K8n Neo Platinum MS-7030; freezes during OS install

I am an experienced builder, I have built dozens of systems and even trained people to build their own. I am also an experienced forum user (new to this board) I have searched extensively on this subject and tried every suggestion I have found. Alas I am still having a problem.
My System is
K8N NEO Platinum MS-7030 ver 1
Athlon 64 300+ Newcastle
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) (PC 3200) VS1GBKIT400
2xWestern Digital Caviar SE WD1600JD 160GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard
Pioneer  DVR-108
I built this system in November 2004, for my cousin and his family. It installed XP Sp2 and has never given the slightest hint of a problem.
My cousin bought a OEM version of x64 so we could finally make it into the 64-bit system it is intended to be. We backed up his files and formatted the hard drive, he also bought the second hard-drive so we can make it a raid-0 system.
I flashed the bios to 1.70 and all seemed well. Install keeps freezing. I tried to reinstall XP32 still freezes intermittently. I have tried all of the f6 driver installs, in 32 and 64 bit. I have tried PCI and AGP cards, I have tried one sided PC3200 memory. I tried an IDE hard-drive. I have even tried using my Power-man 450 watt server PS that has been running my Dual athlon server for three years. I have tried enabling and disabling every bios setting available, I have tried underclocking the memory and dis-abling cache in the bios. Currently the board is on the table, with one stick of memory, the processor, and an old creative PCI graphics card with a seagate 20gb IDE hardrive, it still freezes. I have tried raisng and lowering voltage for the CPU and memory. I have even back tracked to the original bios, and tried every bios in between, setting and resetting every option in bios, with each, I have made dozens of attempts, and read hundreds of posts here, including Raid tutorials and installing XP  tutorials. It won't even install XP32. Any other suggestions before I RMA?

Nice to hear it helped .
Flashing between different bios generations sometimes needs a full flash with bootbloack/dmi/and reset during/after flash (not only awflxxx biosrom and enter ) 
this because they are sometimes completly reworked .
I always use the full commandline option also with the /f switch and it's never given me probles switching between very old and very new versions .
Some don't like to reflash the bootblock though , but sometimes it should be , as it has changed trough some versions .
Same goes for winflash , always markes bootblock/dmi/update all/and cmos reset .
The nice thing about winflash is if the flash goes wrong it's just to kill it through taskmanager and try over until you get a successfull flash .
As long as you don't shut down or restart your computer it's working even with the mainblock erased .
Experienced this myself today , when trying 1.9b6mod for neo2 .
Mainblock was erased and new programming stopped at 22% .
So i downloaded from internet another winflash version (1.0.0.1) and was able to reprogram back to 1.8R2mod by tictac .
For the 64bits I had the same problems while testing/running it with the beta version back in january (not tried XP64 with the newest retail version and newest nvidia xp64 drivers) .
It installed fine on single drive but bsod'ed with raid-0 .
Try making a new custom floppy with the latest nv-ide/nv-raid drivers on it , and
recreate the array with "clear disk data" and the option to set as bootable .
Have the sata ports set at "sata dma enabled" in bios .
It's also different depending on which sata ports you are using .
Sata port 1/2 is connected to the nv-chipset though the chip-link to the marvell extrenal PHY for the drives
and port 3/4 use the internal integrated nvidia PHY .
So you can have different results depending on if you create the array on port 1/2 or port 3/4 .

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    Test Beds: I use some programs I 've written in order to have a comperative analysis of my CPU. Hopefully, when this problem is fixed I will provide you with some useful feedback. This is the least I can do for your help.
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     - Dimis -

    Quote from: Supershanks on 16-May-05, 22:50:21
    the memory settings in cpu-z looked like the timings used by corsair memory modules, which is why i suggested the memory voltage of 2.7v as a lot of people have problems from running memory @ auto voltage.(2.5v) it's a common oversight.
    Very impressive must admit i pulled a homer, eyes started glazing over towards the end of the theory   
    Have tried running your hurdles cubic perm17.in in a command prompt window but it doesn't work for me sorry.
    you might like to try Super Pi which performs a similar function to your program.  Unfortunately the link seems to be broken at the minute Super Pi, Post Your Times
    You might find it here Kanada Laboratory home page - See FTP Link If you can get it run it & hopefully you can then find some comparisons
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    I want to thank you all guys for your feedback. Especially you Shanks for your links. At least these showed me that things were not as bad as I initially thought of on my machine! 
    So I had more guidance on the investigation of my initial problem (hurdles). I 've updated the page which now consists of new information. Perhaps you would all like to have a look again and observe something reaaaaallly strange. I would like to hear your explanations since I am only speculating ...
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    AMD Processors - Comperative Analysis
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    Regards,
     - Dimis -

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    I tried this and got it to flash something on the screen for a second about a failed BIOS Checksum and something about floppy drive A: I then made a floppy with the 1.7 BIOS on it and the flash utility set to run in autoexec and tried putting that in the floppy. I can tell that it starts to read to floppy right when that messge comes up, but it then immediately shuts off. Any ideas on how to make it not shut itself off and actually flash the BIOS?
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  • Good News For K8N Neo Platinum Users!!!

       Ok, after fiddling with my BIOS for almost 2 days now, and scanning the forums for a solution, I contacted MSI Technical Support in California, USA. They are sending me a new BIOS chip, free of charge, so anyone having a severe problem with BIOS revisions 1.8 and 1.9 on the K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) please give tech support a call, I let them know I would be posting this in the forum and they will be inandated with phone calls, but woohoo, they are sending a new chip pre-flashed with BIOS revision 1.7.
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      What good news?  UK based MSI did not offer any such replacement bios after my problems updating to 1.8 bios.
    I purchased a new bios chip with 1.9 bios from a UK supplier.....after fitting the bios I returned to the same problems as before, failure to boot past post and freezing in bios menu. I then remembered another post on this sight and removed one stick of memory......everything back to normal    .I have just fitted a 1gb Corsair cas 2 memory and all seems well I will save my 2X 512 Corsair XL my next project which will not be a MSI Motherboard  
    MSI UK  have not come out of this very well and from the posts that I have read there are quite a few people out there with problems. Many thanks to all those who posted on this,  it certainly helps to know that you are not the only one with problems.
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    Quote from: syar2003 on 22-February-06, 05:10:37
    Hi!
    The K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) doesn't use -5v to anything.
    So the -5v from the old atx spesification is not needed in your case.
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