K8N Neo Power/Boot Problems!

Yo to all, i have recently bought for my pc at home ( i semi-own a pc store ) and i have decided to upgrade my previous amd 2600 barton.
Well i ordered a MSI K8N Neo Platinum + 54g ( wlan ) and an AMD 64 3200+.
Now when the package came i installed them to my case and it worked fine, so i packed it and went home to install it to its previous place, but unfortunately it never powered-up. I saw that when i entered the 12pin PSU cables on mb the light from the network card blinked one time and thats it , it didnt work. After more tries i saw that when i semi-entered the 12pin cable the fans start spinning with no booting process and the d-bracket was constantly red.
So i called the company and i got a replacement, but the problem now is :
The pc works only if it closes from software termination, if i pull the plug out or the power cuts off it stays inactive for like 10 mins before it can power up again, meaning that i have to leave it open all the time.
I repeat if you didnt understand. When i boot , if the power goes off or i closed it via the pc's button it wont be powered on for the next 10-15mins, the only way to boot is to successfully boot and shut it down via windows/linux.
I dont know what this means , havent seen it before.
Its not my PSU , it is tested and works great on other motherboards.
If anyone can help me with this i would be gladful, although i want to believe that the next bios patch will cover this as i cant send the mb back and wait for another 3-4weeks.
Best Regards,
Sedde

Ok havent seen this problem before on this board but this is whats happening, all motherboards are made with a thermal switch on the board (as well as one built into the psu) it used to be on cheaper boards when they use cheaper components if you turn off a computer by power failiure on off switch or just pulling the plug out of the back the switch will trip just like an rcd. The system holds the risidual current for about 10 minutes (you can bleed it faster by using foil or removing the onboard battery and resetting the bios) The problem is probably a faulty thermal rcd circuit, this problem can be caused by a to high output power supply but is more likley a manafacturing fault. You should have no problem with an RMA on the board as their technicians will recognise it. However it is worth trying it quickly before you RMA it, try it on a lower output psu i.e 350w with about 18amps on the 12v. If this doesnt work return it as faulty.
Hope this helps

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K8n neo 2 boot problems :cry:

Hi all,
yesterday I turned off my pc and carried it to the place where I work.
From that monent I'm still unable to boot and mobo sounds long beeps of 4-5 seconds.
Before this big mistake, I never had problems with this great product!
As I come back home, I try to unplug all the power chords.
Any other suggestion?
My configuration:
K8n neo 2
Wichester 3000
Pny 6800 GT 256 mb with silencer
2*512 mb ram DDR vitesta 500
300 gb hd maxtor
485 W Psu Enermax noisetaker...
No overclock!
Thx in advance for your help,
Ikki

Hi all again,
i went back home and solved the problem unplugging all the power connectors and the power cable.
It was probably in JPW1 connector: as I pushed it stronger, the pc booted again.
I knew in advance that this is the place to solve the mistake...
Bye and thx all,
Ikki

K8n neo platinum boot problem

hi all
first of all sorry about my bad english...
my pc specs
A64 2800+ newcastle with Tt Polo735
k8n neo platinum
Noganet 350W (+5v=35a // +12v=15a // -12v=1a // -5v=0.5a )
2x Wd30gb
sapphire9600xt
256mb kingston pc2700
256mb xerox pc2700
well, yesterday i changed my amd box cooler and put the polo735.. everything was fine.. when i turn on the computer..dont boot and only a single bip every 4 or 5 secs..
i tryed everything, another mems, another vid card... i started my pc with only mems, vid and heatsink and nothing...only the beps
i put my cpu on another pc and works fine.. and put another cpu on mi mother and the same problem..
i clear cmos and nothing
i change the psu for a generic 520w and nothing
plz HElp
cyas
EDIT: DBRACKET led 1, 2, 4 in red // led 3 in green

Sounds like bad/not levered pressure from the new heatsink to the cpu HS .
Make sure it correct aligned and the right way and has the correct pressure
to the cpus heatspreader . Also make sure motherboard can read the fans rpm .
[edit:]
btw i agree with bas , your current psu is weak .
The polo fan also is a very watt hungry fan compared to boxed .

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MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum Problem

A lot of things could be wrong but it will be easier to figure out if we know what you did. When you say you changed settings in Bios, do you remember your last settings and what you did?
It might be helpful if you created a sig (as described in the forum rules) to show what you have in your system like my sig below. (Hint- use profile button in sign on screen.)
Things could be broken even if there is no visible evidence (such as flames or melted component) of course.
If I had to guess and your d-bracket reading is correct, corrupted bios requiring new bios chip, but let's not guess as a lot of things could be wrong and you don't want to invest in a new bios chip if the board cannot be brought back to life. Consider removing parts and testing them in an other machine. Start with CPU and memory?
Good luck.

MSI K8t NEO + Audigy Boot Problem only when power is unplugged on the PSU

I ran into a really weird problem today.
I switched the ps off by reaching back and pressing the button. I repress the button to power on the ps, then I click on the button in the fron of the case to power up the machine. System keeps rebooting itself every 1 sec. Bracket shows 4 red lights. In the manual, it says it means bad cpu. I remove the audigy and it boots fine. I install the audigy, 4 red lights.
So, This time instead of turning the puter off by using the button on ps. I used the button on the case by holding it down for 5 seconds. I reboot and puter boots normally.
So the problem is, if i turn the puter off by using the button on the PS and with audigy in the syste. Nothing on screen, and puter keeps rebooting itself every one second. Solution is to turn the puter off by using the button on the case.
Has anyone ran into this problem? I have never had this kind of problem. It is really weird. Any feedback is apreciated.
Oh and it is only with audigy. I tested this with original live, and also other PCI cards like nic, and another cheap sound card. Non of these cards showed this problem.

Cavemankr!
I never knew you could shut down the computer by holding down the start button for 5 seconds.... well I've never really had the need to...until I got this K8T Neo job. I wondered why it wouldn't turn off when I just pushed it. I've been using the PSU switch with these problems.
Yep! She booted right up. Audigy back in action. I also realized I had my PC hooked straight in the wall (while checking to see if my surge protector was working this weekend), so turning off the surge protector wasn't cutting power to the cheapo PSU.
So put me in your camp!
I'll just plug the PC straight into the UPS and keep power fed to the Enermax. I hope that was the cause of my keyboard/mouse cold boot problem also.
I'll assume the cheapo PSU will behave similarly. I don't really want to go through the swap again.
I wonder why that happens!
Buddy
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K8N Neo Platinum - Reboot problems

This is very strange.......
Just bare with me as I try to explain.
I just orderd a new system to build from scratch and all seemed to go ok.
I have:
Motherboard: K8N Neo Platinum
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 - 2800+
VIDEO: ATI Radeon 9600XT - 128 MB
RAM: 1GB DDR PC2700 CL2.5 - SAMSUNG - 1 Stick
SOUND: I also have an old PCI sound card in there.
HD: none connected currently
CASE: XG Viper Gaming Case
On my first boot everything seemed to go ok. I saw the post screen. The CPU, the Memory were all recognized the only thing is I don't have a HD in it right now so there was no OS to boot. I went into BIOS and double checked the settings. I noticed the RT clock was off slightly so I changed it. Looked around and made sure the AGP port was selected as my primary video adapter. Besides that I didn't change any other settings.
When I saved the BIOS settings and the computer did an automatic reboot I got nothing except a repeating "BEEP" and a black screen.
I waited a few seconds (around 20) then turned the computer on and it started up fine again. This time I didn't go into BIOS just let it boot up to the point where it said INVALID system disk. I did a reboot with the same problem - a repeating "BEEP" and a black screen.
A warm reboot doesn't do anything - It only comes back up with a black screen and the repeating beeps. Also If I power down and up too quick I also get no other effect than the black screen and repeating beeps.
The only way to get the post screen is to let it sit around 20 seconds and boot up.
Even If I let it sit over night, boot it up, see the post, and reboot 2 seconds after I get the post screen, the black screen and the beeping occurs (so I am not too sure its a CPU heat issue).
also on a side note the DBracket has some strange lights on it. - IF I am looking at the Dbracket from the right orientation - I think it is giving a "Initalizing Keyboard Controller" error when I get the black screen. It is either that or the Video Interface error. - 3 RED LIGHTS and 1 GREEN LIGHT.
Any sugestions or help would be GREATLY APPRECIATED !!!
Thank you !!!!!!

OK - I pulled out the 9600XT and put in a 9000 saphire radeon card with the same effects.....
when I pull out the Video card and the memory I get the same black screen and error code of course...
second - I put the memory in and left the video card out only and got a signle long beep.. then no additional beeps after that but of course no video...
third - I put in the video card (the 9600 XT) and left the memory out and got the identical black screen and repeating long beeps.
last - I put the memory back in.. booted up fine... then tried to reboot and I was back to the black screen with multiple long beeps..
one interesting thing that I learned from this was - when there was no memory in I got the same "beeps" as I do when I try to reboot with the memory in... could it be something to do with the memory?.... or is it still leaning toward a PSU problem..
(Unfortunatly I don't have access to another stick of memory right now,... nor a sufficient PSU for the system...)
HELP !!!!

K8N Neo 2 - Same problems after 3 motherboards!

I'm having serious problems here...please help
I bought the K8N Neo 2 and keep having the same problems over and over. I'll build the computer and everything will be running fine, no problems with POST or anything. It'll run great for a day or two then....I'll go to power it on the next day and it'll start up, then suddently turn off and won't boot up ever again. This has happend 3 times with this board after I've returned and RMA'd the previous 2.
But, today I found a work around. What I did since it wasn't booting up was remove the power connector from the board, then hold the power button down and replug the power connector back in. It then powers up fine, but I have to hit the power button again in order for it to boot. If I turn the computer off it won't boot up normally again. I can't imagine having to do this everytime to turn the damn thing on.
Here are my specs:
MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum
Athlon 64 3000
2 x 512 Corsair Value Select
Antec True 380w +5V 35a +12V 24a +3.3 28a
XFX 6600GT
NEC DVDR 2500A
WD Raptor 74gig
WD 80gig SE
I can't think of what's causing the same problem over and over again. This is by far the most frustrating motherboard I've ever worked with. Am I screwed with the board that I have now, or should I return it again...
Please help!

Checking your P/S is always a good idea. But I can tell you that the power on/off functions of the K8N Neo2 Platinum are whacked. I just installed my new K8N Neo2 and the motherboard refuses to power down from either windows or the front power switch after it is turned on. This is the first MSI m/b I've owned that exihibits this behavior. Have done many custom builds for customers using MSI boards - clear back to the K7 series. My normal install procedure is to install m/b, all drives, memory, video card and connect power. Immediately after I power the system "on" and check for fan operation and d-bracket error codes. If all comes out ok, I power the board down (via the front panel switch). OOPs, guess what, couldn't do that on this new m/b. I should have known it was a problem right then. Instead, went ahead and installed XP Pro, problem persist even yet. Press the front power switch or soft exit from Windows, Windows shuts down, but motherboard doesn't. Fans, video card, even hard drives keep powered up

K8N Neo Platinum Weird Problem

Hi.I just got the motherboard yesterday. The spec is:
Athlon 64 3200+
K8N Neo Platinum
512MB Crucial DDR 266
Enermax 350Watt PSU
Now my problem is an odd one. I start up my PC, and everything is fine, XP boots etc. However. when I turn the computer off, the power light will have a flash at the front, the light stays solid for a few seconds, disappears, and comes back on. In this state, when the power switch is pressed, the computer does not come on and the light continutes to blink. The only option is to turn off the PSU, wait a minute, then turn the PSU back on and the PC will be fine. When I restart from windows (Start--> Restart), everything works fine.
I am using the latest BIOS, I was thinking that it maybe something to do with Power Saving, is there a way to totally disable it?
Thanks for your help, it's REALLY annoying me.
P.S. Are USB keyboards meant to work with the latest BIOS? Mine doesnt seem to want to.

hi edjam,
welcome to forum.
1) Quote
that it maybe something to do with Power Saving
your right it does
1-1)1st look at control panel - Power Options - Advanced tab - Power buttons at bottom. check what set there.
1-2) When your computer does this try keeping the powerr switch pressed in for a time 4-5 seconds see if this makes any difference.
1-3) Check in bios - Power Management - Power button - that it is set to power off
2)Quote
USB keyboards meant to work with the latest BIOS?
I believe so
Enter Bios & check in onboard Device USB Mouse Support is enabled

MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition PROBLEM

Hi (my english is not good sorry for that)
I just got my new computer:
MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition
AMD Athlon64 3200+
Western Digital Caviar 160Gb
PNY Verto GeForce 6800Ultra 256Mb
1GB Value Select pc3200
Levicom 500W
The Problem is that when i start the computer, it boot and die directly no bootscreen what so ever, it boot and die. i dont know what to do plz help me

Make sure you have Both the ATX Wires on.. theres the Big one! (21Pins i think).. and the Small 4Pin Connector both need to be connected.. if you havent done so yet.. Another thing you could do is Take everything out and place it on a cardboard or something appropriate for the mobo.... I think your motherboard is shorting?.. if it's touching your case.. I had somewhat the same issue long time ago.. give it a try..if you want hope it helps..

K8n Neo & 6800 GT Problem

I've been getting waterfalls in the screen when I load windows. I also see artifacts in the bios setup menu. Sometimes the picture goes out completely and then a few seconds later it will come back on. The card fails completely under 3dmark 03. Everything in this machine is brand new. I've replaced the video card three times now and I still have the exact same problem. I've used a geforce 5700 with no problems. I've also been in contact with BFG and they said the problem is with the mainboard. Any ideas?
K8N neo Plat Bios 1.3
AMD 64 3200+ (Newcastle)
2x Mushkin 512mb PC3200
Robanton 600w 3.3v/40a 5v/60a 12v/25a
BFG 6800 GT OC
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm Sata
Lite-on DVD-+RW 8X
Lite-on DVD-ROM 16x
Windows XP SP1

I have same card and mine runs great with the exception of 3dmark2003 build340.
Crashes to desktop everytime on me also. I upped my AGP voltage to 1.60 when I got the card and that stoped the game crashes I was getting sometimes.
I see you have a 600watt Robanton, not sure how good of quality those are, but the 6800 GT along with amd64 sucks some power on the +12V rail.
I would say RMA board if your power supply is up to the task and other video cards do the same thing.
good luck

MSI k8n neo platinum post problem

I just bought a 2nd hand K8N neo platinum and I can't get it to post, I have reduced down to 1 stick of ram(tried all slots) vga and cpu running out of case. I have an ultra 600 psu that certainly should be doing the buisness as everything was fine on an NF7S-V2 up until 1/2 hour prior.
On the led device it's starting 4 red then after a couple of seconds it goes 1 red 2 red 3 green 4 red which I found relates to keyboard controller. I've tried with various keyboards but no joy. I get nothing on the screen at all but that's the next stage in post.
My memory is Twinmos 3200 twin x 2 x 512 double sided, which I saw in the sticky can be troublesome.
Any body got any ideas?

i am having an almost identical problem.
First the system wont go past post,then i realised it would but only boot if i had the USB mouse unplugged (i noticed the d-brackets lights changed after i unplugged the mouse)
then i was able to get to windows, however i couldn't do much (mouse wouldnt detect if replugged, keyboard not detected - all lights off)
So i tried clearing the CMOS
now i am having the same problem, except this time i get CMOS checksum error - defaults loaded
then it tells me to press f1 to continue to del to enter setup, which i cant do since the keyboard wont work. so now im totally bamboozled
I've tried changing the PSU as well with no luck (both were 500watts)
Funny thing is, the pc having the problem is identical to the pc im writing on now, presonally i think the motherboard is not v good, since alot of people have this problem or similar to it. (and yes im using the keyboard and mouse now, that i tested on the other pc)
SPECS:
MSI k8N Neo Platinum
Powercolor Radeon 9800 Pro
AMD 64 3000+
1GB Geil Memory
Maxtor 160GB
500watt Magna Dual Fans
Will check what the D-bracket says and will report back.
ok here goes:
(with usb mouse plugged in)
1= green
2= red
3=red
4=green
(without usb mouse plugged in) - but bare in mind i cant press f1 (no keyboard) to continue else i would probably be able to get to windows.
1= green
2= green
3=green
4=red

K8N Neo Platinum reboot problem

ok, spec:
MSI K8N Neo Platinum mobo
A64 - 3000+
2 corsair 2700 256Mb in slots 1 and 2 - 1 unbranded 2700 in slot 3 (all memory double sided)
Powercolor ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
SATA WD Raptor 74Gb
EIDE 8x Hitachi DVD-ROM drive
550W PSU - "Channel Well technology" - 24a@12v 40a@5v [email protected]
that's it. it posts ok, has frozen there once tho. but every time since then post is ok. Installed WinXP fine - until the install process tried to reboot into WinXP proper - where it continually reset itself until eventually it got in - and reported it had rescued itself from a serious error - I can sit in windows seemingly indefinitely - using the hard-drive to browse through the windows installation. now the problem is when I instert a disc into the dvd drive the computer tries to read it - little disc icon on the arrow etc. then it hangs and the computer resets.... any ideas?? the computer shop I got the PSU from says my configuration is "categorically" not using 550W of power - what do you guys think?
thanks for any help, cheers
Niall

Quote
mobo drivers -> SP2 -> graphics card -> Dx9
Wrong order s/be
Sp2 (includes Dx9)
Mobo Drivers
graphics card
Dx9 needs to be installed prior to the mobo drivers.
This applies to the Gart (Agp Controller)
If you haven't done so downloadWindows XP - Unified Driver Version: 5.10 & install.
Device Manager System Devices note the AGP Host to PCI Bridge Device this is the Gart driver
you should see a diff in graphics performance

K8N Neo Platinum 7030 Problem

I have a K8N Neo Platinum and as of the past week my computer has been acting really strange. I has had random lockups that at first made me think it was the video card. That wasn't the case. I tried a different power supply and that didnt help. So I decided to take everything out of my computer. I had everything unplugged from the motherboard power, ide cables, etc. I noticed as I was taking everything out that I felt like I was getting shocked by my case but I don't know how because I had no power supply in my computer and all the cards, processor, memory were taken out. When I took the mb out i didn't feel the shock anymore, but when I put the mb back in the case and hooked the power supply back up to it I did. I even vacuumed out the case totally removing all dust and dirt. Am I missing something here? HELP lol

thanks for replying glenn after 2 days of hunting i can now say
90% sure the whining is from the powersupply
using my advanced hearing device i found a flaw in its design. before i would put it near psu but not hear the whine from there. well it occured to me to tilt it ever so slightly (tip from radio broacasting in college) to let the noise in but block any wind from crossing the end of my tube. and ch ching finally from the rear of the psu is where it is loudest.
ive owned 3 enermax and theyve been the best psu ive ever owned. but this weekend im swap it with my other and see if it still happens. it will probably take 2 hours total do it which is why ive put it off this long. ive tried bumping the wires around even though its a full size chieftech with all my watercooling gear its almost impossible to not have the wires overlap each other at least a few times. but with the moving around i did do it didnt help.

MSI K8N Neo 2 Multiplier Problems

Check this out:
Sudhian has found problems with the MSI K8N Neo 2 clock settings that have caused memory problems for them.
http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=616

this has already been shot down..
Upsetting information

K8N Neo 2 Platinum Problem!When rising to 210fsb restarting,etc...

I have a big problem which makes me angry...Actually there exist some problems,but I only write two of them...Firstly,when i try to overclock as rising fsb to only 210, system restarts and resarts again and again;only when I return to default value,system works.It is just a one example to show us that mobo does not work well.Secondly,about the temperature,there is a problem.System sometimes opens with 37degree,sometimes with 43 degree;sometimes rises to 55 and 62,sometimes stops at 47-48.These are not only from idle temperature but also load.Which makes me angry,temperature is 55 degree at idle;and sometimes at load it is 49 etc..I tried my CPU and fan,ram modules etc.,on MSI Neo 4 SLI mobo,and there didnot happen any problem,involving these two.So,I think they are not normal,what should I do?
My system:AMD 64 939 3200+ CPU,MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum,MSI NX6800 VGA,2*512 ddr400 Hynix d43 ram,80GB Seagate SATA etc...

I did it;that is to say i know that i have to lower HT and i did.In detail,ram timings were 3-4-4-6 and 1T.I disabled D.O.T,Spread spectrum,Agrassive timings,high performance mode was manuel etc..So everything was suitable for o\c.Also I disabled Sata1-2,and connected to Sata 3 port.AGP frequency was 67,cool and quiet was disabled.HT was 4,I adjusted CPU ratio to *10 and I rised CPU frequency only to 210.So,everything was as which had to be,but system restarting again and again,works only if i return to 200 fsb...I am sure that the problem is arisng from mobo,because I tested my configuration on different systems.For example,I tried my CPU and ram modules on MSI K8N Neo 4 SLI mobo and there did not happen any problem,I was able to rich 2500mhz with HT4,250fsb*10.Temperature was accurate also.What can I do?If
I cannot o\c my system it is unsense to have this configuration and this mobo.I think,if i bring my mobo to service of MSI,they will say it is not our problem,as you know they don't accept o\c problems.I also think that they have to explain something to me as their D.O.T. technology supposed to work at %11 o\c.Please,someone say something to me and give me an advice.

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