K8N Neo Platinum not working

Hi guys,
I finally tired of my old PC and decided to go for a new AMD64+ system. I ordered these components:
A64 3000+
K8N Neo Platinum
2 x 512 MB Corsair XMS3200 2-3-3-6 RAM
I turn the finished PC on, the fans power on, the harddisks make noise and... nothing. The monitor doesn't recieve a signal. According to the DLED-bracket, it hangs on 'Resource Assignment' every time, just before the harddisks are started.
I have tried just about everything, even booting with only the videocard (both R9700 Pro and GeForce 3), still no dice.
I have tried running only one stick of RAM in the different slots, not a success.
I don't have any other CPU or RAM to test it with, so those options are out.
Another culprit is the PSU, but I have a new Mist (Factory modded Fortron / Source) 480 W PSU capable of 22 Amps at the 12V line, so that shouldn't be the problem. It works with good ratings in my old PC.
Any more ideas? It does look like I will be taking it back on Monday.

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bump. Hi gcb, welcome You'll soon get an answer from a K8N Neo Plat owner. In meantime, pls post your full stats in your sig {add a sig to your "profile"}. Help us help you.
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Originally posted by Jasonxxx
If you could tell us you entire system specs....That means everything and how you have it installed and setup...
Stats are posted, but as I mentioned, even the barest possible setup with a RAM stick and videocard refuses to work. That's without keyboard, mouse and hard disk.
I'm not sure what I can add to that other than saying I can't even get into the BIOS since I get no video.
I forgot one thing: The PC speaker beeps once for about a second. Slightly longer than my old PC did, but not long enough for me to really think about it. Definitely nothing compared to the crescendo I got once when I forgot the extral power to the R9700
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Originally posted by NewNeo
What you describe is how my so-called "cold-boot" problem began. Eventually, I was able to get a boot, but subsequently, anytime the PC was powered-off and left off for a few minutes, then powered-on, the PC would behave in exactly the same way you describe here.
I have since RMAd the board and ordered (additionally) an ASUS K8N-E Deluxe which will be here Monday; I ordered Friday from NewEgg and a check of Fedex indicates that the ASUS package is already at the local dock. My sense from these forums is that the NEO has too many issues to ever satisfy me as an owner, including the ones I have personally experienced and the ones I have only read about. Thus, I'm trying the ASUS. If all goes well with the ASUS, I'll have an extra, brand-new in the box MSI K8N Neo.
See here for some descriptions of my MSI Neo "cold-boot" problem:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threa...htuser=0&page=1
You may find additional info by searching on my forum psuedonym.
As far as a fix, I just kept wrestling with it till it would finally boot (off/on, disconnecting / reconnecting leads, etc .... nothing ever consistantly did the trick) but I always manged sooner or later to get a boot. Pressing and holding the DEL key or quickly tapping the DEL key as the PC was powered-on seemed to have some connection with success, but only after many failures of the same thing. As I said, very inconsistant. A warm boot, once the PC was running, usually went fine, barring any other unrelated issues.
By the way, my D-Bracket error code always hung at one green LED, lower left in the 4 LED array, which I think indicates initialization of the keyboard controller. Whether this was the cause (keyboard controller) or it just happened to be the point in time where some other problem arose which prevented boot is hard to determine.
Damn, that's a bad experience. I haven't tried banging keys around, perhaps I should try that.
I had a chat with another guy who had a problem akin to this. In his case, the BIOS was borked. I'm really not sure if I'm going to ask for a new Neo board or go for the Gigabyte one instead if I can't fix it.
Funny how I never had any trouble with Via boards before while nForce3 is a general bad experience for me

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K8N Neo Platinum not passing POST

Hello,
I have just bought an MSI K8N Neo Platinum OEM and it will not pass POST. I have gone through all the items in the Sticky section, but still it won't pass. I don't know what to do.
Here's the hardware I have hooked up:
MSI K8N Neo Platinum motherboard (has "MS-7030 VER:1" written on it)
Athlon 64 3000+ CPU, 512 K L2 Cache (ADA3000AEP4AP)
Kingston RAM (KVR400X64C3A/512)
Radeon 7200 graphics card (about 4 years old)
Seasonic S12 380 PSU
Thermalright XP-90 heatsink w/ 90mm Nexus fan
I have hooked up the 24-pin power cable to the 20-pin motherboard slot using the 24-to-20 pin adaptor supplied with the PSU.
The 12v 4-pin CPU power cable is also plugged in.
The graphics card is plugged into the AGP slot. There is no other power connection needed.
I have installed the CPU with a Thermalright XP90 heatsink and a Nexus 90 mm quiet fan.
I have hooked up the fan to the motherboard C_FAN1 slot.
I have installed the RAM (Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512) into DIMM slot 1.
I attached the case fans to the power supply and hooked up the case speaker.
I have also hooked up the front panel power and reset switches.
I bought the motherboard OEM, so it did not include a D-bracket. I have built a pseudo-D-bracket using two-colour LEDs and plugged it into the D-bracket slot.
With this work done, I plugged in the power supply. The power supply has an on/off switch on the back. As soon as I turn on the switch, the computer tries to boot up. All the fans start spinning (power supply, CPU cooler, case fans, video card fan). Nothing appears on the screen. The case speaker emits a long beep, waits about 5 seconds, then beeps again, and continues this pattern forever. The documentation says that this indicates a memory issue.
My homemade D-bracket shows the following: initially, all the LEDs are red. Then, the LED across JLED1 pins 7 & 8 turns green (with all other LEDs red). I assume that this corresponds to LED 1 being lit, although it really looks like it should be LED 4. Next, the LED across JLED1 pins 5 & 6 turns green (with all other LEDs red). Once again, I assume this corresponds to LED 2 being lit, although it looks like it should be LED 3. I looked this up and the documentation indicates a memory error. To solve the problem, I have tried the following things:
1. Hitting reset. Same boot sequence.
2. Clearing the CMOS using the JBAT1 jumper. I left the jumper at "clear data" for about 10 minutes, then switched it back. Same boot sequence as before.
3. Clearing the CMOS by removing the battery. I left the battery out for 3 minutes, then 30 minutes, then 8 hours. Same boot sequence.
4. Removing the motherboard from the case. I placed the motherboard on the anti-static bag it came in. Repeated steps 1, 2 and 3. Nothing.
5. Move the RAM to DIMM slot 2 or 3. Tried steps 1, 2 and 3 again. The boot-up sequence was the same.
6. Different RAM. I have also tried using OCZ 400 MHz 512MB unbuffered DDR memory (OCZ400512V3). Performed steps 1-5 with identical results.
7. No RAM. Same boot problem.
8. No video card. Ditto.
9. No RAM or video card. Exactly the same as before.
As far as I can tell, all components are supported. The only item I am very unsure of is the graphics card. I do not have the exact specifications on it. When it is in my other computer, the driver details identify it only as a "Radeon 7200". However, it does have the "golden finger" shown at www.msicomputer.com/support/sup_tshoot.asp#1_3. Even if the video card is not compatible, it seems like the beep codes and D-bracket codes both indicate memory issues.
The only thing that I have noticed that is weird (other than the fact that the computer won't pass POST) is that when I turn on the power supply, the computer immediately boots up. I don't know whether or not this is normal.
Lastly, I do not know the current BIOS version. Is it possible that the BIOS is an early version that does not support my memory/CPU/video card? I bought the mobo OEM, so I do not know what BIOS it has loaded. Is there some way I can figure this out without passing POST? This is driving me absolutely insane.
Thank you for your help,
Kyle Renwick

Make sure the fan you are using for the xp90 is supporting RPM readouts .
Then try another AGP gfx card , sometimes you can have a no post due to that the graphics adapter wont start .
Take the system bare bone ( mobo + cpu + ram + gfx )
Have any award beep codes ? , note them down and decode them against
http://bioscentral.com/beepcodes/awardbeep.htm
Still stuck !
Remove AGP + ram too .
The mobo shall beep (endless beeping )
Insert the ram , the mobo shall beep - missing gfx .
Got this far and you know cpu + memory initialize but have problems with gfx or other devices
later in the post/init process .
Do not have any usb devices connected to internal or external connectors ,
note that the USBOC pin un JUSB1/JUSB2 is NOT to be connected .
Also try altering between ps2 and usb keyboard as this also has caused non post situation for people .

K8N Neo Platinum driver installation

There are 4 downloadable mainboard driver zips at MSI for K8N Neo Platinum (not including BIOS a upgrade) -
1. NVSA020.zip - SATA controller drivers
2. NF3_CK8S.zip - Chipset drivers including:
Ethernet NRM driver
Network management tools
GART driver
SMBus driver with updated uninstaller files
*Win2K IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
*WinXP IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
3. USB2W9XME009.zip - USB 2.0 drivers
4. ALC69.zip - onboard Realtek audio drivers
*applicable version of Win OS
Are ALL these drivers from MSI to be loaded?
I think I read in some other posts where some of these drivers (?) cause problems and therefore default Win OS (or chipset manufacturer) drivers should be used instead. Is there a concensus (or list) of which drivers should or shouldn't be installed and the correct procedures and order for doing it?
Perion
[Soon to build]
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
AMD 64 3200+
Corsair Value Select Mod# VS1GBKIT400
--> 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 CAS Latency 2.5
Western Digital 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Mod# WD1200JD
ATI RADEON 9800PRO 128M
Thermaltake Gaming Tower XaserV Series Mod# V7000+
--> Case Fans: 2 x 80mm, 3 x 90mm
ENERMAX 460W PSU Mod# EG465AX-VE (W)FMA
--> 3.3V@35A, +5V@35A, -5V@1A, +12V@33A, -12V@1A, [email protected]

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Originally posted by Perion
There are 4 downloadable mainboard driver zips at MSI for K8N Neo Platinum (not including BIOS a upgrade) -
1. NVSA020.zip - SATA controller drivers
2. NF3_CK8S.zip - Chipset drivers including:
Ethernet NRM driver
Network management tools
GART driver
SMBus driver with updated uninstaller files
*Win2K IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
*WinXP IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
3. USB2W9XME009.zip - USB 2.0 drivers
4. ALC69.zip - onboard Realtek audio drivers
*applicable version of Win OS
Are ALL these drivers from MSI to be loaded?
I think I read in some other posts where some of these drivers (?) cause problems and therefore default Win OS (or chipset manufacturer) drivers should be used instead. Is there a concensus (or list) of which drivers should or shouldn't be installed and the correct procedures and order for doing it?
1. NVSA020.zip, these drivers come in a diskete with your mainboard as well but possibly on an earlier version. You will need these if you plan to use a SATA Raid/ or simply a SATA drive when installing your OS of choice. Please note that if you plan to use a single SATA drive use SATA 3 or 4. In this case the drivers are not necessary but rather optional.
2. These are the nforce platform drivers. You can either use the ones off the msi site or the ones from nvidia's site. In any case i would suggest you replace the IDE driver package with the 2.5's -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_ide_4.15_win2KXP.html
3. if you plan updating to a sp 1 or 2 versionof xp, you will probably not need these.
4. ALC69.zip - > Here is the latest realtek drivers.

K8N Neo Platinum & Thermaltake Kandalf Tower

I just bought a Thermaltake Kandalf tower and put my K8n Neo Platinum Mobo in it but I am having troubles with wiring the top panel of the tower to the mobo.
The Kandalf has the two USB plugs but when I plug them into the mobo it cuts out the USB plugs on the D Bracket, I would like to have both running if possible.
Also, for the life of me I can't figure out how to connect the Front Panel Audio Connector : JAUD1 on the mobo to the Kandalf's audio panel.
Any help would be greatly appreciated

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Originally posted by Perion
There are 4 downloadable mainboard driver zips at MSI for K8N Neo Platinum (not including BIOS a upgrade) -
1. NVSA020.zip - SATA controller drivers
2. NF3_CK8S.zip - Chipset drivers including:
Ethernet NRM driver
Network management tools
GART driver
SMBus driver with updated uninstaller files
*Win2K IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
*WinXP IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
3. USB2W9XME009.zip - USB 2.0 drivers
4. ALC69.zip - onboard Realtek audio drivers
*applicable version of Win OS
Are ALL these drivers from MSI to be loaded?
I think I read in some other posts where some of these drivers (?) cause problems and therefore default Win OS (or chipset manufacturer) drivers should be used instead. Is there a concensus (or list) of which drivers should or shouldn't be installed and the correct procedures and order for doing it?
1. NVSA020.zip, these drivers come in a diskete with your mainboard as well but possibly on an earlier version. You will need these if you plan to use a SATA Raid/ or simply a SATA drive when installing your OS of choice. Please note that if you plan to use a single SATA drive use SATA 3 or 4. In this case the drivers are not necessary but rather optional.
2. These are the nforce platform drivers. You can either use the ones off the msi site or the ones from nvidia's site. In any case i would suggest you replace the IDE driver package with the 2.5's -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_ide_4.15_win2KXP.html
3. if you plan updating to a sp 1 or 2 versionof xp, you will probably not need these.
4. ALC69.zip - > Here is the latest realtek drivers.

K8N Neo Platinum - CnQ not working -SOLVED

I've updated my bios to ver 1.56 (beta) and now cnq is working!
Hello,
I cannot get cool 'n'quiet to work. My system is:
AMD Athlon 64 2800+ (Newcastle) - Family 15 Model 12 Step 0 Revision DH7-CG
MSI K8N NEO Platinum motherboard with latest drivers and BIOS ver 1.4
SevenTeam ST-350BKV 350W PSU
512MB Corsair Value PC3200 RAM
GeCube Radeon 9800pro - 128MB
Runing WinXP Pro SP2
I have followed the instructions of the document " Cool ‘n’ Quiet™ Technology Installation Guide for AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor Based Systems":
1) Enabled CNQ in my BIOS - specific selection for this
2) Downloaded Athlon 64 Driver from AMD - checked to make sure default MS WinXP processor driver is replaced with AMD driver.
3) Set power to "Minimum Power Management"
I have tested setup with CPU-Z v1.25 and with wcpuid. CPU multiplier stays locked at 9, voltage stable at 1.47.
I have also installed PowerNow! Dashboard to test the system, but the program refuses to initialize giving me the following message:
"Could not find a valid PSS or PST, bailing.
Failed Initializing, make sure the AMDTools Driver is installed and that this system has a PSS or PST object."
I have formated my harddisk, reinstalled Windows XP sp1, reinstalled all my drivers, and the problem continues.
Thanks.

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Originally posted by itsme
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Originally posted by Deeez
Actually 1.4 bios works best for C&Q.
Funny when people report things like this just because something works for them. Fact is that there are thousands of others which do have cnq problems with this release (me too) and they where fixed with 1.5x. Anyway... no reason to argue.
Well you kind of gave an impression C&Q isn't able to work with bios 1.4...
Anyway if this is the situation someone should add this bios issue to C&Q FAQ cause I believe most of the people still use the latest official bios.

300gb doesn't work on K8n neo platinum

Hi guys! This is my first post ever so please bear with me if it confuses the hell out of everybody
Here's my setup:
Antec 480w
3400+ amd64 1mb L2 cache 754 pin
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
1gb Crucial Ballistix pc3200
2 x 36gb WD raptors
1 200gb IDE seagate 7200rpm 8mb buffer
ATI 256mb 9800xt
pioneer dual layer dvd-108
lite-on CDR
Floppy drive
Ok here's the problem. Everything on the top works fine! My computer has been on for 2 months straight without nothing happening. Now when i finally turned it off, I decided to add the new 300gb maxtor SATA 16mb buffer drives. After I did that, and formated it, it worked for a time. Most of the time after i restart or turn off my computer, windows does not post; it locks up to that screen that says "Windows XP" with the bar scrolling on the bottom of it. Some times it just sticks forever at the beginning bios post with the drives being dectected.
My raptors are hooked up on raid 0 on SATA 3 and 4. My optical drives are on IDE-1. My seagate 200gb os on IDE-0. The moment i added the 300gb maxtor SATA to SATA port 1, that is when i started having the problems.
I checked to make sure everything is right:
1. Check boot prioritys.
2. Check jumpers.
3. Updated bios, even the beta-bios.
4. I made sure all the settings are correct. I even cleared CMOS to do it all over again just to make sure.
5. Installed latest drivers and SP 2 (oh i'm running windows XP sp2 by the way)
I was thinking that SATA 1-2 ports are shared with port IDE-0. If that is true, then that's probably why the computer is getting a confused. I don't know, i talked to my friends and they said they had all the SATA ports used up and also the IDE ports. I'm not sure, sometimes i can get windows to post but with a couple of restarts (54 restarts to be exact :P ) Also if it does post, windows freezes sometimes when i try to add new stuff to the 300gb.
I think that's everything. I hope somebody could help me because i'm about to throw this HD out the window, jump on it until i can't breath anymore, then light a cigarette with a happy smile on my face...

Quote from: sauria on 14-March-05, 11:32:18
Yeah, just doesn't like the 16M cache drive
I'll receive a maxtor 200gb 16mb sata (6B200S0) by the beginning of the week so I'll probably be working on the problem too

K8N Neo Platinum issue, computer does not boot..

Hello,
I’m going to try to be as thorough as possible here… :D
Recently I reinstalled Windows Xp (32-bit version) on my computer to speed things up again like it used to be. I did an updated on the BIOS while I was at it as well, through the Live Update tool downloaded from the msi.com.tw website. The install went well, no errors. The next day while playing WoW the computer began acting weird and computer froze during gameplay. After that the computer had artefacts, strange disturbance on the screen making it impossible to see anything on the screen. So I thought that maybe since the screen looked all messed up it was definitely the graphics card that was about to die and so I sent the gfx to the retailer and they checked it thoroughly for errors without finding any, while they were at it they also checked my RAM and they also came out clean.
A few days ago when my Gfx and RAM came back I inserted them back onto the mobo and when turning on the powerswitch nothing happened… I therefore tried to solve the problem myself and began reinserting all the computer parts piece after piece and well the computer started at least with the fans going and all but after a few seconds it shuts down again.
When I plug in the power cable the PSU makes a clicking sound, don’t know if that’s normal but haven’t noticed it before.
To maybe help you guys when helping me I installed the d-bracket (the usb thingy with 4 led’s ^^) which shows 4 red lights when starting the computer and lasts until the computer shuts down. According to the d-bracket FAQ it means: “- The D-LED will hang here if the processor is damaged or not installed properly or you have a weak Power Supply Unit.”
Well I reinstalled the cpu, put on new thermal grease so I don’t think that is the problem and the computer has been working fine for more than one year until now... How do I know if it’s the PSU or if the cpu is damaged? Could the motherboard been damaged after Live update’s flash? And what could have caused the artefacts on my screen the other day? Errors with the newest nVidia gfx drivers? I’m very confused :S
What should I do?
Thank you for your help!
Computer specs:
Amd 64 3400+ with Zalman cpu fan(can’t remember which one, one with only Cu heatsink + fanmate)
1 GB (2x512MB) Corsair 3200
1x 74GB Western Digital Raptor 10k RPM S-ATA + 1x 200GB P-ATA Maxtor
Gainward nVidia 6800GT Golden Sample 256 MB
MSI K8N Neo Platinum Nforce3 250GB
Antec True 380SP, 380W (came with my enclosure Antec Sonata I, www.antec.com)

Hi again..
I've now received a new PSU from Antecs RMA department. A TruePower 2.0 380W. My computer still doesn't work. 4 Red LED's when trying to boot it up. But I have noticed one thing since last time I wrote here. Remember what I was saying that I upgraded my BIOS through LiveUpdate? When I later checked my motherboard I noticed the CMOS pins around JBAT1(I think) was incorrectly placed. Instead of having them on either 1,2(to keep settings) or 1,3(to clear CMOS) they were placed right next to the JBAT1 pins, on something that wasn't named or explained in my manual. Maybe that is the reason my computer is acting strange? I mean the BIOS could maybe not have properly been saved or something. :/
I'm too inexperienced to know if that had anything to do with my recent computer isssues, but maybe you guys know. Would that screwup by me be covered by my warranty?
If that pins-placed-wrong-on-the-mobo problem doesn't have anything to do with my problem that leaves me with the 4 LEDs from the D-bracket showing a broken CPU or PSU(it's brand new, shouldn't be any problem with it!). So a damaged CPU it is.
Anyone of you got an idea? Been away from my computer for too long. This is getting annoying.
Thanks.
/Christopher

K8N Neo Platinum Just quit working

My son's K8N Neo Platinum suddenly quit working while he was in a game last night - it just tured off with no warning.
It has power - the ethernet NIC light comes on when the power supply is on. But when you press the "on" button, the fans all just rotate about 1/8 turn and then nothing (at least all the case and vid card fans - the CPU and NB fans do not appear to start).
This makes me think the board just up and died. Is that a reasonable conclusion?
I've had no problems and no issues with it since I built the comp almost a year ago.
The specs are in the signature below.
Thanks

Quote from: mpelle4456 on 08-May-05, 03:38:27
Thanks for the response, but I can't imagine what clearing the BIOS would do because it doesn't even get as far as the very start of the POST.
Neither can I, but sometimes it works, as Syar mentions..
Quote from: mpelle4456 on 08-May-05, 03:38:27
Like I said, there is power to the MB - I know that for a fact because the Ethernet NIC light is on. I turn the power supply off (or unplug it, or whatever), turn it back on, and then press the button to turn the comp on, then the case and video card fans run very briefly, and shut off (less than 1 full rotation). The CPU and NB fans do not turn at all.
I understood it the first time
Hope that's all it is...

*UPDATED 7/15/04* Complete guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum

Complete newbie's guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum:
Last Updated: Thursday July 15th, 2004
Bioses:
(In order of date released.)
1.1b3 - (Download)
- Pre-1.1, given to reviewers to use in their reviews and benchmarks.
- Less stable, but supposedly you get slightly better overclocks.
1.1 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- Memory always run DDR 200 when install single side DDR on DIMM2 & DIMM3.
- Windows 2000 can't format the RAID IDE HDD when plug in Promise 378 controller.
1.2b5 - (Download)
1.2b7 - (No Download Yet)
1.2b10 - (Download)
- First attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and doesn't fix it for anybody with Clawhammer cores.
1.2b12 - (Download)
- Second attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and some people with Clawhammer cores.
1.3b1 - (Download)
- Another attempt to fix temperature problems?
- Possibly fixes cold boot/power light issues?
1.2 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- System can't resume from S3 sometimes when install USB device.
- Support K8 Sempron CPU.
- Turn off keyboard LED in S3.
--Quick Guide for flashing BIOS, provided by MSI--
1. Create a MS-DOS boot diskette, then copy the the .exe and the bios file to the floppy disk. Both of these files can be found in the package you downloaded.
2. Press "Delete" and go to BIOS setup while computer bootup.
Check BIOS advanced features and see if BIOS flash write control is enabled
(This option must be enabled. If you can not find this setting, it means the BIOS can be
flashed.)
3. Boot from MS-DOS boot diskette and get a:\> prompt.
4. Type "", then press ENTER
5. The flash program will then ask "Do you want to save BIOS?", please press "N" for no. The when you see Press 'Y' to program or 'N' to Exit, please press "Y" to continue.
6. After flashing complete, remove floppy and reset the system .
7. Press DELETE or F1 when prompted at first reboot after flashing.
8. Load BIOS optimized defaults, then save settings and exits.
Drivers & Needed Files:
(Note: All these drivers are for Windows XP.)
Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.40
(Please use at your own risk, these are LEAKED drivers. Password for the .zip file is "ocworkbench rules". Also, you will need to rename the WinXP_2K folder in IDE to either WinXP or Win2K else the installer doesn't pick it up.) Thanks for the link Wonkanoby!
*NEW* Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 5.03
More leaked drivers? Seems some parts of the drivers are older and some are newer.
1. Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Web Install) -or- Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Full Install)
2. Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Web Install) -or- Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Full Install)
3. Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.24
4. AMD Athlon 64 Processor Driver Version 1.1.0.14
5. Nvidia Video Card Driver Version 56.72 -or- Omega Nvidia Video Card Driver Version v1.5303
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard Nvidia drivers.)
5. ATI Video Card Driver Version 4.7 -or- Omega ATI Video Card Driver Version 2.5.51
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard ATI drivers.)
6. Onboard Sound Driver (Realtek AC'97 Audio Codec) Version A3.61
It is HIGHLY reccomended that you install the drivers/needed files in the order listed above. Please note that there are two #5's because you either install one or the other depending on your video card, do not install both of them.
You will come across a problem here though. You can't install the chipset drivers without installing the Windows service pack and DirectX first, but the Windows service pack and DirectX installs need the internet to download files and you won't have working internet until you install the chipset drivers. Here's what I did to get around this. Instead of downloading the web install versions of Windows service pack and DirectX, download the full version and and put them along with all the other drivers on a backup hard drive or burn them to a CD, this way you will have all the drivers you need when it's time to install them and none of them will require the internet to download files.
Another note when installing drivers. Apparently the Nvidia chipset drivers also come with drivers for the onboard sound, but people seem to agree that the Realtek onboard sound drivers are better. When you are installing the Nvidia chipset drivers, just be sure to uncheck the box for sound drivers when it asks you which drivers you would like to install. Now you can safely install the Realtek drivers without any chance of conflicting sound drivers. Thanks for the tip Wonkanoby!

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Originally posted by RLiu818
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Originally posted by Deviation56
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You CAN install the nforce drivers BEFORE installing SP1. The only requirement to install the nforce drivers is DX9.
So is SP1 still recommended to install before the nforce drivers?
The installer still reccomends to install it beforehand for full USB 2.0 functionality... I would have put what you said in there but I wanted to keep it as simple as possible.
oh. IIRC the installer just says USB 2.0 will be fully functional after SP1 is installed. So after you install SP1 you go into device manager and u click update driver and it will auto search and update the driver.
Simplicity-wise, i guess its pretty much equal. It might take less preparation to just copy DX9 full onto a CD and install that first, then nforce driver, then right away you have yoru internet connection.
but i dunno.. i guess i will try it your way this time when my RMA"d board comes.
i will be fomratting and doing a fresh install later on today and will let you know if i come across any problems

K8N Neo Platinum keeps shutting down

I have just built a new system with a K8N Neo Platinum, Athlon 64 3400+ with retail heatsink and fan, 1GB of Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 DDR400 memory, eVGA GeForce 6800 GT, two 80 GB Maxtor SATA drives in an Antec Sonata case with its TruePower380 watt PS, and my existing NEC 2500 DVD-RW and a DVD-ROM drive and floppy. The system keeps shutting down before I can get WindowsXP installed. It seems to be a heat issue, since its runs the longest after a lengthy shut down, but the bios hardware monitor shows the system temp stable at 33 and the CPU temp at 39.
If I let it idle, it continues to run, but it frequently shuts down when I put a load on it, such as saving the bios configuration or starting Windows during XP setup. I have been able to get XP installed once and started to install the Nforce drivers, but it shut down in the middle of this. Windows files seem to be corrupted frequently. It seems to be somewhat better after I pulled the Athlon heat sink and reapplied a thinner layer of Arctic Silver II. I note that the heatsink does not attach as tightly as the one on my Athlon 1800+. The heatsink fins always seem to be cool to the touch. I notice that the machine usually (but not always) shuts down on a keystroke. I am using a PS/2 keyboard since my USB keyboard doesn’t seem to work.
I understand this motherboard has some issues with temperature sensing, and I would like to get XP installed so I can flash to a later bios and try some moderate overclocking.
I am considering going to an aftermarket CPU cooler, installing a larger power supply, or replacing the MB. I am also considering switching the RAID configuration on the SATA drives from 0 (striping) to 1 (mirrored) or just turning off the RAID function until I get this fixed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Thanks for the suggestion. The Antec 380 has 18 amps on the 12 volt rail, 35 on the +5 and 28 on the +3.3, and I have seen numerous posts of people successfully using this PS for this MB. I have tried reducing the power demand by switching to an old PCI video card, an old stick of 256MB memory, unplugging the optical drives, floppy and case fans, but the machine still shuts down just as quickly.
I finally got XP installed, but haven't been able to update the BIOS yet.
Is there anyway to know whether it's the CPU, the PS or something else causing the shut down?

MSI K8n Neo Platinum

Hi Guys,
I am having a problem with my computer at the moment. I am having trouble getting into the BIOS of this motherboard (MSI K8N Neo Platinum). When I try to get into BIOS, it goes into a black screen with a little line on top of it and its blinking. This has never happened before. Then when I shut off my computer since I couldn't get into the bios, I turned it back on and it goes on but nothing goes to screen or it wont boot up to startup screen. Then I turn it off, I reset the BIOS and turn it back on. Now it boots up to the startup screen, but when it says press del to get into bios, I pressed that and it happens again, it will not get into bios. When I do this over again by resetting the bios, this time without getting into BIOS, it goes on and boots up to Windows XP. I want to reformat my hard drive with a fresh copy of XP Pro, but I can't get into BIOS to do that. Can someone help me?

Same thing happened to me today. Thanks MSI for publishing a Betaversion of a BIOSupgrade on the Live update..
At first I figured that there must have been some fault during the BIOSflash so I downloaded the file again and repeated procedure. This time it worked like a charm and I could do all my BIOS-settings. The next restart the problem was back again though, and this time I had swapped the order for my SATA-drives to boot (to the way they should) but the system couldn't boot. So I couldn't enter neither the bios or Windows. Luckily you can shift the primary boot device by pressing F11 though, so I got out of the libido...
Now I've downloaded the old 1.9 Version instead and I sure as h*** won't do any more beta-testing for MSI by using the Live Update anymore!

MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition memory question

Hi there,
I've currently got a MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition (Nforce 3) motherboard and 2X 512 MB Corsair Value Select memory modules (both double sided) running at DDR 400 - this runs completely stable and has done for a number of months. I would like to increase my memory to 1.5 Gig but there seems to be a lot of issues?
I originally planned to buy an additional 512 Meg Corsair value select chip and place it in Bank 3 - is this acceptable?
I assue that i would have to drop the speed down to DDR 333 from 400, could anyone tell me how much of a difference this actually makes (when playing FPS games Doom3 etc..) ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as i've been looking through both this forum and the Corsair one and i cant seem to find the answer.
thanks in advance !

Just note that there are combinations of two sticks that will also make the board run in DDR333 mode (see page 2-8 of the manual). For example, using two double-sided sticks in DIMM2 and DIMM3. I've actually managed to get it to work at DDR400 in those two slots, but it's not perfectly stable and overclocking diminishes drastically. Bottom line is the system will work fine when forced to DDR333...as long as you don't expect to overclock the RAM to any significant degree.

K8N NEO Platinum 4 Red LED at Startup

I installed a new MSI K8N Neo Platinum mainboard in my computer in December 2005, and my computer has been a pain ever since. My problem is 85% of the time when I turn the power on it just won't boot up, I get 4 Red LED lights. If I shut it off and on half a dozen to 20 times. During one of those times it will bootup normal and work great. Shutdowns are normal.
My Family hates this and won't use it. This computer has been nicknamed the MSI Little Witch. I have had it down to barebones out of case with just graphic card, 1 memory stick, IDE harddrive, keyboard and mouse, it will do same thing. I've unplugged and replugged everything countless times. It still does it. I have tried Maxtor, Samsung, and Western Digital hard drives with fresh install of Windows XP Pro, it still does same thing. I have alternated memory sticks, same thing. It will warm reboot as long as I don't powerdown, but if I shut the power off it will not reboot until it cools down about 20 minutes. Then I can go through the same startup problems as I normally have. I have not done any overclocking.
Anyone have a fix to this fustrating problem?

I have the same problem with my K8N Neo Platinum. Except mine seems to occur after the motherboard has not had power after sometime. For example, it happened every time I moved my computer when I moved into and out of my dorm room. I don't know if its the same "cooling down" time you're talking about, but what usually fixes it for me (at least temporarily) is killing the power to the machine while it is on. Regular soft resets won't work for many tries, but when the computer is on with all 4 red LEDs i'll flip the power switch on the power supply. That usually makes it work fine. Also another thing that seemed to intermittently trigger it is changes to the BIOS. A CMOS reset would not fix that either. I would have to flip the power switch and kill the power. Then after starting it
up again it would be okay. I have also tried multiple combinations of different cpus, memory sticks, and video cards. I also made sure there were no shorts to ground anywhere.
Also after a year of solid operation (with the exception of this problem) I started to get Machine Check Exception BSODs in XP. I think this was because of a possible bad stick of RAM, because that seemed to cause lockups in the way beginning of the Windows setup (where it is loading files such as Windows Executive, etc). When I removed it and put another stick in, the windows installation would go fine. But, that did not fix the issue with this motherboard.
I've had so many problems with the multiple K8N Neo Platinums I have purchased. This is absolutely ridiculous I'm extremely POed at MSI for the widespread K8N series problems. I am usually very tolerant to companies when they have problems with products because I understand that problems and glitches can easily occur in mass production and design. It is virtually impossible to make a "perfect" product from the start. But the lack of response and concern from MSI about this is ridiculous. MSI did make an excellent motherboard here--if you can get a working one.

Problems with 64 3200+ on MSI k8n neo platinum.

AMD Athlon64 Newcastle 3200+ AX 2200MHz/2.2GHz 512kb Boxed (with cpu-cooler!) Socket754
MSI K8N Neo Platinum nForce3 250Gb 3DDR-DIMM 5PCI SATA Raid Audio GB-LAN Firewire Socket754 ATX
Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512 512Mb DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Unbuffered CL3
Okey here it comes..
I installed everything and all seemed to work okey, until i threw in the XP install cd and began my install..
in the dos install of windows xp, (when it moves files to the hdd) it stopped and said that there was a problem with a file that were to be copied, i pressed enter to try again and the install moves on, this accurs 4-5 times and then it gives me a BIG "IRQL less or not equal".. Blue screen of death.. (it complains on different files each time i try to install xp, tried 15-20 times)
I have tried to change memory to another Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512 512Mb DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Unbuffered CL3 with no luck,
changed hdd, change gfx-card. change psu, removed all no-need pci-cards..
but still same error, i aint no expert so i might have missed something in bios or something :(
please help me if you can..

Flashing bios with memory errors is a veeeeery bad idea .
Almost guarantied to ruin your bios chip with bad data block.
That this even is suggested with mem errors , well .
You need to resolve the mem errors before doing anything else.
The windows xp install routine is a very heavy user of cpu and memory
and will fail if you have mem errors like you have.
Some things to try is entering bios and change auto settings on cpu voltage
giving it 0.5v more than default .
Set the memorys voltage to vendors max approved voltage
which for yours is 2.6v +/- 0.1v . So it's safe to set at 2.7v .
Set timings to cas 3 ,ras 3 ,trp 3 , tras 8 , CMD 2T.
Pushing it firmly down in the dimm socket , sometimes it's not all the way down there even if the plastic lockers snap in.
Disconnect all devices not needed for a windows install ,things can be added later.
Have only the hd that os is to be installed to , one cdrom , floppy , memory and
gfx card .
Disconnect USB case front connector (cause corruption and strange faults if
USBOC pin is connected)

D-bracket2 codes? (K8N Neo Platinum)

hey there, its like this.. i just bought a A64 and a K8N Neo Platinum motherboard.. all worked fine nice bench scores and all was happy indeed!
then i started playing the CSS beta.. 30 seconds later the system dies.. (!?) thinking what the heck now? so i checked the CPU sink it was HOT HOT HOT!! after this the mother board dont start not even a fans works.. if i remove the CPU the system "starts" fans works etc.. now i wounder if the CPU is dead? and where are the D bracked fail codes? cuz when system has no CPU 4 red LEDs are lith.. guessing that meens that a CPU is missing.
any one knows where i can get a fail code description.. have checked the manual, but no luck..
also is this coverd by any warranty? CPU just dont overheat lik that.. had mounted the CPU cooler corect etc..

K8N Neo Platinum D-Bracket LED Combinations
4-Red = system hang, processor damaged or not installed properly
1-Green (top left) all others Red = Early Chipset Initialization
1-Green (top right) all others Red = Memory module damaged or not compatible
2-Green at top/2-red at bottom = BIOS image to RAM for quick boot
1-Green lower left = Initializing Keyboard Controller
2-Green left side = Testing VGA BIOS
Red upper left and lower right = CPU Initialization
1-Red lower right = Testing Real Time Clock
1-Green lower right = Initializing Video Interface
Green upper left and lower right = BIOS Sign-On
2-Red left side 2-Green right side = Testing Base and Extended Memory
1-Red lower left = Resource Assignment
2-Red top 2-Green bottom = Initializing Hard Drive Controller
1-Red upper right = Initializing Floppy Drive Controller
1-Red upper left = Boot Attempt
and all GREEN = Operating System Booting

K8N Neo Platinum not working

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