K8N Neo Platinum issue, computer does not boot..

Hello,
I’m going to try to be as thorough as possible here… :D
Recently I reinstalled Windows Xp (32-bit version) on my computer to speed things up again like it used to be. I did an updated on the BIOS while I was at it as well, through the Live Update tool downloaded from the msi.com.tw website. The install went well, no errors. The next day while playing WoW the computer began acting weird and computer froze during gameplay. After that the computer had artefacts, strange disturbance on the screen making it impossible to see anything on the screen. So I thought that maybe since the screen looked all messed up it was definitely the graphics card that was about to die and so I sent the gfx to the retailer and they checked it thoroughly for errors without finding any, while they were at it they also checked my RAM and they also came out clean.
A few days ago when my Gfx and RAM came back I inserted them back onto the mobo and when turning on the powerswitch nothing happened… I therefore tried to solve the problem myself and began reinserting all the computer parts piece after piece and well the computer started at least with the fans going and all but after a few seconds it shuts down again.
When I plug in the power cable the PSU makes a clicking sound, don’t know if that’s normal but haven’t noticed it before.
To maybe help you guys when helping me I installed the d-bracket (the usb thingy with 4 led’s ^^) which shows 4 red lights when starting the computer and lasts until the computer shuts down. According to the d-bracket FAQ it means: “- The D-LED will hang here if the processor is damaged or not installed properly or you have a weak Power Supply Unit.”
Well I reinstalled the cpu, put on new thermal grease so I don’t think that is the problem and the computer has been working fine for more than one year until now... How do I know if it’s the PSU or if the cpu is damaged? Could the motherboard been damaged after Live update’s flash? And what could have caused the artefacts on my screen the other day? Errors with the newest nVidia gfx drivers? I’m very confused :S
What should I do?
Thank you for your help!
Computer specs:
Amd 64 3400+ with Zalman cpu fan(can’t remember which one, one with only Cu heatsink + fanmate)
1 GB (2x512MB) Corsair 3200
1x 74GB Western Digital Raptor 10k RPM S-ATA + 1x 200GB P-ATA Maxtor
Gainward nVidia 6800GT Golden Sample 256 MB
MSI K8N Neo Platinum Nforce3 250GB
Antec True 380SP, 380W (came with my enclosure Antec Sonata I, www.antec.com)

Hi again..
I've now received a new PSU from Antecs RMA department. A TruePower 2.0 380W. My computer still doesn't work. 4 Red LED's when trying to boot it up. But I have noticed one thing since last time I wrote here. Remember what I was saying that I upgraded my BIOS through LiveUpdate? When I later checked my motherboard I noticed the CMOS pins around JBAT1(I think) was incorrectly placed. Instead of having them on either 1,2(to keep settings) or 1,3(to clear CMOS) they were placed right next to the JBAT1 pins, on something that wasn't named or explained in my manual. Maybe that is the reason my computer is acting strange? I mean the BIOS could maybe not have properly been saved or something. :/
I'm too inexperienced to know if that had anything to do with my recent computer isssues, but maybe you guys know. Would that screwup by me be covered by my warranty?
If that pins-placed-wrong-on-the-mobo problem doesn't have anything to do with my problem that leaves me with the 4 LEDs from the D-bracket showing a broken CPU or PSU(it's brand new, shouldn't be any problem with it!). So a damaged CPU it is.
Anyone of you got an idea? Been away from my computer for too long. This is getting annoying.
Thanks.
/Christopher

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Quote from: Supershanks on 23-May-05, 13:59:17
i've no particular interest in wake up technology but my neo platinum wakes up immediately i touch key or mouse, always has so i guess i'ts not bios based.
Is this wake from S1 or S3 state, or wake from hibernate? As I understand it, the PC is off when it is hibernating. The BIOS options only provide for the ability to wake up from sleep using the mouse/keyboard. There are no options to turn on the PC using the mouse/keyboard. I know the nForce3 250GB can do it, because I have a Soltek K8AN2E+ board in my other machine, which does allow me to wake from the off-state.
At the moment, continuous pressing of keys and clicking the mouse does absolutely nothing. It wakes the machine up from sleep (non hibernate) but not from hibernate or power off.
Do any MSI reps frequent these forums? Can they tell me specifically whether the MSI Neo Platinum does have the ability to turn on the PC using the mouse or keyboard, as opposed to merely waking it up from sleep? If this board cannot do this (and it would be one of the very few that can't), then it's useless to me. Having to walk up to the HTPC machine in the lounge room just to turn it on is counterproductive.

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