K8N Neo Platinum not passing POST

Hello,
I have just bought an MSI K8N Neo Platinum OEM and it will not pass POST. I have gone through all the items in the Sticky section, but still it won't pass. I don't know what to do.
Here's the hardware I have hooked up:
MSI K8N Neo Platinum motherboard (has "MS-7030 VER:1" written on it)
Athlon 64 3000+ CPU, 512 K L2 Cache (ADA3000AEP4AP)
Kingston RAM (KVR400X64C3A/512)
Radeon 7200 graphics card (about 4 years old)
Seasonic S12 380 PSU
Thermalright XP-90 heatsink w/ 90mm Nexus fan
I have hooked up the 24-pin power cable to the 20-pin motherboard slot using the 24-to-20 pin adaptor supplied with the PSU.
The 12v 4-pin CPU power cable is also plugged in.
The graphics card is plugged into the AGP slot. There is no other power connection needed.
I have installed the CPU with a Thermalright XP90 heatsink and a Nexus 90 mm quiet fan.
I have hooked up the fan to the motherboard C_FAN1 slot.
I have installed the RAM (Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512) into DIMM slot 1.
I attached the case fans to the power supply and hooked up the case speaker.
I have also hooked up the front panel power and reset switches.
I bought the motherboard OEM, so it did not include a D-bracket. I have built a pseudo-D-bracket using two-colour LEDs and plugged it into the D-bracket slot.
With this work done, I plugged in the power supply. The power supply has an on/off switch on the back. As soon as I turn on the switch, the computer tries to boot up. All the fans start spinning (power supply, CPU cooler, case fans, video card fan). Nothing appears on the screen. The case speaker emits a long beep, waits about 5 seconds, then beeps again, and continues this pattern forever. The documentation says that this indicates a memory issue.
My homemade D-bracket shows the following: initially, all the LEDs are red. Then, the LED across JLED1 pins 7 & 8 turns green (with all other LEDs red). I assume that this corresponds to LED 1 being lit, although it really looks like it should be LED 4. Next, the LED across JLED1 pins 5 & 6 turns green (with all other LEDs red). Once again, I assume this corresponds to LED 2 being lit, although it looks like it should be LED 3. I looked this up and the documentation indicates a memory error. To solve the problem, I have tried the following things:
1. Hitting reset. Same boot sequence.
2. Clearing the CMOS using the JBAT1 jumper. I left the jumper at "clear data" for about 10 minutes, then switched it back. Same boot sequence as before.
3. Clearing the CMOS by removing the battery. I left the battery out for 3 minutes, then 30 minutes, then 8 hours. Same boot sequence.
4. Removing the motherboard from the case. I placed the motherboard on the anti-static bag it came in. Repeated steps 1, 2 and 3. Nothing.
5. Move the RAM to DIMM slot 2 or 3. Tried steps 1, 2 and 3 again. The boot-up sequence was the same.
6. Different RAM. I have also tried using OCZ 400 MHz 512MB unbuffered DDR memory (OCZ400512V3). Performed steps 1-5 with identical results.
7. No RAM. Same boot problem.
8. No video card. Ditto.
9. No RAM or video card. Exactly the same as before.
As far as I can tell, all components are supported. The only item I am very unsure of is the graphics card. I do not have the exact specifications on it. When it is in my other computer, the driver details identify it only as a "Radeon 7200". However, it does have the "golden finger" shown at www.msicomputer.com/support/sup_tshoot.asp#1_3. Even if the video card is not compatible, it seems like the beep codes and D-bracket codes both indicate memory issues.
The only thing that I have noticed that is weird (other than the fact that the computer won't pass POST) is that when I turn on the power supply, the computer immediately boots up. I don't know whether or not this is normal.
Lastly, I do not know the current BIOS version. Is it possible that the BIOS is an early version that does not support my memory/CPU/video card? I bought the mobo OEM, so I do not know what BIOS it has loaded. Is there some way I can figure this out without passing POST? This is driving me absolutely insane.
Thank you for your help,
Kyle Renwick

Make sure the fan you are using for the xp90 is supporting RPM readouts .
Then try another AGP gfx card , sometimes you can have a no post due to that the graphics adapter wont start .
Take the system bare bone ( mobo + cpu + ram + gfx )
Have any award beep codes ? , note them down and decode them against
http://bioscentral.com/beepcodes/awardbeep.htm
Still stuck !
Remove AGP + ram too .
The mobo shall beep (endless beeping )
Insert the ram , the mobo shall beep - missing gfx .
Got this far and you know cpu + memory initialize but have problems with gfx or other devices
later in the post/init process .
Do not have any usb devices connected to internal or external connectors ,
note that the USBOC pin un JUSB1/JUSB2 is NOT to be connected .
Also try altering between ps2 and usb keyboard as this also has caused non post situation for people .

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I finally tired of my old PC and decided to go for a new AMD64+ system. I ordered these components:
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bump. Hi gcb, welcome You'll soon get an answer from a K8N Neo Plat owner. In meantime, pls post your full stats in your sig {add a sig to your "profile"}. Help us help you.
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If you could tell us you entire system specs....That means everything and how you have it installed and setup...
Stats are posted, but as I mentioned, even the barest possible setup with a RAM stick and videocard refuses to work. That's without keyboard, mouse and hard disk.
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Originally posted by NewNeo
What you describe is how my so-called "cold-boot" problem began. Eventually, I was able to get a boot, but subsequently, anytime the PC was powered-off and left off for a few minutes, then powered-on, the PC would behave in exactly the same way you describe here.
I have since RMAd the board and ordered (additionally) an ASUS K8N-E Deluxe which will be here Monday; I ordered Friday from NewEgg and a check of Fedex indicates that the ASUS package is already at the local dock. My sense from these forums is that the NEO has too many issues to ever satisfy me as an owner, including the ones I have personally experienced and the ones I have only read about. Thus, I'm trying the ASUS. If all goes well with the ASUS, I'll have an extra, brand-new in the box MSI K8N Neo.
See here for some descriptions of my MSI Neo "cold-boot" problem:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threa...htuser=0&page=1
You may find additional info by searching on my forum psuedonym.
As far as a fix, I just kept wrestling with it till it would finally boot (off/on, disconnecting / reconnecting leads, etc .... nothing ever consistantly did the trick) but I always manged sooner or later to get a boot. Pressing and holding the DEL key or quickly tapping the DEL key as the PC was powered-on seemed to have some connection with success, but only after many failures of the same thing. As I said, very inconsistant. A warm boot, once the PC was running, usually went fine, barring any other unrelated issues.
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Damn, that's a bad experience. I haven't tried banging keys around, perhaps I should try that.
I had a chat with another guy who had a problem akin to this. In his case, the BIOS was borked. I'm really not sure if I'm going to ask for a new Neo board or go for the Gigabyte one instead if I can't fix it.
Funny how I never had any trouble with Via boards before while nForce3 is a general bad experience for me

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MSI k8n neo platinum hangs after post single beep

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Core2Duo E6400 would be a gain of about 15% compared to 4000+ ( in games 1024x768, no aniso or aa). Quality options and better resolution would shorten the gain. Other applications than games e.g. cinebench would run a lot faster on the C2D. The main advantage compared to the 4000+ would be dual core because many future games will be optimized for this. Question is: Is this worth $272?
With only one 7600GT installed you won't be able to play most of the new games in full detail because of lacking 3d power although Core2Duo installed. The gain of cpu performance will be therefor useless (if main focus is on gaming). 7600GT sli-array would be an option for full detail and using more cpu power but it would also be slower than one 7950GT for nearly the same amount of money spent for 2 7600GT.
1. If you need a gaming pc I'd only buy a new C2D if you can also afford high end vga. Otherwise cpu power is wasted.
2. 7600GT is only an option if you want to save money now and you want a second one later. Buying two now to get a sli-array isn't very clever. Less performance than 7950GT, same price.
3. Buying one gig of ddr2 isn't very clever either. More and more applications need more than 1 gig (for example vista!). When changing to ddr2, change to 2 gig dual channel kit.
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Motherboard came with AMD Athlon64 3400+ (2ghz) and heatsink.
What it's doing: Flick power switch on the power supply, system comes on automatically, all fans spin up, power LED comes on, all 3 LED's on ps2 keyboard flash for a second, then no video.. yet one steady beep in the PC Speaker, it just repeats the beep every couple seconds.
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Tried generic single stick of DDR-333 1gb ram in slot DDR1, tried slot DDR2, tried slot DDR3, same error
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Tried a single 512mb-400 stick in DDR1, DDR2, DDR3, same beep, same no video.
Tried a both 512mb-400 sticks in DDR1+DDR2, DDR2+DDR3, DDR1+DDR3, same beep, same no video.
Two video cards I have: Riva TNT2 32mb, and ATI Radeon 9800 XT 256mb. Both video cards come up and show video and work normally in a AMD Slot-A motherboard I have in another chassis, so I know they work. I've tried each one, with both the generic 333 ram, and the corsair ram, still beep, still no video.
I've cleared the cmos with the jumper and all power off... left it for 5 minutes that way, then put the jumper back, and reconnected power, tried again, same beep, same no video. I'm now trying leaving it with the battery removed and the power removed, and I'll leave it sitting for about an hour until after dinner then try again.
Power supply being used: RAIDMAX 380 watt: 26A +3.3v, 29A +5v, 18A +12v, 0.5A -5v, 0.8A -12v, 2A +5Vsb
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Do the "Neo" line of motherboards some how absolutely require higher-end power supplies to perform basic functions like just powering on?
Can anyone think of anything I'm missing here? perhaps I have a corrupted bios some how in this board? I'm not sure at this point.

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K8N Neo Platinum can't POST

Carried out a memory upgrade which necessitated removing the mobo form the case, and the fan from the heatsink.
When put back together, machine was completely dead.
Not sure how, but have got the machine to start POST. It hangs with a single long beep. The D-bracket shows three red and one green (3), which MSI's website shows is keyboard controller initialization.
Keyboard itself is good, a change to a known-good video card produces the same symptoms as does two different sets of DIMMs.
Derek

Hello !
Test your motherboard outside the case on a woodden table with minimum hardware config. Remove everything except:
Power On Switch,Power Supply Cables, CPU & Cooler, Graphics. Card, 1 RAM Module in slot 1, 1 HDD & 1 optical drive. Recheck if the Cooler has 100% contact with your Cpu. Now try to get your rig up posting again. If the system works, make sure there is nothing in your case shorting out something, and rebuilt your PC step by step and test after every change you made.
Greetz MurdoK

K8N Neo Platinum driver installation

There are 4 downloadable mainboard driver zips at MSI for K8N Neo Platinum (not including BIOS a upgrade) -
1. NVSA020.zip - SATA controller drivers
2. NF3_CK8S.zip - Chipset drivers including:
Ethernet NRM driver
Network management tools
GART driver
SMBus driver with updated uninstaller files
*Win2K IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
*WinXP IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
3. USB2W9XME009.zip - USB 2.0 drivers
4. ALC69.zip - onboard Realtek audio drivers
*applicable version of Win OS
Are ALL these drivers from MSI to be loaded?
I think I read in some other posts where some of these drivers (?) cause problems and therefore default Win OS (or chipset manufacturer) drivers should be used instead. Is there a concensus (or list) of which drivers should or shouldn't be installed and the correct procedures and order for doing it?
Perion
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MSI K8N Neo Platinum
AMD 64 3200+
Corsair Value Select Mod# VS1GBKIT400
--> 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 CAS Latency 2.5
Western Digital 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Mod# WD1200JD
ATI RADEON 9800PRO 128M
Thermaltake Gaming Tower XaserV Series Mod# V7000+
--> Case Fans: 2 x 80mm, 3 x 90mm
ENERMAX 460W PSU Mod# EG465AX-VE (W)FMA
--> 3.3V@35A, +5V@35A, -5V@1A, +12V@33A, -12V@1A, [email protected]

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Originally posted by Perion
There are 4 downloadable mainboard driver zips at MSI for K8N Neo Platinum (not including BIOS a upgrade) -
1. NVSA020.zip - SATA controller drivers
2. NF3_CK8S.zip - Chipset drivers including:
Ethernet NRM driver
Network management tools
GART driver
SMBus driver with updated uninstaller files
*Win2K IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
*WinXP IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
3. USB2W9XME009.zip - USB 2.0 drivers
4. ALC69.zip - onboard Realtek audio drivers
*applicable version of Win OS
Are ALL these drivers from MSI to be loaded?
I think I read in some other posts where some of these drivers (?) cause problems and therefore default Win OS (or chipset manufacturer) drivers should be used instead. Is there a concensus (or list) of which drivers should or shouldn't be installed and the correct procedures and order for doing it?
1. NVSA020.zip, these drivers come in a diskete with your mainboard as well but possibly on an earlier version. You will need these if you plan to use a SATA Raid/ or simply a SATA drive when installing your OS of choice. Please note that if you plan to use a single SATA drive use SATA 3 or 4. In this case the drivers are not necessary but rather optional.
2. These are the nforce platform drivers. You can either use the ones off the msi site or the ones from nvidia's site. In any case i would suggest you replace the IDE driver package with the 2.5's -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_ide_4.15_win2KXP.html
3. if you plan updating to a sp 1 or 2 versionof xp, you will probably not need these.
4. ALC69.zip - > Here is the latest realtek drivers.

K8N Neo Platinum & Thermaltake Kandalf Tower

I just bought a Thermaltake Kandalf tower and put my K8n Neo Platinum Mobo in it but I am having troubles with wiring the top panel of the tower to the mobo.
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Originally posted by Perion
There are 4 downloadable mainboard driver zips at MSI for K8N Neo Platinum (not including BIOS a upgrade) -
1. NVSA020.zip - SATA controller drivers
2. NF3_CK8S.zip - Chipset drivers including:
Ethernet NRM driver
Network management tools
GART driver
SMBus driver with updated uninstaller files
*Win2K IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
*WinXP IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
3. USB2W9XME009.zip - USB 2.0 drivers
4. ALC69.zip - onboard Realtek audio drivers
*applicable version of Win OS
Are ALL these drivers from MSI to be loaded?
I think I read in some other posts where some of these drivers (?) cause problems and therefore default Win OS (or chipset manufacturer) drivers should be used instead. Is there a concensus (or list) of which drivers should or shouldn't be installed and the correct procedures and order for doing it?
1. NVSA020.zip, these drivers come in a diskete with your mainboard as well but possibly on an earlier version. You will need these if you plan to use a SATA Raid/ or simply a SATA drive when installing your OS of choice. Please note that if you plan to use a single SATA drive use SATA 3 or 4. In this case the drivers are not necessary but rather optional.
2. These are the nforce platform drivers. You can either use the ones off the msi site or the ones from nvidia's site. In any case i would suggest you replace the IDE driver package with the 2.5's -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_ide_4.15_win2KXP.html
3. if you plan updating to a sp 1 or 2 versionof xp, you will probably not need these.
4. ALC69.zip - > Here is the latest realtek drivers.

K8N Neo Platinum hangs at "Initializing Keyboard Controller" step in POST

Hi Folks,
Here is my system:
MSI K8N Neo Platinum (New in box) (no clue on bios version, as I can't access it yet)
Athlon 64 3200+ 2200Mhz, 640Kb Cache
Thermaltake CL-P0025 Silent Tower CPU Cooler (VERY careful installing this)
2x512MB Mushkin 991460 EM3200 400Mhz DDR (
ATI AIW Pro X800XT (AGP)
OCZ ModStream 450W PS (3.3/28A, 5/45A, 12/26A, 220W/312W)
WD 74GB Raptor
Plextor 712A DVD/CD (SATA)
Here is my dilema: box powers up, POST stops at "Initializing Keyboard Controller". ( I know this because the little lights on the D-bracket tell me so.....:-) I have been on these forums as well as AMD's forums all day now, and have tried everything suggested, except swapping PS. But I think I have an adequate model.
One by one, I have disconnected any sources of possible problems. I have reset my bios too many times to count. I have isolated the MB outside of the case. I have re-seated everything numerous times. I changed Bios battery. I've swapped RAM, and it's positions. Even took it all off. I even bought another K8N from Ebay, and have the exact same results. At no time has the status lights displayed anything different, except for a quick change in color of light number 3 when I do a front-panel reset. Right now I have nothing but the processor on the board and I still have the same result; POST hanging at "Initializing keyboard controller". I have swapped keyboards unplugged the keyboard.
I am leaning toward the processor now. What am I missing? Should I just do an RMA and be done with it?
Suggestions encouraged......
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Quote from: sincity337 on 04-August-05, 12:22:07
Bowen,
I've got an old Asus P2B that still runs like a champ, although slow by todays standards. You are right about it being rock solid, I have never had a problem with it, not one. As a matter of fact I still have it and I use it for my "linux box". Oops, a little off topic.
Anyway, it looks like MSI received the board today. I will start the stopwatch and see how long it takes to get a replacement board. I'll keep you guys posted.
James
Yeah those boards were the best I've seen. The Intel 865 chipsets are pretty good too. My previous 845 based mobo was nice as well. In the past, using VIA boards have been hit and miss with me. The K8T800/Pro and K8T900/Pro seem to be very stable though...still I would get an nForce 4 chipset over the newest VIA boards.
This is OT but I just received my shiny new BFG GeForce 7800 GTX OC card a few days ago and I was very surprised at it's performance. I was using a crappy Radeon X300 because I needed a temp card until I could buy either a 7800 GTX or the upcoming Radeon X900 XT. My last system I had a Radeon 9800 Pro and it ran flawlessly. I only had one problem with that card and it was driver related to only one game. The game was Call of Duty and that issue was resolved by going down to an older driver, but then ATi corrected the problem with a new driver release. Anyway as fast as the 7800 GTX is, I hated it! The reason is that despite it's awesome speed; the only way I can put it, is that it doesn't run games as smooth as Radeon's do. It was especially bad with Battlefield 2. This is ironic because BF2 is supposed to be optimized for nVidia cards.
It has a bad stuttering problem with BF2 and allot of people have this issue. Some have this problem with ATi cards but most are nVidia users. Even when I set the quality down to the same settings as my 9800P was at, it did the same thing. Other games like Counter-Strike: Source ran fine unless you had bots. Heh, even my slow X300 ran games more smoothly (not faster and at a much lower resolution and quality setting but still smoother) than the 7800 GTX. I sent the card back and I'm getting a full refund. I'm waiting on ATi to release their X900 XT and I'll buy that. What's strange is that prior to buying my 9800P two years ago, I had only used nVidia cards since the TnT2. Well times have changed I guess. Oh well, I guess I had to learn the hard way, but at least this way I know I'm getting the right card!

MSI k8n neo platinum post problem

I just bought a 2nd hand K8N neo platinum and I can't get it to post, I have reduced down to 1 stick of ram(tried all slots) vga and cpu running out of case. I have an ultra 600 psu that certainly should be doing the buisness as everything was fine on an NF7S-V2 up until 1/2 hour prior.
On the led device it's starting 4 red then after a couple of seconds it goes 1 red 2 red 3 green 4 red which I found relates to keyboard controller. I've tried with various keyboards but no joy. I get nothing on the screen at all but that's the next stage in post.
My memory is Twinmos 3200 twin x 2 x 512 double sided, which I saw in the sticky can be troublesome.
Any body got any ideas?

i am having an almost identical problem.
First the system wont go past post,then i realised it would but only boot if i had the USB mouse unplugged (i noticed the d-brackets lights changed after i unplugged the mouse)
then i was able to get to windows, however i couldn't do much (mouse wouldnt detect if replugged, keyboard not detected - all lights off)
So i tried clearing the CMOS
now i am having the same problem, except this time i get CMOS checksum error - defaults loaded
then it tells me to press f1 to continue to del to enter setup, which i cant do since the keyboard wont work. so now im totally bamboozled
I've tried changing the PSU as well with no luck (both were 500watts)
Funny thing is, the pc having the problem is identical to the pc im writing on now, presonally i think the motherboard is not v good, since alot of people have this problem or similar to it. (and yes im using the keyboard and mouse now, that i tested on the other pc)
SPECS:
MSI k8N Neo Platinum
Powercolor Radeon 9800 Pro
AMD 64 3000+
1GB Geil Memory
Maxtor 160GB
500watt Magna Dual Fans
Will check what the D-bracket says and will report back.
ok here goes:
(with usb mouse plugged in)
1= green
2= red
3=red
4=green
(without usb mouse plugged in) - but bare in mind i cant press f1 (no keyboard) to continue else i would probably be able to get to windows.
1= green
2= green
3=green
4=red

K8N Neo Platinum, NO POST

I have 2 known good Athlon 64 3400+ CPUs.
CPU#1 is a ClawHammer SH7-C0
CPU#2 is a NewCastle DH7-CG
The problem is as follows:
CPU#1 works and is stable on the board, (MSI K8N Neo Platinum, 7030)
CPU#2 will not POST on the same board, D-Bracket gives all reds except from #3, according to the manual this is 'Initializing Keyboard Controller'.
And the speaker gives 1 long beep, follow by a pause (Indicating RAM error, RAM is known good, and tried with different sticks too)
Since CPU#1 worked on the board, i figured CPU#2 must be broked, so i RMA it, and it returned with 'No errors'.
I have tried most everything known to man:
Reseat the CPU, RAM, *
Boot with the board out of the case
Update bios (Have latest, 1.6)
Reset bios by JBAT and remove battery
New and different RAM
You name it, i've tried it.
Except for RMA the board, could the board really be broked? It works with the ClawHammer...
I'm going nuts.

I've got the same motherboard running with a Newcastle. The only difference between you Newcastle and Clawhammer would be the level 2 cache. That isn't going to have any effect on the cpu working in your system. You cleared the bios so the bios should automatically detect the level 2 cache on the new cpu. I use bios 1.5 on mine. The 1.6 bios is very new. It is only supposed to effect cpu identification, but with a new bios who knows. Did you try the 1.5 bios that's been out a while and is well tested? I don't believe it's the motherboard or it wouldn't work with the clawhammer. Who tested that Newcastle and said it was good? I wonder if they really tested it in a live system? Bad cpu gets my bet.

K8N Neo Platinum - No post ... help!

Hey folks,
Refer to this thread for info ... Help ... my pc won't turn on!
I'll start off with the system specs so you'll have an idea of what I'm going to be talking about :
AMD Athlon64 3000+
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
Corsair CMX-512 PC3200
WD 160gb SATA
MSI 5900xt
Antec SmartBlue 350w
So I bought the parts ... 2 months ago. I used it for about 1 month ...ran like a dream. Died ... RMA'ed the motherboard, and a month later, I get it. I assemble the system, doesn't post the first time I turn it on. Shut it off, posts ... attempts to log onto the Windows partition that is on the hard drive i used it with ... gets into Windows logon screen, and crashes. On several occasions, I noticed the system switched off on its on for some reason. Switch off the system, try again, and it crashes. Switch it off (by holding on the case switch, then switching off the power supply). This time, I switch the PS back on again, and the system fans start, but nothing comes on screen, or posts. I noticed on the video card, the fan starts up, but then stops after it realizes that the system hasn't posted (heatsink is cool). I know the video card works because I just pulled it out of my spare system ... and it works just fine. I have no idea what is going on. I don't know what to do. Any help is greatly apprecitated.
Quite frankly, I am rather dissappointed with MSI at the moment. I fork out my hard earned money for a good motherboard, it dies out of the blue for no reason, I RMA it, and a MONTH later, i get a crappy refurb (looks quite used too!). Is there any customer satisfaction involved? I would like to get on the phone and actually talk to some one about this.
Thanks guys!

Just remembered to attach the diagnostic d-bracket. I get red, red, green, red.
Hopefully this'll help.
EDIT: So I cleared the CMOS. I can get the system to POST now. This posting thing is still iffy ... posts sometimes, and decides not to at other times. Only problem is, is a stability problem. I managed to get the system to boot into the WinXP install I had before. Just freezes out of the blue. Also froze when I tried to install a new copy of windows. Freezes on random occasions. The motherboard I had previously booted on first try, and installed without any problems. It never froze, or crash. Why would this motherboard crash?
Also found that the fan on the v-card does not spin when it is not active. It spins fine when there is something displayed on the monitor.
Bios is V1.4. CPU temp at around 38-40°C. NB temp at around 28-30°C. Temps seem to be normal.

K8N Neo Platinum RMA and Processor RMA...Still No Post

I recently RMA'd my MSI K8N Neo Platinum nForce3 board after trying all the stickied information at the top.
I received the board and still my system did not post....soooo, I RMA'd the processor (AMD 64 3000+) and got a new one.
I just tried to put my system back together and still no post.
My Video card (Radeon 9800 Pro) and Ram (OCZ 512) test out ok in another computer (not an AMD 64)
I also recently purchased a new 450 Watt Power Supply.
However, when I put everything together, it doesn't post and doesn't beep. The D-Bracket for the record is all Red LEDs, although I've read some threads that say that doesn't necessarily mean the processor is dead/seated incorrectly.
Help me! Thanks.

Try another keyboard , disconnect jusb1/jusb2 internal connections to case front panel or multicard reader device .
Also try to get the system to post without any hd/opticals connected to ide or sata ports .
After changing/disconnecting things do a cmos reset and try again .
There must be something in your rig preventing post if yo've received a new mobo from rma , and cpu too .

K8N Neo Platinum - CnQ not working -SOLVED

I've updated my bios to ver 1.56 (beta) and now cnq is working!
Hello,
I cannot get cool 'n'quiet to work. My system is:
AMD Athlon 64 2800+ (Newcastle) - Family 15 Model 12 Step 0 Revision DH7-CG
MSI K8N NEO Platinum motherboard with latest drivers and BIOS ver 1.4
SevenTeam ST-350BKV 350W PSU
512MB Corsair Value PC3200 RAM
GeCube Radeon 9800pro - 128MB
Runing WinXP Pro SP2
I have followed the instructions of the document " Cool ‘n’ Quiet™ Technology Installation Guide for AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor Based Systems":
1) Enabled CNQ in my BIOS - specific selection for this
2) Downloaded Athlon 64 Driver from AMD - checked to make sure default MS WinXP processor driver is replaced with AMD driver.
3) Set power to "Minimum Power Management"
I have tested setup with CPU-Z v1.25 and with wcpuid. CPU multiplier stays locked at 9, voltage stable at 1.47.
I have also installed PowerNow! Dashboard to test the system, but the program refuses to initialize giving me the following message:
"Could not find a valid PSS or PST, bailing.
Failed Initializing, make sure the AMDTools Driver is installed and that this system has a PSS or PST object."
I have formated my harddisk, reinstalled Windows XP sp1, reinstalled all my drivers, and the problem continues.
Thanks.

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Originally posted by itsme
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Originally posted by Deeez
Actually 1.4 bios works best for C&Q.
Funny when people report things like this just because something works for them. Fact is that there are thousands of others which do have cnq problems with this release (me too) and they where fixed with 1.5x. Anyway... no reason to argue.
Well you kind of gave an impression C&Q isn't able to work with bios 1.4...
Anyway if this is the situation someone should add this bios issue to C&Q FAQ cause I believe most of the people still use the latest official bios.

K8N Neo Platinum not passing POST

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