another note I noticed that when I boot up the pc and i see that it detects the floppy I immediately pressed the reset button but it'll still shut down. So it's as if there is a timer somewhere. What the hell is up with this? It also seems MSI didn't release bad BIOS releases for my board only. Seems like people with other boards are having tons of problems with the latest BIOS releases.

Who have v1.56 bios for K8N Neo FSR,give me please.thx

who have v1.56 bios for K8N Neo FSR,give me please.thx

Bios Collection. *Updated * 7025 1.B beta4 follow Syar's MSI Nvidia64 Bios Collection link.

Have you sucessfully overclocked you K8N Neo FSR? Plz post details.

Hi guys !
Im still stuck with my system that does NOT want to be overclocked so I wanted to know if I'm the only one or not ?
If you have managed to overclocked you system using K8N Neo FSR please post you details.
And I'm also looking for tips on how to bypass issues related to unsucessful overclocking.
Thank You.
I've managed to do this so far...
A64 3200+ NewCastle CG-stepping @ 210x11 vCore 1.55
Corsair Value Select DDR 400 @ 3-3-3-8-2T VDimm 2.70
using official BIOS version 1.4
But that's it...
If I increase vDimm above 2.75 = NoBoot/Unsucessful Windows Login
If I increase FSB above 210 = NoBoot/Unsucessful Windows Login
If I set FSB 230x10 = NoBoot/Unsucessful Windows Login
If I set timings to higher values e.g. 3-5-5-10 = NoBoot/Unsucessful Windows Login

Gen,
I found a few interesting things last night. 1st, I was having a problem with my CPU and Northbridge fans throttling down to about 1/3 speed after a few minutes of use. I disabled the Northbridge and CPU target fan settings in BIOS. You can find these options in the System Health menu of your BIOS. Also, if you have enabled the "Optimized" option in your BIOS, please disable it and set to "manual". The only option I've found to help is to select "Aggessive" timings for your memory. It doesn't change your speed in the BIOS for some reason, but it does do something else because my memory bandwidth is about 60 more with this setting enabled instead of disabled (3430 Int / 3430 Float in Sandra 04 versus 3493 / 3496 with the setting enabled. OF ALL THINGS MAKE SURE TO DISABLE THE "OPTIMIZED" function and leave it set at manual. Also, shoot me your current memory timings one more time. Are you using BIOS rev. 1.4? Let me know. Sorry it takes so long between posts, but I check from both work and home and it's usually several hours between getting chances to check for updated posts. I didn't have to reduce the HT setting on my overclock (I'm still running 4X), but I've read several posts where a setting of 3X will help if you're having problems o/cing. Also, on your memory timings make sure and set your DRAM to FSB ratio at Auto. This allows the memory to sync with your FSB speed. And, I don't remember if I mentioned it before, but be sure to set your AGP speed to 67 (66 is the default). At a setting at 67 it will positively lock your PCI and AGP clocks to 67 and 33 respectively, making sure that you aren't overstressing any of your PCI devices or you video card.

Does the K8N Neo-FSR support the mobile chip out of the box

just like the titles says
does the K8N Neo-FSR support the mobile clawhammer out of the box.?
if not what bios would i need,. or can anyone confirm what bios is being shipped on these motheboards now.

Jim,
From what I've read, there are updates to the memory controller and the addition of SSE3 support to Venice. It's also reported to have some performance improvement over Winchester and Newcastle. It will use a default 1.4v VCore. Hopefully, It's power comsumption is on the same order as the 90nm Winchester's or less.
If Monarch is shipping the combo with available Bios, you can bet they work. I'm thinking of giving them a call on mine to transfer the 2yr warranty to my youngest daughter (it's a graduation gift) and to discuss the Bios 3.3 vs. 3.3B3 issues. They shipped mine with B3, and I think there may be a reason. The B3 works great with a simple WPCRSET patch of the CAS to RAS Delay. That's why you see those memory settings working on mine.
On the "boxed" vs. OEM, I think buying the combo with warranty and a better heatsink is a much better choice. Use the Venus 7+ in my specs. It's low profile, all copper, and one of the highest rated. Monarch has it in their configurator. It's as quiet as AMD's. Monarch also gives you a 30 day free return with a Fedex prepaid shipping label in the package.
Danno

[K8N NEO FSR] Running DDR 200?

I am currently using the 1.3 bios, and I see the 1.1 bios fixed this problem (or one very similar to it).
I have tried all three dimm slots and they will all run my ddr400 sticks at 200. Is this just a display bug? Should I get a new bios? Is it the ram?
AMD 64 3200+
MSI K8N NEO FSR (1.3 bios)
2 x 512mb pc3200 corsair value ram
eVGA Geforce 6800GT

Dual Data Rate.....200 x 2 = 400!!!
That is shown correct!
You are running at DDR400 speeds!!!

K8n neo-fsr stops for 10 seconds during windows startup

k8n neo-fsr with bios 1.3 and winxp sp2. Never tested anything else.
200gb seagate sata drive connected to the sata4 plug. Only drive.
In the beginning of windows xp startup it stops for at least 10-20 seconds before it continues? Anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks in advance

Raise the vcore a bit. and the meory voltage one.

K8N Neo FSR won't boot.

I've flashed mainboard BIOS using LiveUpdate from v1.6 to latest v1.9 for some reason (CPUID for Sempron 64bit, low DDR speed). Everything ok . Then XP became unstable (blue screens) and finally PC wont boot (one LED is green, nothing appears on the monitor) . Any idea, except to put it back to the reseller, what I probably have to?
Does anyone have the dg. LED description for this board (there's neither anything in my printed manual nor I've found this in the web)? The description was there for older mainboards, why is this not there now???

you did the big mistake if you used live update!!!
Bios flashing and live update:
look at this: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=84865.msg606175#msg606175
and this: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=14909.0
and this https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=69.0
something abou Bios recovery:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=71165.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=65951.0
btw look at this, it`s about bios version 1.9 for MS-7030, this bios has lots of bugs at K8N Neo-FSR:
look at this: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=87562.0
and this: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=86772.0
I suggest you to revert back to official version 1.7 (which is stable) or modded version 1.56 by pinochio...look at this: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=59711.0 and also look at syar`s collection: http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~chsmith/Syars_Bios_Collection/
go to NEO1 and download 7030MOD.156

[ram]Kingston + MSI K8N Neo-FSR?

my system:
AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 2.0ghz
MSI K8N Neo-FSR(bios 1.40)
Asus V9999 GeForce 6800 256MB Gamer Ed. AGP
Audigy 2 zs
Win xp pro sp1
Hiper power 420W
I just bought the Kingston ValueR. PC3200 DDR-DIMM 1024MB Kit w/two matched ValueRAM 512MB.
When I boot up the pc just makes a sound piip piip piiip continuing....
I can't do anything since it wont boot up & i tried diffrent dimm slots but it didn't work :(
Earlier i've set the settings to t1 & the volt to 2.56 from before. Does this has something to do with it ? How can I reset the bios if I can't even get in dos :s
What should I do ?

Reset the cmos using the Jumper, is you have a manual it will show you where this is located. It will set the Bios back to Default,then you have to set it up the way you want it again. To get the RAM working set it to DDR333=166, that should sort out the No Post.
Your going to be out of luck here as the 'support' is basicaly non-existent, or just replies from people trying to get their post count up higher, I'm afraid to say.
Good luck.

Weird problem with k8n neo fsr

hello!
i have weird problem with my K8N Neo-fsr and Athlon 64 2800+ socket 754, when i try to overclock i change in bios HT from 4 to 3 (for better stability), after restart nothing happen, my pc wont boot, also nothing on screen, so i must clear cmos for solve my problem and set to 4 i try several bioses from official to moded also pinochio`s and syar`s moded and allways the same issue is it problem with processor? or motherboard?
thanx for your help and sorry for my english

You should first get down cpu ratio, then get up cpu fsb and as you wanted set ht frequency from 4 to 3 and "save changes and exit" if it doesn't boot change you psu (at least antec 380 or tagan) or go fast to send back your mobo to reseller!!

MOVED: K8N NEO-FSR - Can't find network unit?

This topic has been moved to AMD64 nVidia Based board.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=118264.0

Quote from: Stu on 09-July-08, 03:00:42
Check that onboard LAN is Enabled in BIOS (under Integrated Peripherals)
Was "Auto"
Quote from: HenryW on 09-July-08, 04:58:56
Looks like they're here for K8N Neo-FSR.
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=573
Will try this one, thanks! (Will post if it worked a bit later)
Umm, btw... Where should I extract the files?
Quote from: Fredrik Åsenius on 09-July-08, 05:07:48
Tjena Rikard! You have to describe your system in some detail.
Some famous culprits:
- Other PCI-cards.
- Poor or old Windows installation.
- Weak PSU.
- IRQ problem.
- A combination of all or any of above.
The network card is not a PCI-one, but integrated to the motherboard. Only card in the system is a PCI-E graphic.
Maybe poor or old windows, might try that...
Shouldn't be weak PSU, It's pretty good, I've been told.
IRQ?

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