K8N NEO Platinum Temp readings

Well I just got all my parts for my new college build and everything went together fine. I'm using an MSI K8N Neo Platinum with an Athlon64 3400+. I'm also using the Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu all copper heatsink, btw that thing is a monster :P
Anyways I boot up 1st time with no problems suprisingly and go into bios to set everything up. But when I look at the Pheonix Bios page for computer status with tempatures and things it shows wacky temps. With the mini lanboy case with 2 120mm fans and a fortron PSU with a 120mm fan and the zalman heatsink i wasn't expective anything above 40C.
The Bios is displaying ambient as 44C 114F, and 65C 150F. I know for a fact ambient is no higher than 85F and i took the sides of the case of and the air inside seems to be cool. Should I be worried about this or try and get a diff prog to monitor temps. or maybe try and flash the bios. Everything else is in tip top shape, just wanted to check on this before I went trying to install the OS.
I forgot to add I'm using Artic Silver 5 and i spread it on good and then used a business card to spread thin, I also check the contact surface before put on the HSF for good and it was fine.

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Is there a way I can go about flashing the BIOS with a bootable CD or do I need to make a floppy disk? I can get a floppy drive easily if need be but I'd rather not take it out of my old system.
You can use winflash which is included with MSI live update (look in c:\Program Files\MSI\Live Update 3\FlashUty\Award). Many people advise against flashing your bios within windows for safety reasons. A floppy is the more conventional and possibly reliable way, but if you shut down all programs (especially firewalls and virus checkers) then you should have no problems flashing within windows (I don't have a floppy either, have flashed several times using winflash over the past few weeks and no problems). I have never flashed using a bootable CD so I can't offer any help there.
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And I checked the site and they only had the v1.1 Bios should I look somewhere else for beta Bios versions.
Version 1.20 is available on Live Update but do a search in this forum and you will find v1.32 and v1.33 betas.

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K8N Neo Platinum processor overheating?

I've recently received a K8N Neo Platinum MB with a Athlon 64 3000+ processor, and the combination is constantly producing extremely high processor temperatures!? For example, around 62C in idle while the PC cover is open, and over 70C with the cover closed Seems as if there's no software processor cooling at all, even at processor ocupancy close to 0%.
I've turned on the Cool and Quiet feature, and the Core Center is installed and active. Contrary to the demonstration I've seen at a presentation only several days ago, the processor NEVER drops to a lower frequency than the default, even when it hasn't got any workload. As instructed by the MB manual, I've checked the last character in the processor serial number, and it's an X (the manual says it has to be higher than O in order for the processor to support the Cool and Quiet feature). I've dismounted and mounted the cooler several times in order to check if it has good contact with the processor, but there seems to be no problem with it - it's flat and tight, with lots of thermal grease. I've even tried two different instances of Windows XP, SP1 and all the drivers installed, one of them was installed from scratch on K8N Neo, and the heating issue remains the same
Is there a cure? A new BIOS version (maybe beta?) or else? This seems to be unacceptable, since in the demonstration CPU temperature in idle was around 31-32C, and even at highest workloads did not exceed 45C (in a CLOSED case).

from msi:
Thank you for contacting MSI Technical Support.
The temperature you mention is acceptable. Please don't worry about it. But we'll forward these information to our relevant department and have them check this issue. We'll let you know once we have some findings and figure out the solution.
Thanks for your supporting MSI product. We're sorry for any inconvenience caused. Please feel free to let us know if you still have any further issues or inquires.
Best regards,
MSI Technical Support
-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: temperature report too high - data
Dear MSI Support,
I recently received my K8N Neo Platinum NF3 250GB and AMD64 3400+ and am seeing high temperatures reported by core center and motherboard monitor bm5 - in the region of 45C idle (same as reported case temperature which seems very high also), and up to 70C and above under sustained 100% load. Cool and quiet is not enabled, neither is DOT. BIOS reports 45C idle temps - I cannot view direct bios temperature readings under load. Cooler is Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu running at full speed.
CPU information:
CPU 3400+
ADA3400AEP5AP
CAATC 0409VPMW
9531714C40030
Regards,
that's it? fills me with confidence that there will be a fast resolution...

K8n neo platinum restarts or freezes :(

ok, hopefully you guys can help me, you seem to be pretty good at helping poeple on this forum. i want to say first that i have gone through this forum countless times during my time with this motherboard. I've searched and read alot on this problem, but i need help diagnosing my computer. My problem is this. I've had this computer for a little over a year, and it's ran fine up until about 2 months ago. I had a problem where i went to turn it on and it started but then shut off after about 4 seconds. i then had to flip the switch onthe psu for another chance. Then it worked, and worked for about a month without ever sseeing this happen again in that time. then recently it happend again only this time it never started up. eventually it would sometimes turn on and stay on, but wouldn't boot. i would have to use the psu to turn it off. i tried then the cmos and battery to no help. I rma'ed the board and when i recieved the new one i put it in. Now, my computer works as far as booting and everything. Everyting installed fine as far as os and drivers, games, ect.. Only it restarts or freezes randamly. I say that cause it doesn't necissarly mean when playing games or intense programs. it happend while i was typing this 2 times for example. I've done things like checked temps on cpu which show in the 30s idle. i've ran virus and spyware programs. I've flashed bios back to 1.4 which is what i had before and worked fine sept the temps readings, which i didn't mind. i flashed because i thought maybe 1.7 was my problem. I've also, what's making this hard to tell for me, ran stuff like 3dmark 05 without a crash, or full rounds of games fine. But other times durijng a game or just a webpage it'll crash. What i need is help finding the component that is causing this problem. I'm not sure what tests to use, but will try anything and tell yous results. I can buy a new piece to replace something, or rma something possibly, but i'd rather not just buy peices without any reason. Any help would be appreciated greatly. My build is
amd athlon 64 3400+
Ati radeon x800pro
ocz pc3200 400mhz ddram 1024mb
msi k8n neo platinum 1.4
wd 10,000 rpm 8mb ws740gd
sound blaster audigy 2
antec neo power 480w

ok, first, thanks for being patient with me richard and for taking time to help
2 things before the list. 1: other lan is in there cause i originally a year ago had trouble using the onboard one and there was a brand new lan card a friend had laying around. Then recently i was able to use the onboard to connect to net and the lan card to allow my girlfriend to go online through me on her laptop.
2. i just noticed in my computer it's showing i have a floppy drive, which i don't, but i suspect this is from the other night the cmos error and it reset my bios i think, so i just have to redue that.
interrupt request:
(isa)
0 system timer
1 standard 101\102 key or microsof natural ps/2 keyboard
4 communications port (com1)
6 standard floppy disk controller
8 system cmos\real time clock
9 microsof acpi-compliant system
12 ps\2 compatible mouse
13 numeric data processor
(pci)
5 nvidia nforce pci system management
14 nvidia nforce 3 250 parallel ata controller (v2.6)
15 nvidia nforce 3 250 parallel ata controller (v2.6)
16 radeon x800 pro
19 linksys lne100tx fast ethernet adapter(lne100tx v4)
19 via ohci complaint ieee 1394 host controller
20 nvidia nforce 3 250 serial ata controller (v2.6)
20 standard enhanced pci to usb host controller
21 nvidia network bus enumerator
21 nvidia nforce3 250 serial ata controller (v2.6)
22 standard openhcd usb host controller
23 standard openhcd usb host controller
i should say also, if this shows my drivers are not updated, i didn't because i never did before and it worked fine for a year, and i'm one of those that has the motto "if your computer is fine, don't tweak or upgrade stuff, don't touch or do anything"

Help! K8n Neo Platinum wont finish posting

I have a k8n neo platinum, newcastle 3200, 1gb corsair 2-3-3-6 ram, Westen Digital 200gb sata drive, and an Antec Truepower 430watt psu. Everything starts up correctly, but after about 30 seconds the board just powers down. I can attempt to reset it, but it powers down after about 10 seconds afterwords. After each time, the power light stays blinking but nothing else happens.
I think this may be related to the wrong newcastle temp readings bug (I was able to power it on long enough to check that my chip temp was 60deg C, but the heatsink was cold). My fan is a Thermaltake Venus 12. I was going to attempt to bios flash it, but I can't even power it on long enough to do that.
Any help would be extremely useful.

Actually, it was a folse positive. Seems that my problem was a keyboard problem of all things. After switiching the power connector around, it still just died when I went to use the keyboard. So I switched to a different keyboard.
I am having another problem though. I'm trying to install an OS (windows xp) and am facing random lockups during the installation. And at times, the keyboard just won't respond in the bios.
Temps are more or less fine, I think. They were toping at 68 deg C (newcastle temp bug). I'm too scared to update the bios and have it just lock up in the middle.
With a new keyboard plugged in, the original problem goes away, but if I set the bios to halt on "all errors", instead of the default "all but keyboard", it post hangs with the error message "keyboard is locked out - unlock the key" which may or may not be related. I would really like to be able to use my other keyboard, but that's even worse.
If anyone could shed some light on the crazy keyboard issues and the random lockups, that would be great. This motherboard is really starting to frustrate me.

K8N Neo Platinum BIOS 1.4 temperatures

When I upgraded my K8N Neo Platinum from BIOS version 1.3 to 1.4 temperatures jumped up by 7 to 10 degrees and average vcore dropped by about .03 volts (both read from Core Center).
Both readings reverted back when I switched back to BIOS 1.3. I'm just concerned as to which is more accurate. I was planning on doing some mild overclocking on this system, but if the 1.4 readings are right (51C idle) then I don't have much room.
Has anyone else experienced this issue? Any idea on which temps are more accurate?
My system:
K8N Neo Platinum (socket 754)
A 64 3400 (Newcastle)
Enermax 550 watt power supply
Thermaltake Venus 12 CPU cooler

If you check around you will see, especially as applies to Neo2s the temp numbers are all screwed up. With all prior bioses my computer showed temps ranging from +175 to -128 irrespective of load.
This is especially irksome as I am vapor cooling and know from an external temp probe I installed right on top of the heat spreader on the CPU that I am running well below zero even under full load.
I cannot comment on the 1.41 bios yet because my board decided to blow up a capacitor last week and I haven't received my replacement yet.

*UPDATED 7/15/04* Complete guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum

Complete newbie's guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum:
Last Updated: Thursday July 15th, 2004
Bioses:
(In order of date released.)
1.1b3 - (Download)
- Pre-1.1, given to reviewers to use in their reviews and benchmarks.
- Less stable, but supposedly you get slightly better overclocks.
1.1 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- Memory always run DDR 200 when install single side DDR on DIMM2 & DIMM3.
- Windows 2000 can't format the RAID IDE HDD when plug in Promise 378 controller.
1.2b5 - (Download)
1.2b7 - (No Download Yet)
1.2b10 - (Download)
- First attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and doesn't fix it for anybody with Clawhammer cores.
1.2b12 - (Download)
- Second attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and some people with Clawhammer cores.
1.3b1 - (Download)
- Another attempt to fix temperature problems?
- Possibly fixes cold boot/power light issues?
1.2 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- System can't resume from S3 sometimes when install USB device.
- Support K8 Sempron CPU.
- Turn off keyboard LED in S3.
--Quick Guide for flashing BIOS, provided by MSI--
1. Create a MS-DOS boot diskette, then copy the the .exe and the bios file to the floppy disk. Both of these files can be found in the package you downloaded.
2. Press "Delete" and go to BIOS setup while computer bootup.
Check BIOS advanced features and see if BIOS flash write control is enabled
(This option must be enabled. If you can not find this setting, it means the BIOS can be
flashed.)
3. Boot from MS-DOS boot diskette and get a:\> prompt.
4. Type "", then press ENTER
5. The flash program will then ask "Do you want to save BIOS?", please press "N" for no. The when you see Press 'Y' to program or 'N' to Exit, please press "Y" to continue.
6. After flashing complete, remove floppy and reset the system .
7. Press DELETE or F1 when prompted at first reboot after flashing.
8. Load BIOS optimized defaults, then save settings and exits.
Drivers & Needed Files:
(Note: All these drivers are for Windows XP.)
Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.40
(Please use at your own risk, these are LEAKED drivers. Password for the .zip file is "ocworkbench rules". Also, you will need to rename the WinXP_2K folder in IDE to either WinXP or Win2K else the installer doesn't pick it up.) Thanks for the link Wonkanoby!
*NEW* Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 5.03
More leaked drivers? Seems some parts of the drivers are older and some are newer.
1. Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Web Install) -or- Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Full Install)
2. Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Web Install) -or- Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Full Install)
3. Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.24
4. AMD Athlon 64 Processor Driver Version 1.1.0.14
5. Nvidia Video Card Driver Version 56.72 -or- Omega Nvidia Video Card Driver Version v1.5303
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard Nvidia drivers.)
5. ATI Video Card Driver Version 4.7 -or- Omega ATI Video Card Driver Version 2.5.51
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard ATI drivers.)
6. Onboard Sound Driver (Realtek AC'97 Audio Codec) Version A3.61
It is HIGHLY reccomended that you install the drivers/needed files in the order listed above. Please note that there are two #5's because you either install one or the other depending on your video card, do not install both of them.
You will come across a problem here though. You can't install the chipset drivers without installing the Windows service pack and DirectX first, but the Windows service pack and DirectX installs need the internet to download files and you won't have working internet until you install the chipset drivers. Here's what I did to get around this. Instead of downloading the web install versions of Windows service pack and DirectX, download the full version and and put them along with all the other drivers on a backup hard drive or burn them to a CD, this way you will have all the drivers you need when it's time to install them and none of them will require the internet to download files.
Another note when installing drivers. Apparently the Nvidia chipset drivers also come with drivers for the onboard sound, but people seem to agree that the Realtek onboard sound drivers are better. When you are installing the Nvidia chipset drivers, just be sure to uncheck the box for sound drivers when it asks you which drivers you would like to install. Now you can safely install the Realtek drivers without any chance of conflicting sound drivers. Thanks for the tip Wonkanoby!

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Originally posted by RLiu818
You CAN install the nforce drivers BEFORE installing SP1. The only requirement to install the nforce drivers is DX9.
So is SP1 still recommended to install before the nforce drivers?
The installer still reccomends to install it beforehand for full USB 2.0 functionality... I would have put what you said in there but I wanted to keep it as simple as possible.
oh. IIRC the installer just says USB 2.0 will be fully functional after SP1 is installed. So after you install SP1 you go into device manager and u click update driver and it will auto search and update the driver.
Simplicity-wise, i guess its pretty much equal. It might take less preparation to just copy DX9 full onto a CD and install that first, then nforce driver, then right away you have yoru internet connection.
but i dunno.. i guess i will try it your way this time when my RMA"d board comes.
i will be fomratting and doing a fresh install later on today and will let you know if i come across any problems

"error loading operating system MSI K8n Neo platinum

OK,
System will post, according to MSI Website I have the latest Bios version.
I can boot from CD.
The only odd item is that I am using the HD that I took out of my old computer with windows already on it.
Tried re-installing windows XP. It went through the loading process and then rebooted. Same error message appears.
Also, is 48 degrees normal for idle temp on CPU AMD 64 3400? 36 degrees NB temp ok?
Oh, yeah, I have a floppy installed, CD-ROM, CD RW, all non SATA. Using IDE cables.
Video is Asus V9980 ultra GeForce FX 5950.
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
AMD 64 3400
Hercules 600 W PSU
WD 80gb HD
Generic CD-Rom
Sony Cd-RW
2 x 512 crucial 400 ddram slosts 1 and 2
Asus V9980 ultra GeForce FX 5950 256 TVD
Do I need to clear bios and re-start?
HD is on it's own cable in IDE 1
Cds on IDE 2 shared.
let me know what you think.
The other related posts I read, people were using raid or multiple OS. I'm not.

I had the same issues as you sometimes Windows would install and sometimes it wouldn't the problem was related to ram. I had my ram in slots one and two like you did and I moved the ram to slots 1 and 3 and now the machine is rock solid stable.
I think most of the problems people are having are actually more ram related than anything else.
So try moving the stick of ram you have in slot 2 to slot 3 and see if this solves your problem. This solution is on forums somewhere I am just not sure where.
Take care,
Bob

K8N Neo Platinum keeps shutting down

I have just built a new system with a K8N Neo Platinum, Athlon 64 3400+ with retail heatsink and fan, 1GB of Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 DDR400 memory, eVGA GeForce 6800 GT, two 80 GB Maxtor SATA drives in an Antec Sonata case with its TruePower380 watt PS, and my existing NEC 2500 DVD-RW and a DVD-ROM drive and floppy. The system keeps shutting down before I can get WindowsXP installed. It seems to be a heat issue, since its runs the longest after a lengthy shut down, but the bios hardware monitor shows the system temp stable at 33 and the CPU temp at 39.
If I let it idle, it continues to run, but it frequently shuts down when I put a load on it, such as saving the bios configuration or starting Windows during XP setup. I have been able to get XP installed once and started to install the Nforce drivers, but it shut down in the middle of this. Windows files seem to be corrupted frequently. It seems to be somewhat better after I pulled the Athlon heat sink and reapplied a thinner layer of Arctic Silver II. I note that the heatsink does not attach as tightly as the one on my Athlon 1800+. The heatsink fins always seem to be cool to the touch. I notice that the machine usually (but not always) shuts down on a keystroke. I am using a PS/2 keyboard since my USB keyboard doesn’t seem to work.
I understand this motherboard has some issues with temperature sensing, and I would like to get XP installed so I can flash to a later bios and try some moderate overclocking.
I am considering going to an aftermarket CPU cooler, installing a larger power supply, or replacing the MB. I am also considering switching the RAID configuration on the SATA drives from 0 (striping) to 1 (mirrored) or just turning off the RAID function until I get this fixed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Trickster2

Thanks for the suggestion. The Antec 380 has 18 amps on the 12 volt rail, 35 on the +5 and 28 on the +3.3, and I have seen numerous posts of people successfully using this PS for this MB. I have tried reducing the power demand by switching to an old PCI video card, an old stick of 256MB memory, unplugging the optical drives, floppy and case fans, but the machine still shuts down just as quickly.
I finally got XP installed, but haven't been able to update the BIOS yet.
Is there anyway to know whether it's the CPU, the PS or something else causing the shut down?

Help with MSI K8N Neo Platinum

HELP please- motherboard MSI K8N Neo PLATINUM: I tried to take away the backplate for the heatsink (on the back side of MB) in order to install the zalman HS beafore i read the forum (use a fan...) and the worst of all happend:
I scratched the back surface!! the scratches are minor, that is 4 scratches half a milimeter long each and not deep but i can see the copper of some lines leading from the memory slots to the processr. My question is : can I try and build the computer on that motherboard anyway or better buy a new one? is there a risk of dammaging other components? oh god what a mistake!

Make sure the new backplate is non-conductive. The backplate for the Hyper 6 has a non-conductive sticker on it. Make sure to keep it on if youve got one... If the lines are exposed even with the back-plate on perhaps you should cover them with some non-conductive (100% non conductive!) tape or something.
Then it doesnt matter if they are exposed, as long as they are ok.
A good tip, which got when i was removing my backplate, is to use a blow dryer to heat it up and the remove it with your fingers. That way youll also notice if it gets to hot
The glue gets sticky at blow drier temps. And pls, dont singe the MB with your blow dryer, you only have to make it hot, and if you cant touch it, how can you remove it with your fingers?
I guess theres no way of telling if you have a serious prob and no way to tell if your cpu will be ok. I guess you could (?) try and start it wíthout anything (cpu, mems) but a PSU, and then, if it (and maybe the PSU) goes "!Pfsssssss!" or "bang!", youll now you will have to replace it.
I put a screwdriver through an asus board once, and it still worked...

MSI K8N Neo Platinum | system freezes!

Hi,
I recently bougt a MSI K8N Neo Platinum and an A64 3200+ Clawhammer Boxed. I was looking forward to low temperatures and a stabile motherboard, but I haven´t been that blessed yet. During random cpu loads, I get system hang-ups. Wether it´s running iTunes, CS, Sisoft Sandra, FarCry or nothing at all, the system sometimes stops responding.
I´ve updated to 1.2 BIOS, and I´ve downloaded the unofficial 1.33 BIOS from this forum , haven´t tried it yet, though.
MSI Corecenter tells med that the CPU temp gets above 55 degrees under full load. Atually, I had up to 70 degrees until I installed a third case fan. But the sys temp reports from 45 to 50 degrees. And I guess this is the little "MSI"-marked heatsink´s fault. It gets burning hot.
Could the system temp be the cause of my hang-ups?
Hoping for tips and possible solutions.
Btw, sorry for my norwegian-english

Hi,
I recently bougt a MSI K8N Neo Platinum and an A64 3200+ Clawhammer Boxed. I was looking forward to low temperatures and a stabile motherboard, but I haven´t been that blessed yet. During random cpu loads, I get system hang-ups. Wether it´s running iTunes, CS, Sisoft Sandra, FarCry or nothing at all, the system sometimes stops responding.
I´ve updated to 1.2 BIOS, and I´ve downloaded the unofficial 1.33 BIOS from this forum , haven´t tried it yet, though.
MSI Corecenter tells med that the CPU temp gets above 55 degrees under full load. Atually, I had up to 70 degrees until I installed a third case fan. But the sys temp reports from 45 to 50 degrees. And I guess this is the little "MSI"-marked heatsink´s fault. It gets burning hot.
Could the system temp be the cause of my hang-ups?
Hoping for tips and possible solutions.
Btw, sorry for my norwegian-english

K8N Neo Platinum Bios 1.3 XP 3700 heat question

i did do a quick search on here before posting this question but had a load of varying answers ... so
i have a K8N Neo Platinum Bios 1.3 an xp 3700 and core centre says the chip is at about 45 - 50 degrees when the pc is idle
this is with the stock fan that came with the chip and ive also tried a samurai heatsink and fan .... ive reseated and reapplied artic silver and also tried thermal pads as well and the temp on the processor always comes back as 45 ish degrees
is this normal as the pc seems to run ok and even after round of doom 3 the temps only seem to hit about 55
are these chips hotter now or is it a bios / thermal temp issue
cheers guys
ohh and nice forums BTW

yup, issue with temp reading -> 1.43 beta bios for K8N NEO pL. for me 36-39 idle 42-45 after a doom3 session

K8N Neo Platinum with Venice vcore problem

Hello,
I got a new Socket754 CPU Venice E6 3000+ and replaced it with NewCastle CG 3200+.
But BIOS indicates VCORE is 1.9V+. It's obvious that it's too high and also CPU temp is 0C/32F.
Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
Athlon64 3000+ Venice E6
K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) BIOS 2.1
WD Raptor 36GB
Reserator1 Plus
Seasonic S12 500W
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
SB Audigy2

Please create your own rig and put in your sig with details of PSU and BIOS rev. Have you OC'ing your pc recently?

K8N Neo Platinum hangs at "Initializing Keyboard Controller" step in POST

Hi Folks,
Here is my system:
MSI K8N Neo Platinum (New in box) (no clue on bios version, as I can't access it yet)
Athlon 64 3200+ 2200Mhz, 640Kb Cache
Thermaltake CL-P0025 Silent Tower CPU Cooler (VERY careful installing this)
2x512MB Mushkin 991460 EM3200 400Mhz DDR (
ATI AIW Pro X800XT (AGP)
OCZ ModStream 450W PS (3.3/28A, 5/45A, 12/26A, 220W/312W)
WD 74GB Raptor
Plextor 712A DVD/CD (SATA)
Here is my dilema: box powers up, POST stops at "Initializing Keyboard Controller". ( I know this because the little lights on the D-bracket tell me so.....:-) I have been on these forums as well as AMD's forums all day now, and have tried everything suggested, except swapping PS. But I think I have an adequate model.
One by one, I have disconnected any sources of possible problems. I have reset my bios too many times to count. I have isolated the MB outside of the case. I have re-seated everything numerous times. I changed Bios battery. I've swapped RAM, and it's positions. Even took it all off. I even bought another K8N from Ebay, and have the exact same results. At no time has the status lights displayed anything different, except for a quick change in color of light number 3 when I do a front-panel reset. Right now I have nothing but the processor on the board and I still have the same result; POST hanging at "Initializing keyboard controller". I have swapped keyboards unplugged the keyboard.
I am leaning toward the processor now. What am I missing? Should I just do an RMA and be done with it?
Suggestions encouraged......
James

Quote from: sincity337 on 04-August-05, 12:22:07
Bowen,
I've got an old Asus P2B that still runs like a champ, although slow by todays standards. You are right about it being rock solid, I have never had a problem with it, not one. As a matter of fact I still have it and I use it for my "linux box". Oops, a little off topic.
Anyway, it looks like MSI received the board today. I will start the stopwatch and see how long it takes to get a replacement board. I'll keep you guys posted.
James
Yeah those boards were the best I've seen. The Intel 865 chipsets are pretty good too. My previous 845 based mobo was nice as well. In the past, using VIA boards have been hit and miss with me. The K8T800/Pro and K8T900/Pro seem to be very stable though...still I would get an nForce 4 chipset over the newest VIA boards.
This is OT but I just received my shiny new BFG GeForce 7800 GTX OC card a few days ago and I was very surprised at it's performance. I was using a crappy Radeon X300 because I needed a temp card until I could buy either a 7800 GTX or the upcoming Radeon X900 XT. My last system I had a Radeon 9800 Pro and it ran flawlessly. I only had one problem with that card and it was driver related to only one game. The game was Call of Duty and that issue was resolved by going down to an older driver, but then ATi corrected the problem with a new driver release. Anyway as fast as the 7800 GTX is, I hated it! The reason is that despite it's awesome speed; the only way I can put it, is that it doesn't run games as smooth as Radeon's do. It was especially bad with Battlefield 2. This is ironic because BF2 is supposed to be optimized for nVidia cards.
It has a bad stuttering problem with BF2 and allot of people have this issue. Some have this problem with ATi cards but most are nVidia users. Even when I set the quality down to the same settings as my 9800P was at, it did the same thing. Other games like Counter-Strike: Source ran fine unless you had bots. Heh, even my slow X300 ran games more smoothly (not faster and at a much lower resolution and quality setting but still smoother) than the 7800 GTX. I sent the card back and I'm getting a full refund. I'm waiting on ATi to release their X900 XT and I'll buy that. What's strange is that prior to buying my 9800P two years ago, I had only used nVidia cards since the TnT2. Well times have changed I guess. Oh well, I guess I had to learn the hard way, but at least this way I know I'm getting the right card!

K8N Neo Platinum will shutdown in about a minute

My K8N Neo Platinum will shutdown after about a minute of powering up. The front power LED will flash slowly and I am unable to power it backup without shutting off the main switch to the power supply and waiting awhile before I try again.
I can watch the PC health status within BIOS for a few minutes and all is well until I press any key. Once I hit a key the system shuts down.
The PC Health info...
System Temp    45C
CPU Temp     43C
CPU Fan Speed    3139-3154 RPM
Vcore       1.48-1.50V
+12.0V      12.03
+3.3V     3.29V
+5.0V    5.02-5.04V
Battery     3.22V
+5VSB       5.13-5.15V
NOTE: CPU temperatures start out at about 38C that seems pretty high to me. The room is not close to being 38C or 100 degrees Fahrenheit
In the BIOS I have...
- Loaded Fail Safe Defaults
- Disabled quick boot (so the memory will be tested)
- Removed logo displays (so I can see the memory being tested)
One memory module fails! But the other seems to test OK. With the bad module removed the system still shuts down.
My equipment...
ANTEC Sonata case with the built in 380W power supply.
K8N Neo Platinum
Athlon 64 3200+ processor
ATI All-in-Wonder 9600
Two Centon 512MB PC3200 memory modules
For testing I removed all IDE devices except for one good hard drive
NOTE: The system will boot up… but will shutdown as described above!
Do we have any ideas on how to isolate this further?
Thanks
JJ

Ok, had to reply to this one--had the exact same issue and this definitely is the weirdest experience I've ever had. (You can skip to the last paragraph for the short version).
I was having the exact same problem, turn on the power, go into the BIOS, all readouts look ok but then after about a minute it would shut off with a blinking power light. Would turn it off and back on, sometimes it would just get hung and I'd have to reset the BIOS with the jumper.
After about an hour of taking apart and putting the system back together over and over it occured to me--when does a power light flash? When the system is suspended. I also noticed that when I actually made it into the BIOS, the moment the system always shut down was when I hit a key on the keyboard (thought that was odd). So I unplugged my keyboard and let it sit at the POST error for not having a keyboard. I noticed when I did this it didn't shut itself down.
So then I wondered if the keyboard could possibly be sending some kind of signal the BIOS was interpreting as a "sleep" command. So off to CompUSA to get another keyboard. Mine is PS/2 but I thought maybe I'd try out a USB one to see if that would work out. I figured the PS/2 port was messed up and had an internal short or something.
Unplugged the PS/2 keyboard, plugged in a new USB keyboard and was able to make it into the BIOS, then I was able to actually boot Windows! (kept my existing Windows installation for the time being). I wasn't out of the woods yet though, Windows hadn't loaded the USB driver yet so I had no keyboard/mouse when I got to Windows (and I even had the BIOS support option for USB KB/Mouse turned on, but that didn't seem to make a difference). So, just for the heck of it, I unplugged the PS/2 to USB converter that came with my "USB" keyboard (thank goodness it was using an adapter) and plugged it into the PS/2 port again. This time the PC booted correctly and I've been using it with the new keyboard in the PS/2 port since with no problems. The old keyboard in the PS/2 slot still makes the system power off after a few seconds.
This has turned out to be one of the most bizarre scenarios I've ever been faced with. For reference, my original keyboard was a PS/2 Logitech Deluxe 104 KB, and I replaced it with a cheapo $15 Memorex (was just for testing but hey, it works now).
So anyway, this is absolutely crazy, but try using a USB keyboard or even a completely different keyboard if your system shuts "off" with the power light flashing after 5 - 30 sec after you turn it on.

K8N Neo Platinum - No post ... help!

Hey folks,
Refer to this thread for info ... Help ... my pc won't turn on!
I'll start off with the system specs so you'll have an idea of what I'm going to be talking about :
AMD Athlon64 3000+
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
Corsair CMX-512 PC3200
WD 160gb SATA
MSI 5900xt
Antec SmartBlue 350w
So I bought the parts ... 2 months ago. I used it for about 1 month ...ran like a dream. Died ... RMA'ed the motherboard, and a month later, I get it. I assemble the system, doesn't post the first time I turn it on. Shut it off, posts ... attempts to log onto the Windows partition that is on the hard drive i used it with ... gets into Windows logon screen, and crashes. On several occasions, I noticed the system switched off on its on for some reason. Switch off the system, try again, and it crashes. Switch it off (by holding on the case switch, then switching off the power supply). This time, I switch the PS back on again, and the system fans start, but nothing comes on screen, or posts. I noticed on the video card, the fan starts up, but then stops after it realizes that the system hasn't posted (heatsink is cool). I know the video card works because I just pulled it out of my spare system ... and it works just fine. I have no idea what is going on. I don't know what to do. Any help is greatly apprecitated.
Quite frankly, I am rather dissappointed with MSI at the moment. I fork out my hard earned money for a good motherboard, it dies out of the blue for no reason, I RMA it, and a MONTH later, i get a crappy refurb (looks quite used too!). Is there any customer satisfaction involved? I would like to get on the phone and actually talk to some one about this.
Thanks guys!

Just remembered to attach the diagnostic d-bracket. I get red, red, green, red.
Hopefully this'll help.
EDIT: So I cleared the CMOS. I can get the system to POST now. This posting thing is still iffy ... posts sometimes, and decides not to at other times. Only problem is, is a stability problem. I managed to get the system to boot into the WinXP install I had before. Just freezes out of the blue. Also froze when I tried to install a new copy of windows. Freezes on random occasions. The motherboard I had previously booted on first try, and installed without any problems. It never froze, or crash. Why would this motherboard crash?
Also found that the fan on the v-card does not spin when it is not active. It spins fine when there is something displayed on the monitor.
Bios is V1.4. CPU temp at around 38-40°C. NB temp at around 28-30°C. Temps seem to be normal.

K8N NEO Platinum Temp readings

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