K8N Neo Platinum - HTT Multiplier Question

Isn't this board supposed to have a 5X multiplier for Hypertransport?

S754 boards/cpu is specified to 800mhz(HT=4x200) 1,6ghz double rate , S939 to 1ghz (HT=5x200) 2ghz double rate.

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MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition memory question

Hi there,
I've currently got a MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition (Nforce 3) motherboard and 2X 512 MB Corsair Value Select memory modules (both double sided) running at DDR 400 - this runs completely stable and has done for a number of months. I would like to increase my memory to 1.5 Gig but there seems to be a lot of issues?
I originally planned to buy an additional 512 Meg Corsair value select chip and place it in Bank 3 - is this acceptable?
I assue that i would have to drop the speed down to DDR 333 from 400, could anyone tell me how much of a difference this actually makes (when playing FPS games Doom3 etc..) ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as i've been looking through both this forum and the Corsair one and i cant seem to find the answer.
thanks in advance !

Just note that there are combinations of two sticks that will also make the board run in DDR333 mode (see page 2-8 of the manual). For example, using two double-sided sticks in DIMM2 and DIMM3. I've actually managed to get it to work at DDR400 in those two slots, but it's not perfectly stable and overclocking diminishes drastically. Bottom line is the system will work fine when forced to DDR333...as long as you don't expect to overclock the RAM to any significant degree.

K8N Neo Platinum USB Keyboard Question

I've been having problems with my Logitech PS/2 keyboard (mobo powers up, then immediately shuts down and requires power be disconnected before restarting). My office PS2 keyboard seems to work fine, so I will replace my current keyboard. I see that some here have better luck with USB keyboards, but when I try a USB board it isn't recognized until Windows loads. I have USB keyboard enabled in the BIOS. I haven't gotten around to fixing the front panel USB ports, and the D bracket ports don't work either, but the main ports work fine. If I did the wiring change for the front panel ports, would a USB keyboard be recognized earlier in the boot sequence, or should I just stick with a PS2 keyboard?

I just fixed my machine so the USB Keyboard and mouse work properly. I have a MSI K8N Neo Platinum (BIOS 1.4 8/27/04) and an Antec Sonata case. When assembled, the two front USB ports and the two D-Bracket 2 USB ports were not working. Also, I was unable to access the BIOS with the USB keyboard (worked fine with a PS/2, though). The four USB ports on the Motherboard were not enabled until after WINXPPRO(SP2) started to load (NUMLOCK light and optical mouse would light), preventing me from accessing the BIOS.
The cause of this problem was an extra black wire in the Front USB Port connector from the case. Once I removed the wire from port 10 on the case connector, all 8 of my USB ports worked fine. I am now able to access the BIOS with the USB keyboard (once I had unplugged and then plugged it back in) and my mouse shows power as soon as I power on my machine.
Cheers,
Tim
12/5/04

K8N Neo Platinum Bios 1.3 XP 3700 heat question

i did do a quick search on here before posting this question but had a load of varying answers ... so
i have a K8N Neo Platinum Bios 1.3 an xp 3700 and core centre says the chip is at about 45 - 50 degrees when the pc is idle
this is with the stock fan that came with the chip and ive also tried a samurai heatsink and fan .... ive reseated and reapplied artic silver and also tried thermal pads as well and the temp on the processor always comes back as 45 ish degrees
is this normal as the pc seems to run ok and even after round of doom 3 the temps only seem to hit about 55
are these chips hotter now or is it a bios / thermal temp issue
cheers guys
ohh and nice forums BTW

yup, issue with temp reading -> 1.43 beta bios for K8N NEO pL. for me 36-39 idle 42-45 after a doom3 session

K8N Neo Platinum Bios 1.3 Question

This is bit of a dumb question..... I am not a noob either, been building computers for 6 years.
I have a K8N Neo Platinum with AMD64 3000, 1 GB Corsair Value Ram, 160 GB Western Digital ATA Drive, ATI 9800 Pro 128MB Catalyst 4.7, LG DVD Drive and NEC 2510A DVD burner, Windows XP Pro with SP 1a.
Tried to get into Safe Mode the other day ( to uninstall the video driver with Driver Cleaner) ...Hit F8 while booting , got the standard menu for safe mode, picked the standard "Safe Mode " option....then the computer restarts.
So I can't get into safe mode
I went back to the MSI website to get bios version again....then I saw this for Bios version 1.3 which I have on my board....
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System reboot to safe mode when "Insert" key pressed
Does this mean, instead of hitting F8...you hit the insert key , or does this mean hit F8, chose the menu selection you want , then hit insert while it is going through the boot process.
Thought that I would ask?

The "safe mode" that the BIOS message refers to is not related to Windows' Safe Mode. The BIOS safe mode lets you un-do any overclocking or memory settings that might make your computer so unstable that you can't even get into the BIOS settings to change them. In that case, you hold insert while powering on to reset the BIOS to default safe values.
As for your problem getting into Windows' Safe Mode. If you upgraded from another motherboard that uses a different chipset, or if you somehow got the wrong chipset drivers installed, then the old AGP GART or chipset drivers will cause the system to halt/reboot very early in the Windows boot process even in safe mode. I've run into this problem before and its tricky. Best thing to do is switch back to the old motherboard, then go into safe mode and remove all chipset-related drivers, and then switch back to the new motherboard. If you can't do that, try running system repair from the windows setup CD. And failing that, you'd probably have to fully re-install the OS.

Newb Question MSI K8N Neo Platinum.

okay i have my parts coming in for my first build ever(i'm nervous, but anxious at the same time) and i just got my MSI K8N Neo Platinum today, all the other parts will come in the next couple of days, cpu arrives next week i believe, specs:
Antec P-160WF
OCZ 520w
Athlon 3400+
mobo(above)
1g corsair
160 Samsung S-ATA HD
I've been going over the mobo manual and i'm confused. I'm not familiar with raid and never had a sata drive, do they go hand and hand? Meaning do i have to set up a raid to use the s-ata drive or do i just plug the sata drive into the mobo and everything will work, loading up windows xp and all? I don't want to use raid, but do i have to? i'm trying to make this build as simple as possible since it's my first time, i know this is probably a dumb question, i'm just new at this.....don't be surprised to see more dumb questions in the coming weeks! thanks.

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Originally posted by onebyte
>>Meaning do i have to set up a raid to use the s-ata drive or do i just plug the sata drive into the mobo and everything will work, loading up windows xp and all?
In a word, no.
I've just fired up my first homebuilt last night. Joy! It's all went perfect on the first power-up. I'm in a similar position, and have a single SATA Hitachi Deskstar. Although I've not yet installed an OS, my understanding is that the Serial ATA interface will work just fine with a single drive. No multiple drive RAID is needed.
My understanding is that all you have to be sure to do is load the SATA drivers from the included diskette, by pressing F6 on boot up. Otherwise the drive won't be properly recognized by the bios. I haven't done this yet, and its still showing as an IDE drive in some places of my bios setup.
If I had it to do over again I doubt I'd spend the extra dollars to go SATA with a single HD. It adds another level of complexity in transferring things to the new machine, and - according to certain authorities -- doesn't really add the extra performance over an ATA 133 that I first thought it would. At least with a 7200 RPM drive, it seems that the 150 or 133 limits never come into play, as the drive's mechanical limitations are less than both... so it's not a bottleneck.
I'm still trying to decide the best way to transfer my Win xp OS and other MS Office programs and updates. I'm not sure if I can clone my PATA HD to the SATA, or if I do what problems I'd have to fix. I've been thinking about transferring a Ghost or Acronis True Image to the new machine and then doing a WinXP repair install to see if I can get everything working with a minimum of time and effort. I'm not sure what to expect, or if it will even work at all. Or if it does, if it will leave me with problems (registry, drivers, etc).
We'll soon see.
Good luck with the build. The only real headache I had, other than getting the HSF uniit on the processor, was trying to connect the case front panel wires for the USB, Firewire, and Audio out and IN jacks, to the mainboard headers. The case wires were single pins and were labeled differently that the MB header block pin assignments. I finally gave up on the audio and firewire, and just used the USB connections after modifying them -- removing the two extra ground wires on pins 9 and 10.
Just take your time and follow the directions. Spend some time looking at the way the heatsink and fan connect onto the processor. Doing that without messing up the thermal compound can be tricky, and the directions from AMD could be clearer on that score.
Again, good luck,
thanks for the info, let me know how it goes...by the sound of what rainz said it seems you don't need to put in that 3.5" floppy disk that came with the mobo, is that right, rainz? Let me know how your OS installs onebyte, i'm curious to know if the SATA gave you trouble or not, wish you luck!

K8N Neo Platinum nf3 250Gb SATA RAID question?

Hi all I'm ready to make the move to an AMD A64 setup from my currnet P4.
You all know what a tough job it is to find the right motherboard for an A64
After much research I think the K8N Neo Platinum is the board for me, but there's one question I can't find an answer too. So I'm turning to this forum. Thanks much for any help.
I currently run a dual RAID"0" setup. Two WD360 Raptors as boot array off the Si3114 on-board controller and two WD740 Raptors as a game \ power apps storage array off the ICH5R southbridge.
My question is; Is it possible to run this drive setup off the K8N Neo Platinum's 4 SATA controllers? Two seperate RAID"0" arrays with one bootable.
thank you-Mike

I decided to go with a S939 instead....I know me...and I'll want one as soon as I got the S754 up & running
I ordered a K8T NEO2-FIR...Its got the on-board Promise SATA RAID controller + on chip VIA RAID...so it should suit my drive needs perfectly

SATA port multiplier on MSI K8N Neo Platinum - NForce3 250Gb?

Hi,
I have a MSI K8N Neo Platinum, which uses a NForce3 250Gb chipset. I have read that port multipliers can use either SATA or SATA II hosts and drives, but I don't know if the technology is 100%, transparently compatible.
Is the aforementioned chipset/motherboard compatible with port multiplier technology?
Does it support FIS, which gives the greatest perfomance?
Does it need a BIOS or driver update?
Thanks for the attention
Brazilian Joe

Quote from: syar2003 on 22-February-06, 05:10:37
Hi!
The K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) doesn't use -5v to anything.
So the -5v from the old atx spesification is not needed in your case.
WoW, thanks for fast reply!
So, it won't be any problem to use Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W with this board then? Want to make sure about it, before accept Antecs offer for replacement and had spent over 4 days to find the problem with his computer. Really don't want to do it again.
This is his riggs:
Antec Sonata
AMD 64 3000+ S754
Corsair Value S. PC3200 DDR 512MB
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 250GB SATA
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 IDE 160GB
Sapphire Radeon 9550 Atlantis 128MB DDR
and
Accton ethernet card on PCI slot
MSI D-Bracket2
so
With the "new" Antec SmartPower 2.0 450W
Any problem with this rigg and PSU?
edit:
Dound this post that it said the board do need -5V and now Im confused?
http://www.archivaty.net/forums/about12964-30.html

K8n Neo Platinum non-booting SATA RAID setup question

I've spent several hours searching an reading trying to find out how to setup a non-bootable SATA RAID. All I can seem to find are posts about bootable installs using F6 and the drivers on a floppy.
I have setup the disks in the bios an defined the array an everything checks out. But when I boot back to WindowsXP it only sees 2 drives that it cannot find drivers for even if I point it to the correct Nvidia directory. I attempted to just reinstall the drivers but that caused a Bluescreen from a corrupt driver file that I then had to go into the repair console to copy from a floppy.
The manual an a couple of posts here say that I should go into Admin Tools-> Disk Management an it will then popup a wizard. But I'm not getting that far.
I currently have the disks on SATA 1 and 2 but will move them tonite because I've read its better for them to be on 3 and 4.
This is on a K8N Neo Platinum 7030 on Windows XP SP2. If anyone could help or just point me to where I can find help it would be greatly appreciated.

When the raid controller is enabled in bios and you start windows you can install the nvidia raid driver
from within windows .
Use the add hardware wizard from control panel .
Start the add-hw wizard .
Yes i have connected the hw - next .
Add a new hw device (bottom of the list ) -next .
Install the hw that i select manually from a list - next .
Select scsi/raid controller - next .
Choose have disk .
Then browse for the location of the nvraid.inf file

Question about S-ATA and MSI K8N Neo platinum

I'm thinking of buying a Plextor S-ATA DVD-burner but I'm not sure if my mainboard supports it? I have an K8N Neo Platinum board. Cause on the webstore that I'm going to buy it from it says "Check if your S-ATA controller has support for optical storage drives". Does anyone know if the K8N Neo board supports it?

I'd be very weary of using SATA optical drives unless you can find out FOR SURE whether or not it will work on this mobo - they can be finicky things at the best of times...

Question about K8N Neo Platinum and sound

I'm experiencing "gritty" sound when using the onboard sound of the MSI K8N Neo Platinum. Does anyone know why I'm getting this, and how to fix it? I'm using Klipsch Promedia speakers.

I couldn't stand the Realtek AC97 audio - it sounded thin and tinny.
I hated it.
I tried the nVidia drivers and the Readltek drivers, it didn't help - it sucked and there's now way to fix it.
Do your self a favour and get a Audigy 2 ZS (less than $100) and disable the $hitty AC97 audio - much better after doing that

Help with MSI K8N Neo Platinum

HELP please- motherboard MSI K8N Neo PLATINUM: I tried to take away the backplate for the heatsink (on the back side of MB) in order to install the zalman HS beafore i read the forum (use a fan...) and the worst of all happend:
I scratched the back surface!! the scratches are minor, that is 4 scratches half a milimeter long each and not deep but i can see the copper of some lines leading from the memory slots to the processr. My question is : can I try and build the computer on that motherboard anyway or better buy a new one? is there a risk of dammaging other components? oh god what a mistake!

Make sure the new backplate is non-conductive. The backplate for the Hyper 6 has a non-conductive sticker on it. Make sure to keep it on if youve got one... If the lines are exposed even with the back-plate on perhaps you should cover them with some non-conductive (100% non conductive!) tape or something.
Then it doesnt matter if they are exposed, as long as they are ok.
A good tip, which got when i was removing my backplate, is to use a blow dryer to heat it up and the remove it with your fingers. That way youll also notice if it gets to hot
The glue gets sticky at blow drier temps. And pls, dont singe the MB with your blow dryer, you only have to make it hot, and if you cant touch it, how can you remove it with your fingers?
I guess theres no way of telling if you have a serious prob and no way to tell if your cpu will be ok. I guess you could (?) try and start it wíthout anything (cpu, mems) but a PSU, and then, if it (and maybe the PSU) goes "!Pfsssssss!" or "bang!", youll now you will have to replace it.
I put a screwdriver through an asus board once, and it still worked...

MSI K8N Neo Platinum and hyperttransport

Can someone please explain to me how MSI K8N Neo Platinum uses hypertransport? What is the option in the bios for hypertransport used for? What is it's advantages/disadvantages?

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Originally posted by Ludic
4 is the multiplier of the Front Side Bus frequency, default of 200MHz.
4 * 200MHz = 800MHz
Since this is a bi-directional bus (like DDR memory) this 800 gets multiplied by 2.
2 * 800MHz = 1600MHz or 1.6GHz
I'm sure you've seen AMD advertise a 1600MHz HyperTransport in response to Intel's 800MHz FSB.
To my knowledge, you can't use the 5x multiplier in Socket 754 (unless you underclock the Front Side Bus?)
The 5x will be available on Socket 939.
Ah. That's very enlightening. Thanks for the info.

MSI K8N Neo Platinum Nforce3 250GB - PSU?

My sister in law have this board, MSI K8N Neo Platinum nforce3 250gb chipset, recently the power supply sounds noisy and a high frequency sound from the Antec Truepower 380W SP. Had maked an RMA to Antec and they had agreed to replace the 380W psu with SmartPower2.0 450W. But they asked me one question, that im not sure about:
"Make sure that your motherboard does not need the -5V. If you want more information on the power supply you can look at this link: http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=26450 "
So, do Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W suits this board and what really is -5V for? As I read the manual, it said ATX 20 pin power connector: JWR1 and at pin 18: -5V
So does it mean this board need a psu that gives -5V on ATX 20 pin power connector and thos board can't use with Antecs SP 2.0 450W?

Quote from: syar2003 on 22-February-06, 05:10:37
Hi!
The K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) doesn't use -5v to anything.
So the -5v from the old atx spesification is not needed in your case.
WoW, thanks for fast reply!
So, it won't be any problem to use Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W with this board then? Want to make sure about it, before accept Antecs offer for replacement and had spent over 4 days to find the problem with his computer. Really don't want to do it again.
This is his riggs:
Antec Sonata
AMD 64 3000+ S754
Corsair Value S. PC3200 DDR 512MB
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 250GB SATA
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 IDE 160GB
Sapphire Radeon 9550 Atlantis 128MB DDR
and
Accton ethernet card on PCI slot
MSI D-Bracket2
so
With the "new" Antec SmartPower 2.0 450W
Any problem with this rigg and PSU?
edit:
Dound this post that it said the board do need -5V and now Im confused?
http://www.archivaty.net/forums/about12964-30.html

MSI K8N NEO platinum and MOBILE chips

I just found out a problem with MSI K8N NEO Platinum.
I recently upgraded my cpu from Clawhammer DTR 3200+ 1.5V to Clawhammer Mobile 3400+ 1.4V (hoping for better overclocking). To my surprise the mainboard can no longer raise the VCore voltage over 1.45V (it doesn’t matter if I select in the bios 1.5 or 1.55V). The only working option is raising de VCore by 3.3% 5% 8.3% 10%, resulting in a maximum VCore of 1.45 + 1.45 x 10% = 1.6V
I did some googeling and found there is a VCore issue with the K8N NEO and mobile chips, although DTR chips are fully supported (working VCore and multiplier adjustments).
I am using the latest beta bios 1.56B (moded by Pinochio)
Did any of you found a way to resolve this problem? IT IS DRIVING ME INSANE!!!

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