K8N Neo Platinum AGP failure

Hi,
I just got my K8N Neo Platinum and when I tried to boot up the system the
system speaker makes one long and two short beeps and nothing else happens...
Tried with several AGP graphics cards, and when I tried with and old PCI graphics card
it worked fine... Updated the BIOS to version 1.5 and that did no difference...
It's not the PSU cause I have an Antec Truepower 550W and that should be enough...
And it boots fine with the PCI vga so I dont think that it's the TwinMOS RAM either....
Anyway my system contains of:
Amd Athlon 64 3400+
1Gb TwinMos 400MHz DDR
2x200GB Seagate Barracuda Sata drives
Geforce FX5800
Anyone who have any idea of what to do, checked the MSI site for that beep signal but it didnt
have any information on what to do to solve the problem...
Would be very thankful for any ideas on the problem....
// Klejs from Sweden...

It is unlikely that it is your power supply. That Antec has enough juice to power up the system. Try disconnecting both Sata drives and anything else that may be connected other than the mouse and the video. See if it will then get to the post screen. If not, take out one stick of ram and try with one stick. You might also try clearing cmos as your bios may have to be cleared. Sometimes getting things down to the minimum components on the system and clearing cmos will get it going. If you read through about a thousand posts on various forums you will find people who have had similiar problems. Many have been resolved through swapping memory or switching the ports that they use for sata. This is usually a compatability issue. It is very likely that none of your components are defective in any way. AMD 64 and the corresponding motherboards are just real picky about what they like.

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    one interesting thing that I learned from this was - when there was no memory in I got the same "beeps" as I do when I try to reboot with the memory in... could it be something to do with the memory?.... or is it still leaning toward a PSU problem..
    (Unfortunatly I don't have access to another stick of memory right now,... nor a sufficient PSU for the system...)
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