K8N Neo platinum with 3 Ram slots full?

Looking to upgrade my Athlon 64 3400+ (ClawHammer C0) from 1GB to 2GB.
One of the options would be to add a 1GB DIMM to the two existing 512MBs. I know this would drop me back to DDR333, but would there be other problems?
The board's a K8N Neo Platinum.
Thanks in advance
Derek

Quote from: wazzledoozle on 26-March-06, 05:58:58
It really depends on your processor, since that is where the memory controller is. The newer Sempron 64 based on venice cores can handle 3 dimm's at 400 mhz fine (I think)
Newcastle cores and the older Sempron have issues, im not familiar with them so I dont know.
well, your close.....newcastles (least the one i have) and venices (for sure) can handle the 3dimms (in most cases....depending on ram brand, timings, etc...) and keep the 400mhz. i know i read a review somewhere that the memory controllers on clawhammers are Low Latency Brand picky. most of them would produce errors out the wazzoo with (for example: corsair 2-3-3-6 1t memory ) common ultra brand memory. i remember this review showing the twinmos wouldnt even post. i had a choice between two processors (3400+ clawhammer and the newcastle i have) i wanted the clawhammer cause i here they are wannabee fx's in the makin when overclockin but i did my homework (read/searched many reviews) and found that the clawhammer and using 3 double sided LL memory modules was a shot in the air. didnt want to take that chance for 512k more cache and have a unstable puter. i MUST have my patriot memory (cause they rock...) so when newcastle came i placed my dual channel (512mb x 2) kit in and walla....workin fine...placed my 1 gig stick in..... .......i bet the clawhammer would of worked (since i havent herd any issues with memory and clawhammers) but didnt want to take the chance.
what was your cpu stepping may i ask?? CO was the big booger that had memory picky issues and not being able to use 3 dimms at 400mhz stable.
edit to my previous post.....
1 dimm used (dont matter on what size of memory module) would yield the best bandwidth scores. 2 or 3 dimms being used would yield same scores (and not matter which stick in what slot.....all combos gave me pretty much same scores).

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Glenn

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K8n neo platinum with 3-4 gig

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The sound quality on those compared to the 4.57 standalone nvidia (that has its own version of the realtek AC97 codec and updated interface drivers) is not as good. Theres a long thread on here if you search for it for peoples opinions.
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Shovon, the latest AC97 drivers from www.msicomputer.com will work perfectly for the K8N Neo2 Platinum
I currently have thwm running and have no problems
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Quote from: Chebyshev on 13-February-06, 06:12:18
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Yes....
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Insert DOS untill you get the A:>
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Sorry the Bad English

Here are the instructions to reflash the BIOS for your K8 Neo. I am currently running ver.1.4 with little problems. My only snafu is the LED for my optical mouse stays lit even when system is off, however I have no RAID, Ethernet, onboard sound, or SATA drives. I have just a simple basic system, and I don't overclock. My board is the K8 Neo Platinum socket 754, with an AMD64 3000+. YOU MUST HAVE A FLOPPY DRIVE CONNECTED TO SYSTEM FOR THESE INSTRUCTIONS TO WORK!.
Flashing BIOS on K8 Neo per MSI. READ ALL instructions before starting.
1.Check your BIOS for flashing protection and disable it.
2. Know your board model#. a. Open case and find model# on the board between the PCI slots, or b., boot system and at first DOS screen you will see 'W7030ver1.4122101'. This means you have a MSI model 7030 motherboard with BIOS version 1.4 issued on 12/21/01.
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6. Set boot order to floppy. Hit F11 to select boot device.
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8. At A:\ prompt type in the following,
C:\ (enter)
cd\TEST(enter)
awdfl833c(space)w7030nms.130
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Check the manual. It should be an option in the bios. I have it in my bios for my board, but when I helped someone put together their machine with a K8N Platinum 2, I didn't see this as an option in that bios. It may be that power on by keyboard and/or mouse is not an option for your board.

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Quote from: blazing storm on 23-August-05, 05:30:00
Look in the bios and loosen up the RAM settings. Make sure the RAM isn't being stressed into settings that are too hard for it to handle.
See I told you to loosen it up...
I speak from experience as the same happened to me and loosening settings stopped errors.
Glad you managed it, well done...

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USB connector block layout which corresponds to the pin layout on boards with the Intel spec for USB. Do not cut the pin on the MOBO. You are removing/cutting the wire to the connector block from the case.
2 4 6 8 10(this wire, #10, not needed)
1 3 5 7 9(filled/key)
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2 posts to read--Here and Here.
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This is bit of a dumb question..... I am not a noob either, been building computers for 6 years.
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Tried to get into Safe Mode the other day ( to uninstall the video driver with Driver Cleaner) ...Hit F8 while booting , got the standard menu for safe mode, picked the standard "Safe Mode " option....then the computer restarts.
So I can't get into safe mode
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Quote
System reboot to safe mode when "Insert" key pressed
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Thought that I would ask?

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320GB SATA WD
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Figures , as Maxtor is the vendor that has problems with their sataII DiamondMax drives on nforce3/4 buildt in sata controllers.
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